While doing a casual trans 4 I heard a rumbling enter my group. This legendary creature came and said "Assassins are not trash" he then proceeded to solo devour Everything in Deus Research Base It was a site to behold.

He also had Bis sync stats on every gear. Any know know what would be the estimate spent for something like this?

As you can see from the attached image, I have run Fire Temple for my whole free-time, 3 days consecutively, and I have received almost every weapon from the other classes but mine own (Cleric).

The game is addictive and fun in some ways, and the visuals are top tier. I'm in love with my Kromede Wings. However, this feels like a punch in the face. Can't justify this sort of carrot-on-a-stick RNG. This system isn't it. I don't even care that I am 2 runs away from my 3rd pity ticket (LMAO). I should've been given an exchange token at 2-3 weapons if fun was the direct objective of the company in their "flagship game". Layers upon layers built to keep you like a monkey on a treadmill. It was fun while it lasted.

Good luck to everybody chasing CP or whatever and my condolences to those who rolled assassin!

Ok look, the game looks great, the cosmetics are awesome. No complaints there.

But why have so great outfits and such a restrictive system around it??

1. THREE outfit presets???

You have all these different types of clothing to mix/match and only THREE outfit presets?

Are you kidding me?

I need like 300 thanks.

2. Dying an outfit

This is such a shitty system.

When I pay money to Dye an outfit to a color I should OWN that color.

I should be able to save presets with the same outfit piece dyed different colors and switch between them at will.

Not to mention it's so expensive to Dye ONE piece of an outfit.

I shouldn't have to get a COPY of the same outfit just because I want to use the same outfit in a different color. Or am I understanding the system wrong?

3. Character Customization

You guys need to sell some sort of 'infinite use' character customization coupon or sth.

In Black Desert Online this was part of the paid monthly sub.

It should be like that here too.

You have such a great character customization system and it's so expensive to use it it's a waste.

Thanks for reading my gooner rant.

Now just give us a bulge slider, cowards.

TL;DR:

Im a 2,2k/100k sin player.
I get rejected from every meta group. See a tank alone in a group called „90k :handslop:“. Decide to apply, group fills instantly with 90k players including 1 chanter(no cleric). Die 12 ish times, but we clear without getting timer on kromede. Get excited, feeling the MMO experience and sense of progression. We reclear 6 more times. I don’t die a single time the last 2 runs. Game is cool, stop gatekeeping.

Edit: Included no cleric in the party description

Long Version/Rant:
I have 2.2k GS/100kCP and can’t find a group for Fire Temple with a tank and healer.

The people gatekeeping

I talked to a person I know irl. He is a mega elitist. 105kCP Spiritmaster. We talked and he said that he won’t take any assassins into fire temple anymore, because they always die and do no dmg. Also he won’t go with anyone beneath 105k(a mate of mine is 95k), because it’s impossible.

We already tried once as a trio with tank and healer and couldn’t beat the timer.

He said I was dying to often as well - objectively less than he did on Kromede - which is funny because all I knew about the dungeon to this point was a 6 minute guide.

Let’s not be mean, this is like gym influencers on social media giving you the sense that a fully build 6 pack, 150kg bench/200kg deadlift body is something the average Joe can do. It’s just another distorted image of reality.

I’m a Mythic raider from wow, for me this is just one of those Heroic Hero’s, that clear the first 2 Bosses mythic 2 months into the ID after getting every Heroic piece and then think they are a good player.

How I found a group

I have 3 hours max a day to play during work days, that is only because I cut my sleep down to 5/6 hours so I can spend time with my wife and play after.
This is why I refuse to look for a meta group for an hour that leaves after failing one time. If I even get invited once.

So being on my 2.2k/100kCP I start looking.
I see this Templar who made the group 90k :handslop: and think to myself… why not?
The group fills instantly with a mage and another sin being 90k. I don’t mind, that’s the spirit of the group. We look a bit longer, after a chanter joins we instantly go. I was confused first but I went with it. There was no heals and the Templar didn’t give any shields in meaningful moments, but we just grinded. Probably died 3-4 times on the first 2 bosses and then easy 8 times at kromede… but we killed her first try.

We decided to keep going, learned the timings and I eventually had 2 runs without dying a single time. The guy from earlier triggered me to go full sweat mode.

That was the most amazing feeling I had in gaming for a long time, people who have done anything like raid progression know.

I understand you want a smooth clear asking for the 110k players, but I can tell you the moment you hit a whale that can only Makro his credit card into the shop, you wish you had on of those 90k people that are ready to grind it out.

If you made it all the way down this post… then you should probably start working, It’s 7:30am over here! Tf you doing reading this post?

Got every single piece from the shop over the last week checking on all my characters, worth.

Edit: This set is from fire temple conquest if you’re trying to get it natty. To access the shop hit H and it’s in the top left, each characters shop has different chances at loot.

It is never explained in game in an obvious way and it will result in around 50% dps increase.

I play with a damage meter and even in T3 dungeons I see pure dmg classes with so little dps that it is shocking they even got so far. I have also talked with legion members and friends and some of them never realized that you can press both buttons at the same time - even up until 2200+GS.

I mean it doesn't even make sense to have a builder/spender system and then give players the ability to do both at the same time - so I don't blame anyone for not knowing/trying this.

The way I understand how it works is that you can constantly hold down your left mouse button to do you builder/auto attack. Every other skill you then repeatedly press (or hold down with the help of the macro function) will animation cancel the auto attack, which is displayed by like a shadowy figure performing the rest of the animation for your character. You get all the benefit of the builder without loosing very much time to perform your other abilities.

This pretty much solves mana problems for all of the classes and thus results in much, much higher dps. It also frees up brainpower to play the mechanics cleaner.

If you haven't already, don't forget to bind your macro button in your settings to right mouse button or any other key you prefer. Then set up your macro in your skills tab. It will use the skills in the designated column(s) with priority from bottom to top. If you want to finetune, just look up a macro guide for you class. There are many different opinions on what is best to optimize this feature, but honestly just using one vs not doing so is the biggest change of all.

GL Daevas!

Srsly why is this game so good?

The combat feels really good and the classes are all so fun. I made 4 characters to 1400 iLvl because I cant decide what to miss out. Chanter and Spiritmaster are also interesting but didnt find a spot on my roster. Sorc and Templar are my mains. Ranger and Ceric are my sidepieces. Damn does playing Dungeons on them feel fun. Templar truely feels like a Gunlancer, Sorc does so much Damage, Ranger is so mobile and with Cleric you have good control over the healthbars of your party on top of dealing awesome damage. Part if me regrets making 4 chars, I know I wouldnt feel burned out with 3, but arrows flying so fast is fun.

Then there is not only dungeons, but so much more content, you can grind pets, abyss points, do solo dungeons like daily dungeon or nightmare, then there is Shugo Events and half hour events and World Bosses, PvP Arena Events.

Shugos are also fun and cute.

The whole world looks fantastic and is full of players questing or doing duties. The whole one time content like the story and sealed dungeons felt so fresh. You are doing so many different things and puzzles just to get your map cleared from questionsmarks and green quests. Also flying. Wow is it fun to fly to content by yourself.

The character editor and graphics are not BDO level, but damn does the game and all its characters look so good.

On top of all of this, there is crafting and more instanced content I havent even touched yet.

There is just so much different things to do and your weekly caps are so casual friendly, that its hard to abuse this friendlyness on 4 characters. So I just spent time on the class and activity I want and give up on min maxing like the normal people with only 1 main might do. But damn I wish I could get those season pass wings on more than one character.

Anyways...

Can totally recommend the game. This is how a new MMO should be.

Fire Temple can be done without a cleric and templar. Theres no mechanics at all, just boss patterns which are recognisable (although I do always struggle dodging bow blast attack). Having a glad and chanter is fine. CLERIC IS NOT A REQUIREMENT. I see so many groups refusing to start without either or and it's so frustrating to see so I always make my own groups. Don't get me wrong runs are defo cleaner and faster with them but again they are NOT A NEED. Also all groups asking for 100k but before getting FT gear i was at least 90-95k meaning, it is completely doable below 100k, gatekeeping that high a CP seems ridiculous. Stop gatekeeping so heavily and take some ppl below 100k.

Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.

This is absolutely ridiculous, we were way over 300 people here and the enemy faction just stormed us with what seemed like triple our numbers, this can't go on like this, our players are losing motivation.

SORRY BUT I HAVE TO RANT
It's been happening evey now and then since release but for a past few days it happens every 5min and freezes for like full 20sec. I know it's definitely not my problem when whole party in the dungeon also gets this. The server chat also complains alot. Are they gonna do anything about it?? I stopped doing dungeons cuz there's no point when you just get freeze and wipe...

4 clerics in one PT while the other party can't find any LOL

3 keys a day is too much. Pls give us double reward instead

Disclaimer: 
 
This post is purely positive, and a guide on how to have fun playing a non-meta class based on thousands of hours of my own MMO experience, and a useful mindset to adopt when doing so. 

If you’re genuinely struggling playing a less popular class, feel on the verge of quitting, or are unhappy with Pugging in Aion 2, this is for you. This post will give you the knowledge, mindset and TODOs to deal with your situation. 

My goal is to help some of you out there who are struggling. 

I did not use AI to write this, I wrote it myself because I am passionate about this. 

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Intro and credentials

I am 2,477 ilvl, 117k and play Assassin. I’ve been playing since Early access.

My character:
https://aion2.plaync.com/en-us/characters/2304/kdPX-_ocYSqMloiCy7IXZx_mtBbpaeo6pU3xDY5gZc8%3D?region=eu 

Plug of my character customisation if you like it:
https://aion2.plaync.com/en-us/styleshop/all?viewType=detail&view=6ac3e0f802862d665fca1a0a&viewRegion=eu 

I’ve got to my level through playing completely on my own, and have pugged everything in the game so far. 

Playing Assassin, I’ve seen it all in the group finder, and I’ve gone through hundreds of groups playing at all levels. 

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Obligatory P2W note for comments. Skip to the next section if you don’t care about P2W. 

Here’s the real life money I’ve spent on Aion 2 so far:

• I have bought the founders pack (playing since Early access, includes 1 month sub) (£20)
• Both the battle passes (3000 Kuna)
• About 15 levels on the 2nd battle pass (to max it out and get odyle energy repeatedly) (1000 Kuna cost). 
• beginners pack (for the bubble gum skin + 50 res stones). (£15) 

Total: £75. This is about €88 or $99 USD. 

I would have paid around this amount to play a new MMO launch / AAA title. For context, new WoW expansions I’ve played cost about £45 pounds to play, with about £11 going for the sub. 

A sub is all you need to eventually get to where I am at. There’s plenty of ways to set up your account to play free forever (except the sub), which takes a lot of effort, but it can be done. 

This involves setting up alts, and doing crafting (look up this video from Grobs for the basics of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3n_wKO6PE) 

If you’re happy sprinkling on a little extra to buy a battle pass, that will make the process faster, but you can literally buy the battle passes with gold you’ve acquired with your alt army and be totally fine as well.

All P2W in this game is sponsored by someone playing the actual game. E.g. someone has to grind the gold to sell whales, and someone has to drop the wings from dungeons to sell to whales (that they break down for enhance stones). 

There is a symbiosis between whales <-> players playing mostly F2P with the sub. The P2W in this game isn’t even that good in terms of money to power gained. You get more than enough money in the game to sustain yourself without ever needing to swipe. 
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(1) Why is my class not invited to groups

Let’s assume: 

• All groups will at least include 1 tank (to hold aggro), and 1 healer (to heal chip damage). 
• These classes are less common than dps classes (which is the case in Aion 2). 

Then let’s say some classes perform better than others on average in a pug group. 

This could be because, for an average dps player in Aion 2: 

• Their class is ranged rather than being melee 
• Their class is easier to play than another class
• Their class does a lot of dps vs. other classes balance wise

When we take both these facts into account
(1) with a general shortage of tanks and healers, and,
(2) that some dps classes perform better in pugs
This leads to the root of the issue: Your class is much less in demand. 

(2) What’s the easiest way to increase my demand, so I can play the game? 

The simplest way to do so is to make your own group. This is something you can do right now, today, without much work. 

Making a group takes time, you need to select the right candidates, and also puts you in a position of leadership. These are generally things players don’t want to do.

They’d rather farm some materials while you put in the effort to form a group, or afk on their phones while waiting.

There’s also the fact that high demand players would much rather enter a pre-made group with 3 or 4 players already in there ready to go. For example as a dps, you’ve got a tank in your group, you’ve got some strong dps players (good combat scores), and this makes it very appealing for a cleric to enter your group. 

You’ve just saved this cleric some time, and effort, and so they’ll play with you. 

(3) More 

Eventually when the game settles down a bit (everyone isn’t still very new, learning to play their classes, and learning mechanics), it will all just come down to one thing.

Combat Score. 

You can hear this from many players in Korea, or those who played in the Taiwan servers. These players have been playing for upwards of 10 months now since launch. 

When making groups, the only thing you really need is a good combat score. Whatever this may be set to. 

The combat score you have, is a rough estimation of how much power your character has gained. This includes item level, but is definitely not limited to just that. There’s many, many other axes to improve a player's combat power. 

Right now because we’re less in demand on classes like Assassin, you’re going to need to have an outstanding resume to get into the group. This means you need your combat score to be better. 

Think of it this way. 
Assassin’s = degree from mediocre University, so to get into a great job, e.g. Finance banking forex trading, we’re going to need to do a lot of extra-curriculars.

In the long run, players who work on their combat score will generally be better off than those who’re purely thinking about item level. This is because a lot, or most of the combat score is horizontal content, rather than being vertical, and this is something everyone will have to do, regardless of seasonal raids or dungeons. 

These are horizontals you can work on today, which will increase your combat power, hence increase your overall strength. This list will point you to these systems, go research them in your own time: 

• Genus insight board 
• Abyss shop: Stigma points
• Nightmare shop: Stigma points, Daevanion Crystal, statues
• Collecting feathers for Skill points 
• Killing world bosses for portraits (for Pantheon)
• Pet levels (from grinding pets, ascension trial, etc)
• Doing achievements (e.g. defeat Draupnir x10 times to receive a golden statue for your pantheon board). 
• Collecting better titles 
• Collecting wings
• Collecting skins

In my experience the single biggest increase in combat power will come from Stigma shards.

Additionally there are free ways of acquiring combat score: 

• Using your Stigma points effectively (e.g. two level 10 skills gives much more than, one level 5 and level 12. 
• Using your skill points correctly (to reach level 12, 16, 20 breakpoints). Excess points past these breakpoints sometimes have much higher value when put into passives for increasing your combat score than active skills. 
• Using your daevanion board points effectively (follow a meta guide). 

Then there are ways of increasing your actual dps in Aion 2 by playing better (these will not increase your combat score). This will increase the likelihood of players wanting to requeue the dungeon with you afterwards (this is because you’re performing at the same level, or much above other classes). 

• Using the meta highest dps skills and stigma points
• Setup your macro correctly to use the above
• Animation cancelling macro with auto attacks. 

There’s 3 levels to animation cancelling: 

• Hold left click to animation cancel macro 
• Spam left click to animation cancel macro faster (this is tedious and will result in RSI, better is below). 
• Setup a mouse macro to spam auto attack, and macro on holding down right mouse button (on something like Logitech G-Hub, XifanGG has a great section on this in his guide on Assassin, timestamped at: https://youtu.be/OuL0b9RPJuY?si=XG74clNIwOi-F-bq&t=472, make sure you set up a profile for Aion 2 to avoid changing your right click throughout your system).
  

I’d suggest going to the training dummy in your major city (e.g. safe haven in Asmo), and try out the above suggestions for a ~1 minute target dummy parse to see if your dps increases, and by how much. 

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Outro

The point of playing a MMO is that I have fun, and what class I find fun will be based on my personal preferences. It’s just a fact that if you’re wanting to play less meta classes, you will end up facing the issues described in this post. 

The important thing to remember is that this game is fun because of the journey. If you were given a perfect character, it’s most likely you’d quit quite soon after as there’d be no sense of progression left in the game. One of Aion 2’s biggest strengths as a game is the progression system. It keeps you hooked and wanting to play more. 

Nearly everything you do is towards the be-all and end-all goal of number go up. This is fun, and as a less meta-class, getting is a greater challenge, but also very rewarding. 

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TL;DR: Get good.

ofc i already reported this guy

First experience with AION 2 and not being a huge mouse and keyboard player I totally fell in love with it.

I’m only a lvl 30 cleric, but it’s fun figuring out the mechanics of the game and just learning something new. The world is HUGE. The visuals are spectacular, and the character customization is nothing to scoff at either.

I was honestly floored when I saw this was obviously free with an emphasis on farming you’re way to the top or swiping it up really want to, but I feel like you really do get so much for free.

I opted to get the membership just last night to support the game because I was on it for hours so I said why not throw them some cash for an experience like this.

I hope other folks are having a great time too!!

While this are just a few, there are many more. Don't get me wrong, there is a lot of valid points, but many posts are just wrong or even a lie.

With the majority of them are literally like "pay2win heavly monetized" while the only thing you have to do (which is not even needed, and is even heavly tuned down compared to KR/TW) is to pay a subscription for 12,75€ (15$). If this is so heavily monetizing their game, WoW, FFIV etc. are as well.

I write Raid Relay's guides. Here's how I'd pick Duty Quests at level 45, based on the Global client tables and in-game checks.

The basics

• Open the Journal (J), Duty tab, from level 45. Duty Quests (also called Duty Missions) are on the Mission tab, Commands on the Command tab.
• You can finish 5 a day, shared by every character on the server.
• If you take a quest and then see a better one, abandon the first. Abandoned quests don't count toward the 5.

Rarity doesn't matter

Common, Rare and Epic Duty Quests all pay the same Basic Rewards: 50,000 Kina and 1,000 Abyss Points. Rarity only changes the task. Check the Random Reward when choosing between quests.

The five Random Reward slots each have their own chance to pay out. In the first screenshot, the chances from left to right are 100%, 50%, 33%, 25% and 10%. A key in slot 1 is guaranteed. In slot 5, it has a 10% chance.

What to look for, best first

1. Nightmare Dungeon Challenge Ticket, until you've claimed the First Clear Rewards of every Nightmare boss you can beat.
2. Shugo Festival Reward Key.
3. Ascension Trial Challenge Ticket, if you can clear Hard or Extreme.
4. Unknown Fissure Challenge Ticket, an extra daily dungeon run.
5. Key: Hidden Cube. A keyed cube pays 1,000 Soul Crystals.
6. Small Odyle Energy.

Look for these in the first three slots, preferably the first two. Fill the rest of your 5 daily quests with whatever is available. Only about 1 quest in 5 has one of these items in its first three slots.

When to refresh

Refresh if none of the available quests has a key or ticket in its first three slots. I'd stop after 6 refreshes: those cost 143,500 Kina total, while the 7th alone costs 200,000.

Commands

Commands are Duty Quests you buy as scrolls, and they don't count toward your 5 a day.

• Your region's Command scroll: 15,000 Kina, 12 a week, from the Command Merchant in Altgard (Asmodian) or Verteron (Elyos).
• The PvP Command scrolls: four grades of Latesran Root Command, 15,000 to 150,000 Kina, 5 a week each, sold at your faction's base in Chaotic Lower Reshanta. You'll do their quests in the same area, so watch for the other faction. They also pay Abyssal Power Shards, and the more expensive grades have better Random Reward chances.
• Every Command pays 1,000 Abyss Points. The limits are per server, and unused scrolls carry over after the weekly reset.
• Pick a Command's quest the same way, by its first three slots. Each scroll lets you redraw its quest up to 10 times. I stop at 5 redraws, which cost 25,900 Kina total.
• Buy the cheaper scrolls first if you're short on Kina.

Source: Raid Relay, Aion 2 Duty Quests Guide: https://raidrelay.com/aion-2-duty-quests-guide. The guide includes item odds, Command slot chances, merchant locations and the client tables.

If you're getting different results on your server, let me know and I'll check the tables.