Alternate PvE Proposal: Temporary Ceasefire map condition (see caption for details and reasoning)

[u/travhimself]

THE IDEA

Create a Temporary Ceasefire major map condition. Put it in the rotation with other major map events. Keep the loot super limited: no items beyond blue (rare) quality. Increase the arc presence. You can do your quests and hunt arc, but you can't gain a big power advantage.

THE REASONING

Why this, instead of an always-available PvE mode? Low-risk raiding should be a reprieve; a small treat. Not the standard.

If you remove most of the risk, you remove most of the reward. The danger is the whole point in a game like this.

Without danger, we lose lose the serendipity. You don't need to make friends or find out who people are and what they're up to. You don't have the little moments like accidentally shooting someone and then trying to make it up to them. Or the dilemma of deciding whether to defib a stranger who could be an adversary.

PvE also removes a lot of hard and soft gaming skills. I don't have to mind my aim in order to stay friendly. I don't have to say "Hey I'm friendly, what's up dude." There's no more flashlight friend-or-foe indicator. The sound of a powerful weapon no longer gets my hackles up. I don't need to listen for footsteps.

Lastly, open PvE could wreck the economy. You shouldn't be able to free-farm materials.

Adaptive matchmaking works. If you've earned your way deep into the friendly ranks, you can play all evening without getting shot at. This should suffice for most dads and uncles. But the risk is always there in the back of your mind.

And for those that need a boost now and then, we have a rotating Temporary Ceasefire map condition.

[u/Red_Wizard_of_Redit]

I think the current system works well enough. If you want high end stuff from map conditions like night raids or hurricane the you have to be PvPvE.

The toggle lets people choose how they want to play and has no impact on others.

[u/Alarmed-Lock7774 → u/Red_Wizard_of_Redit]

Bull****. I hate PvE only and I jumped into a few games today and I got sh ton of loot. Didn’t even use any keys or anything and every raid I came out with 150k+. It’s pointless. Just go back to the roots. Remove ABMM, remove PvE and introduce this instead for all the PvE players.

What made this game fascinating in the beginning was the tension, the adrenaline, the fact that when you saw someone you didn’t know if they were friendly or not, the interactions etc. Now it’s either this or that. This is coming from someone who spent 1200 hours in this game

[u/Void-kun → u/Alarmed-Lock7774]

Okay buddy but not everybody shares your opinion.

Not everybody finds the exact same things fun that you do, it's subjective.

If you hate PVE only, then don't play it. Simple.

[u/Macro_Hard_On_Fire → u/Void-kun]

Then those people shouldn't be buying PvPvE-games: it's part of the DNA of these games.

There are enough other coop games that you can play instead, instead of whining to get this game ruined and catering to your own needs.

[u/Desperate-Grab9869 → u/Macro_Hard_On_Fire]

Ya, and now they added a PVE mode, temporarily at least.

People went to play something else. A player not playing Arc Raiders is a player who will never spend money on Arc Raiders. Embark didn't like that. So they're trying something to bring new players in and old players back.

The game was advertised as PVPVE. It still has PVPVE. Now it also has PVE. Not because redditors complained so hard it molded the game's code, but because Embark decided to. Do you want the players who joined the game now advertising a PVE mode (temporarily) to quit because they don't want to play the mode you originally bought thr game for?

[u/WallProfessional3914 → u/Macro_Hard_On_Fire]

YOU DONT HAVE TO PLAY PVE jeez you people are fucking dense

[u/based_prettyawsm → u/Macro_Hard_On_Fire]

Surely a lil bro must tell me how do I spend my money and how do I play the game. You do realise you can just stfu and play your own pvp. Its wild how many degenerates are out there apparently since the toggle was introduced 🤣

[u/SJBSam → u/Void-kun]

You bought a PVPVE game. What did you expect??

[u/Void-kun → u/SJBSam]

Played it and thought "hmm this game would be great if it had a PVE mode"

I thought the Arc added enough tension to the game without the PVP.

Not everybody is a try-hard sweat who wants their butthole clenched 24/7, some of us are older and want to play more casually.

Sorry, that we want space for both of us to have fun.

[u/KannTheGunn → u/Void-kun]

Buys a PvEvP game

Also, complains there is no PvE mode.

Lol.

[u/Void-kun → u/KannTheGunn]

Where did I complain there was no PVE mode?

I thought I would enjoy the game more if it had a PVE mode and stopped playing?

Now the news that PVE mode is coming I'm coming back and excited to play.

[u/Red_Wizard_of_Redit → u/Alarmed-Lock7774]

Cool, I’m gonna go back to having fun playing duos with my wife fighting arc. Good luck mr1200 hour lmao I’m sure you’ll find satisfaction one day.

[u/Macro_Hard_On_Fire → u/Red_Wizard_of_Redit]

Same for your wife: maybe one day she'll find satisfaction too...

[u/zeitwerkz → u/Alarmed-Lock7774]

nah