Cabo Verde played well, unfortunately literally everyone behind the world cup wants to keep the narrative of only the "good teams" can win so they had to stop the game immediately while every other game where the main teams were losing got 5-20 minutes extra time to score and make sure they win and I say this as a portuguese. The world cup is so obviously fixed that I genuinely can't see why people are so excited by it even after what happened last year.
This while stoppage time thing and the refs controlling when the game ends is why I think some soccer league should try out NCAA timing, even if itâs for one season. Clock stops when play is interrupted, whether itâs a goal or out of bounds and each half ends when the clock hits 45 or 90 minutes
If the ball "touched" MatanoviÄ's head and clearly hit Veiga's head, why don't the sensor traces I've seen show both impacts? They happened a fraction of a second apart. How convenient that the graphs I've seen have no labels or legends. Also note that the telemetry from the ball is not synched to the video, it has to be synched manually. Take from that what you will.
unfortunately literally everyone behind the world cup wants to keep the narrative of only the "good teams" can win so they had to stop the game immediately while every other game where the main teams were losing got 5-20 minutes extra time to score and make sure they win
Stopping every half on the dot was honestly stupid, for both sides, because it completely ignored the momentum and stopped it in the middle of plays that could've been a goal.
Isnât that just like every other timed sport though?
This WC, not really. Most games have an extra few minutes after the last minute, and in pretty much all cases they give it some extra minutes on top of that in case it's in the middle of a play.
During the Argentina-Cape Verde match, though, they ended the halves ON THE DOT (4:00 and 8:00 respectively) ignoring the fact that the ball was still in play and there was an attack going on.
I agree that Cabo Verde played extraordinarily well, though the ref actually did the same strict time keeping for the 45 and 90 minute extra time. For both, the whistle blew 1s after the initial added time, no exceptions. At the 45' + 4:01' mark, even though Argentina had possession approaching goal and was mid-play, the whistle was blown and half-time started.
Whether that means "FIFA federation wanted good teams to win" or "this specific ref is a hard stickler for time, unlike most others have been", I can't be certain, but I think of the two, the second option is much more likely
Also I agree. The ref in the Cabo Verde game made so many bad calls or fouls that clearly weren't. We were on the edge of our seats when Cabo Verde had the ball, and it was so amazing to see them play.
right wing goverments have fucked us so fucking bad and the people here keep voting for them thinking things will be different this time and they wont be corrupt or take massive debts and make the money vanish
The biggest issue with governments (independently of whether they are left or right) is that they all resolve into the same (generally).
In the case of Argentina right now, they have a government that not only sells it's own means of production and resources, but also sells them at such low prices.
That country has everything a nation could need, resources, means to get energy, land, etc.
It's a country that (currently) gives away it's resources to buy the products at exuberantly greater prices.
yup, but the thing is from this century at least left wing goverments over here have generally tried to strengthen local production because they're aware of what you said, the country has practically everything needed to be self sufficient
meanwhile right wing goverments have done their best to sell land to the highest bidder or even just friends (see: Bolsonaro's brazilian goverment as well) and destroy local production under the guise of a "free market" (Milei's foundational policy)
so you're definitively right in the sense that Menem was from a left wing party (even if his policies were very similar to Milei's current policies) and he tried to sell the country piece by piece in the 90s though
Goalie was setting up the wall and arbiter blows the whistle for the kick before he is back in position.
Defense gets kicked in the knee and no faul is given but you take the ball from Messi and it's an instant faul.
Game ends as soon as Argentina scores the tie breaker. Meanwhile the Brazil x Japan game the judge invents the 3rd time just to give Japan a chance at a tie.
Whistle was called already. Itâs the opposing teamâs fault for not correcting the wall beforehand.
May I remind you of the countless FKs and Corners that have been scored because the opposing team was distracted. All of those were âfairâ while this is âunsportsmanlikeâ. Crazy double standards.
2 There was no contact. You might be blind or biased, but there was no touch and it was a dive by the CV player.
No time wasted hence no ET. Same happened when CV equalised in 102nd minute but very limited ET was given at half time.
Stop spreading propaganda and start watching matches.
First off, I'm not going to defend the players singing that song, I thought it was stupid back in the day and I still think it (specially cause whithin Argentina the main social problem is more clasism than racism so it's quite stupid for those guys to sing a racist song when pretty much all of them come from poverty, iow the segregated group) but I do think it's just some shit they did because it hurts and football fans like to sing shit that hurts, it's the same reason why people from South America sing about Malvinas being under UK's position to shit talk us, I don't really think they are genuinely racist normally or that they hate black people specifically. They did get penalized for that tho, I recall Scaloni had to personally apoligize even when he wasn't in that bus.
As for the 1900s thing, I'm going to be honest, I'm barely finding out about this. I've always been told the reason why black population in Argentina is so low was due to a good chunk dying in wars like the Paraguayan war and the rest just got assimilated by mixing up with the rest, but the thing about being forced to mix and leave their culture is new to me, that's really fucked up (guess it's no surprise knowing fucking Roca and what that mdf did with the Indian population).
What I do wanna say tho is that I genuinely think Argentina isn't currently as racist as people make it out to be. I'm not afro-american black but I am fairly dark skinned (you know, south American dark skinned) and I don't recall ever being segregated or treated differently for that. Of course, there's always that one dumbass that starts genuinely believe the European blood myth (you know, treating the European immigrants most come from as of they were only the highest classes when most where actually people from the lower classes starving and desperate to start a new life after fleeing from war) but it's genuinely not as much people as people from outside the cpuntry think
but I do think it's just some shit they did because it hurts and football fans like to sing shit that hurts, it's the same reason why people from South America sing about Malvinas being under UK's position to shit talk us,
These are not comparable at all. One is banter about Argentina losing a war they started about some islands for people who don't even want to be Argentinian. It's like making fun of Germany for losing WW2. Also, they still claim the islands and play the victim. If they didn't still claim the islands and play the victim, very few people would make fun of them. Also, I'm sorry, but your excuse for the racism is that they're singing that stuff to make people feel bad... That's fucking horrible and is objectively racist. Making fun of someone's race is not banter. It's just being a fucking cunt.
There are also multiple papers that discuss the racism present in Argentinian society. It's become addressed more recently, but it's still prevalent:
You linking a Reddit post as proof is as valuable as a koala or a moon fish.
Yeah, it's reddit of, course there's every mentally ill specimen you can think of in this shithole of a place, and so twitter and friends. Truth is that if you go to Argentina or any south American country in general, there's going to be barely any negative feedback at all, internet on the other hand is full of rage baiters and attention starved people (there are genuine people that we would be better off to save some oxygen for the rest).
Even so, there can be genuinely wholesome people too around here, but if you only want to look at the rocky side of the road then that's your choice.
Some people will mention the racism allegations but I'm gonna be completely honest, most people wouldn't care nearly as much if the average Argentinian wasn't the epitome of ego and arrogance
They really make themselves have a very uh, punchable energy about them, and any insults hurled towards them is taken as a compliment
Theyâre just insufferable as fuck, they make everything about football, and I personally canât stand them because they have a big ass ego ever since they won the last WC
They are also racist.
At the start of the year a woman came to Brazil on a trip.
She started discussing with a guy at a bar and started imitating a monkey because he was black.
She got arrested and just around 2 months ago she was released.
What did the angentinan government did? Told people coming to Brazil that they shouldn't imitate monkey, as people can get offended.
even as an agentinian I gotta give it to them, they really were the stars of this world cup
hope they can keep it like this for the next one (Vozinha is probably gonna retire sadly) it really is a shame cabo verde had to play with us because they could've gone much, much further
most stolen game of all time, it's in the rule that the player must stay of the field 1 minute after getting medical care and the assistant referee was literally urging the Argentinian medical staff to let the player comeback to the pitch before the Cabo Verde set play began
They (FIFA) just donât give a shit about the rules on paper anymore. People forget that they literally gave Trump their own peace prize a few months ago, they obviously have an agenda and want certain teams to advance/win.
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not to mention that they went 10+ minutes beyond extra time for portugal and brazil but they stopped exactly at the end of the 3 minutes even with cape verde on a attacking position, while argentina wasted so much time celebrating and faking injuries to gain time. They're not even hiding it anymore, fifa already chose a winner for this tournament.
literally only happened last time. 2018 was France x Croatia, 2014 was Germany x Argentina, 2010 was Spain x Netherlands, 2006 was Italy x France, 2002 was Brazil x Germany
"Let me go watch my obviously corrupt world cup that was hosted in the US for the sole purpose of deflecting my attention from the Epstein files, I'm so excited to do exactly as the billionaires want!"
Yeah. Way back in 2018 when the bid was awarded Trump knew he would need some kind of distraction in 2026. Anyway, pedophiles are not being punished not because people are distracted, but because the pedophiles own the whole corrupt country. The US is a modern banana republic.
of course federacion israel de fooball association decided to stop the match the MOMENT e.t. was over and cab verde had a real scoring chance but gave every other match stopped 2-5 minutes after
Thats like us europeans with France, we will make fun of them and insult them online in an unharmful way, but we will obviously not do it to them in person, not only because why would you do that to a stranger, you don't even know if he hates or loves his country, but because insulting an unknown stranger is still weird or bad, he might not use social media or he might work for a charity, he is not your terminally online patriotic Argentinian bothering people online and roaring about his country
Really? I am argentinian, the REAL problem are the ones that batshit crazy for football hating on those i understand but hating the whole country is a bit much
Just goes to show never underestimate your opponent. Cap Verde managed to get into their heads, which is always a very dangerous place for a reigning champion.
this game was some bullshit, 8+ extra minutes to Argentina, while 1 minute from the 3 extra minutes for Cabo Verde got wasted on the guy going back to the bench and back to the game
Cabo Verde who just qualified to the world cup for the first time in their history went toe to toe with argentina, the reigning champions in a generational match. Cabo Verde also managed huge upsets vs Spain and Uruguay by holding them both to a draw, with great performances from their defense and especially their goalkeeper Vozinha (who gained millions of followers after the Spain match lmao). Spain is one of, if not the favorite to win the whole thing aside from France btw, so it makes it even more impressive
I swear that Argentinians are the worst, I'm in a couple Facebook groups (there's more Spanish speaking groups there), and all the time before the match were saying racial insults to the Cabo Verde team and how they are pure blooded Germans, that they came on boats and how they're the best on everything.
As Mexican you know how much they say us as "Mexichangos" (translated something to Mexican-ape).
I don't know how they can enjoy an celebrate such a mediocre victory lmfao cape Verde made them their birches tbh.
Sadly they always had a slight edge thanks to the referee calling a foul every time a mosquito touched an Argentinian player, ignoringthe disgusting tackles by Argentinian defenders against rival players, ending the game at the exact minute, knowing perfectly well that Cape Verde was about to have a chance to score, but delaying the hydration pause and giving Argentina 3 full fucking minutes to have multiple chances to score before the pause, also allowing a player that just got medical assist to re-enter the field before the time out he had to wait. And so on.
They always get so many assists from fifa to ensure messi passes to the next round that I really don't get how Argentinians fans feel accomplished seeing how FIFA treats their team like princesses lmao. I'd be embarrassed if that's the way my team wins everytime.
We are literally that meme from the boondocks (i think the show is called) "we call everyone nword, we call ourselves nword, nword this, nword that, nword please" we call the whitest white to ever white "negro" because we dont care, nobody that gets called negro in argentina cares. But when we do it in the rest of the world it is a problem (rightfully so, you dont need to be like argentina) and people struggle being something they are not (my initial comment had the explicit nword (no hard r) and i had to censor it).
There's this little thing called confirmation bias and sample sizes. Stop generalizing a country made out of 45 million people because of some couple thousand loud assholes.Â
My dude, i can assure you, the last thing we argentinians do is call us pure blooded germans, since we are more proud of being ARGENTINIAN. The thing about the boats was said by our ex-president, that was a senile old man that was THE clown and pet of the vice. And we are definitely not the best at everything or we would have a decent economy, and if you say it because we call ourselves "the best country in the world"? Everyone in this country knows, without doubt, that is not true... The most fun to be in? Maybe, you are never bored with the news here.
I say YOU are the worst for putting an entire country in a bag just because some idiots that, surely, are not or are no longer argentinians, just so more people can hate others from a country for no more reason than "he thinks is better than others" when the reality is not like that
Argentina keeping tradition of not being knocked out due to a handball not being counted as a handball (the own goal was because the ball bounced off a Capeverdean hand)
fouls don't count when the other team has the advantage. it would make no sense to remove the point to give a penalty(the possibility of a point). Only if the attacking team fouls does the discount occur. otherwise you'd be incentivicing defending players to foul on purpose if the goal seems inevitable to discount it immediatelyÂ
Unfortunately there will allways be assholes somewhere, and yet even despise this people existing i can assure you our whole country has great respect for cabo verde
Mucha gente se queja de Argentina pero ninguno le llega a los talones cuando tengan a un Maradona o un Messi ahĂ van a poder hablar correctamente respeten los rangos đ€«
Insoportables, estan totalmente podridos de la cabeza. No conocen a un argentino y andan criticando, hablando de racismo e historia que no entienden, preguntandole a chatgpt hasta que les da la razĂłn para discutir sobre temas que no conocĂan hace 5 minutos.
Se llenan la boca hablando de racismo y xenofobia, y son quienes mĂĄs la predican. Por suerte esos problemas no llegan a este paĂs por otro medio mĂĄs que el internet.
As any good Brazilian, seeing Argentina struggle against Cabo Verde was incredible, honestly, and Vozinha deserved the MVP award, no one cares about Messi, heâs old news
Honestly, Vozinha is the first player that might make me get a jersey of his number. His goalie skills and playing with the ball in front of opposing players is something I've never seen before. And that he's 40 years old and keeping pace with other players is awesome.
It really is too bad that it is Not about sportsmanship, coming together as a planet but that it is Big Corporation making BIG money and fixing the game so that Corporation does not lose.
argentinians are disgusting people, coming from someone who lives next to them. literally a bunch of racist ppl that have fifa, the us and a TON of money on them. all matches they play are CLEARLY rigged, messi could straight up punch someone and the judge wouldnt call it a foul
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