This is a first world problem and I acknowledge that but I just wanted to vent.

Honestly, I love neutrals however I also love experimenting with my makeup. I love innovation in formula and different colours and finishes. There are many brands that are well established that are suitable for the everyday person: Makeup by Mario, Huda Beauty, Rhode, Anastasia Beverley Hills, Kosas, Bobbi Brown, Laura Mercier, YSL, Dior plus a plethora of drugstore options. I use these brands often.

What I’m honestly sick of is the few ‘mainstream’ artistry and edgy brands constantly being sanitised. This happened with Pat McGrath, Isamaya, Urban Decay, Mac, Makeup Forever etc… Now some of these brands are attempting to reintroduce their more editorial side however this is after years of being neutered.

I’m kind of annoyed and having this epiphany after the Danessa Myricks Lightwork viii reveal. I get that lots of people love it because it’s more ‘wearable’ and you can get a complete look out of it with the addition of matte shades. However, the original concept of the lightwork eyeshadow palettes (excluding the two highlighter palettes) was to be a palette full of expensive to formulate special shades. This justified the high price point at the time, yet the newest palette has the highest price point ever.

It was to be used in conjunction with your other palettes, maybe even the Groundwork palette which already filled the neutral matte gap in Danessa’s brand. Plus there are already multiple palettes by Natasha Denona, Huda etc… which fill the gap of neutral with mattes and a few fun textures. I already noticed a shift happening in Danessa’s brand when the colorfix range was reworked, yes there’s still some fun shades but it’s nowhere near as diverse as it was. I wouldn’t be surprised if the brand ends up stagnating eventually.

Now I know some people might tell me to go to indie brands for artistry but that’s not the discussion here, also accessibility to a product is a factor. Furthermore, if history has proven anything when indie brands eventually end up becoming popular enough to end up in Sephora the same thing will happen when people demand ‘wearability’. Not every brand is going to be for everyone and ‘wearability’ is different for everyone. I just don’t understand why some people demand everyday corporate makeup from brands that already established that they’re a different vibe.

TLDR: Too many artistry and experimental makeup brands have been sanitised by people demanding ‘wearability’ from them. There’s already a plethora of ‘wearable’ brands how many more do we need?

So many beauty gurus no longer have videos they made when they first started YouTube available to watch. Which is a pity because many of them were entertaining to watch. If you’ve been watching some of these beauty gurus channels long enough than you might remember that there channel used to have more videos available. For example Anna Newton, Jenny Mustard, I believe Grace Victory did as well years ago until she got rid of so many. Her channel is different now. Allison Anderson, who also rebranded her channel. Jennifer Wan, I remember seeing her old beauty videos that are no longer available on YouTube. If there is anyone else please feel free to say so in the comments.

I seriously cannot stand how every sentence sounds like a question and once I hear it I cannot unhear it. Saying farewell to Allie Glines today. She had some good (sometimes boring) relaxing content but I couldn’t make it through the latest video. When and why did this become a thing??

Hopefully this is in the right place, but I’m trying to track down an influencer I used to watch on Instagram: she was a young lady, 19-23 ish, Muslim, very slim, light-medium skintone with hazel/green eyes and very sleek, straight brown hair. Killer cheekbones. She was always running late for some event, occasionally she would do her mum’s makeup and take her to events as her plus one. May be Canadian. May have a cat.

I feel like I’ve hallucinated her up at this point!

Thanks in advance for any help 🙏

Disclaimer - I've followed them for years and do generally like them. There are Remedy products that are part of my regular routine. I think on the spectrum of healthcare professional influencers they're still more practicing clinicians than they are influencers, which I respect.

Other caveat - Please don't respond to this by just going "Well they're influencers so all they wanna do is make money and take sponsorship." I get that that's a nice way to feel like you've won an argument but it's such an uninteresting response from an intellectual standpoint IMO.

Anyone else feeling like Doctorly's content has gotten kind of stale/repetitive recently?

It was shortlived but I LOVED their podcast and the way they were able to talk about things like Medicare reimbursement rates and the utility of iPLEDGE for accutane in depth. I generally found them to be pretty good about sticking to the data with their recommendations and not buying into the next new thing.

Their most recent video was a "Save or Splurge?" video and while they had an older video on it and discussed it in their podcast, I feel like this concept has been beaten to death by them and other influencers. Only to then see that it's a Yesstyle sponsorship video, and this was a way for them to showcase those products.

I don't have an issue with sponsorships, but when it feels like videos are purely being made to showcase sponsorships and the substance of the video comes second it feels a little less genuine.

A couple videos ago was "Best ingredient combos" which, again, I just feel like is a topic that's been discussed by them and others countless times before. They did this one video that was reacting to those shitty AI animations of skincare tips, which in terms of the substance offered was just "Yeah that's what niacinamide does" or "No that's not how vitamin c works," all while giving more credence to AI than it deserves even with their "disclaimers" to not support AI.

I get that science is what it is and it's been decades and tretinoin is still the gold standard for most things, but I also don't know if they've ever been on a consistent posting schedule? It feels weird to upload for what seems like the sake of uploading and/or to share a sponsorship.

They recently did a sponsorship for Whoop which I find really troubling since it is like the textbook definition of a venture capital wellness company that makes people take tests "normal doctors wont order" that have no clinical validation so that inevitably there are abnormalities that prompt further treatment even when asymptomatic otherwise. There's a good chunk of healthcare influencers like Jen Gunter and Dr. Mike who have spoken about the problems with these kinds of services. So them taking this sponsorship and touting it like it's some special insight into health that people should pay for feels really below their usual standard.

There have also been some times I think they go outside of their expertise when it comes to nutrition. Saying things like "Sugar contributes to acne" when there have been no reliable studies that have shown anything more than correlation. Or the one that really killed me was this whackadoo diagram they included in one of their videos with absolutely no citation demosntrating how "suger" leads to "free redicals" and "diabetic complicaitons."

I assume they just plucked it out of Google images but it really doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in the research that went into that video or others. I also think it's really iffy for a medical professional to be suggesting that X leads to cancer without a huge amount of context and qualifiers.

Again, I'm not saying they're bad people, but it feels like there's been significantly less rigor when it comes to the claims they're willing to make, and lower standards for the kind of sponsorships they're taking.

I’m a little surprised no one has posted this yet. This IG post from her is a little cryptic and I’m not surprised that she’s been gone from the brand since it really has declined once they entered Sephora and sterilized the branding. I absolutely loved her palettes and lippies from the brand but the rebrand really suffered here. On top of that, her archive collection is constantly 70% off and they’re having major logistical and operational issues. I’m curious as to why she waited so long to announce this when she supposedly left in 2025? Like why not announce it beforehand when it was more recent?

Does anyone know if Andrea Matillano okay? She hasn’t posted on YT or IG for over a month, which is very unusual.

https://www.brightonco.gov/m/newsflash/Home/Detail/2942

Allegedly in July, Cydnee Black, 34, shot a male, 24, in Colorado. this was in July. No other info online. No mugshots, no court docs, no jail record.

Why does she speak so strongly about Patrick Ta? He's known for disrespecting and ripping off non-white women. Am I supposed to believe that Monica doesn't know about his behavior with Avonna Sunshine, or him trying to squash Painted by Esther?

Patrick could not care less about Monica as an Indian American woman. And there's no way his products are so revolutionary that Monica just loves them sooooo much 🙄

I actually really like Monica's recommendations. I've found a lot of affordable makeup favorites through her. I'm not subscribed because I don't purchase makeup often and because her videos give me a headache with how much she's constantly moving and adding in edits but I'm pretty sure her last several videos have her raving about Patrick ta of all people.

It's actually enough to make me not want to watch her anymore. I'm not perfect by any means and I could definitely have some problematic brands in my makeup bag but I try to stay on top of it. But Monica? Girl your JOB is to know about this stuff!

And while I'm at it, what's with that one brand who invited her to their influencer party or something and then didn't have her foundation shade and tried to give her excuses about it? She's been so accommodating to them. If I were her, I would never. She already has foundation shades that match from other brands! That brand gave hella excuses and she accepted them instead of telling them to do better...?

Who is Jackie aina talking about in this TikTok

Glisten Cosmetics.
Wicked Sisters.
Jolie.
Question Beauty.

I mainly fell in love with these brands because their lip products are so innovative and beautiful to me. I’m looking to venture out when it comes to lip colors/finishes. I want more glitter on my lips. I want to wear blues, grays, greens, and all the fashion colors.

These brands are completely new to me. But, they have been popping up in my feed for a while now. They look great. But, I fear that they’re dropshipping white labels.

Are they?

Thank You & Have a Nice Day!!!!!

I recently stumbled upon this podcast and I’ve been really enjoying it. Each episode delves into the history and background of a different brand. I’ve started listening from the beginning and I’m currently at episode seven. It’s incredibly interesting, clearly researched and well-structured.

- Do you enjoy listening to similar podcasts reports or articles?
- If so, which are your favourite reporters, beauty editors and creators?
- Have you listened to this podcast?

I’ve discovered several other enjoyable podcasts / YouTubers so far, and this one is my latest find!

I feel like it’s the same kind of rankings and recommendations over and over, and a lot of them seem very specific to his own skin type.

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I've been watching a declutter series of a smaller creator (~15k subs) I've been watching for a number of years. In declutters she used to sometimes mention passing eyeshadow palettes, lipsticks etc to her daughter as kind of play makeup, and when her daughter was like 4 or 5 it sounded kind of cute. But in her latest series she's mentioned decluttering dozens of products to her daughter, many of them not really colour cosmetics, also often remarking things like "my daughter loves the makeup by mario powders", "my daughter uses the nose contour from this brand", "my daughter loves the rare beauty blushes" etc. It seems like her 11 year old daughter is now rocking a full beat of makeup. I don't want to share the name as I'm not sure if I'm just being really judgemental, but is it normal for an 11 year old girl to be contouring her nose?

Part of me also wonders if decluttering it to her daughter is a way that she tells herself she has decluttered it, but it's now just in a different room in the house so she can still use it any time she wants, but she feels better about having "less makeup".

I've heard that the new rhode blush is called "petal" and Hailey made a video a few weeks ago saying she was doing a pointe (ballet) shoot for rhode .... Ariana has also been teasing a lot of ballet vibe things esp w REM. They both shout each others products out in their promo videos. Do we think this is a possibility?

Anybody else think it’s crazy to see Tati Westbrook on TikTok live selling handbags, sweaters, and energy drinks? It feels like such a steep fall from being a beloved makeup YTer. I’m just so shocked. She always made it seem like she was well endowed and the TikTok thing feels so cheap…

Jessica Braun straight up lied in her latest vlog. She has a mattress sponsor and said their mattress is almost 10 years old. NOPE. Her vlog from summer of 2022 shows them getting a brand new KING mattress for their room. That mattress is 4 years old! I can put up with boring repetitive content but boldface lies is where I draw the line.

hey everyone! i've been following naomi since 2021 maybe, i know it's not as long as many people have here but I'd still like to talk about this with someone (:

lately i've had the impression she only cares about her music career which fair, it's her hobby as she said, but her youtube videos have become so full of overconsumerism and just random bullshit it feels she only posts to promote her music in between the videos, does anyone feel that way too??

and lately she's become so cringe in that quirky millennial humor way though she swears up and down she's gen z (which being born in 96 i guess is true, but her humor and mannerism clearly arent?? and shes lived the whole beauty guru era AS a guru, which ive always thought as more of a peak millennial era thing. not that there's anything wrong with millennials ofc, it's just that she treats it as itd be so embarrassing to be one bc of the stereotypes but she literally acts like it????😭)

one thing i really cant stand is the way she constantly moans and makes sexual references lately, like i get it's supposed to be funny but it's just really really uncomfortable and ive seen many people talk about it. also how she keeps supporting fast fashion even though so so so many people literally tell her they hate that type of content, many of her video's comment section is FULL of people asking her to buy from sustainable brands and she just doesn't gaf.

there's so much weird stuff going on with her content lately i dont even remember everything i wanted to talk about bro idk

i just don't think the music she makes is worth fucking up her whole youtube career😭 it's the same basic hyperpop y2k hello kitty tiktok trend music every wannabe popstar makes nowdays idk

has anyone noticed it too?? im sorry if i came off as offensive but it just really bothers me bc i used to LOVE her videos and now she just turned into another out of touch influencer