r/whatisthisthing • • 2d ago

Solved! Another peculiar item from the recycling bin. Once again I believe this to be titanium. There are three connection pins on the bottom. Google image search has many wild ideas, none of which seem to be right. It is 2.5” wide and 3” tall.

1st image: Top

2nd image: bottom.

The other pictures show the sides. I believe it was thrown away due to the nick circled in photo 5. One friend of mine suggested it may be some sort of fuel injector.

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u/Larry_Safari …ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ 2d ago

This post has been locked, as the question has been solved and a majority of new comments at this point are unhelpful and/or jokes.

Thanks to all who attempted to find an answer.

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u/Mlska 2d ago

From what I can tell this appears to be to be an ion trap. Unknown what brand/manufacturer. https://www.ms-museum.org/ion-trap-internal-ionization

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u/jkhilmer 2d ago

This is 100% in the right category, just with the details wrong.  It's not technically an ion trap, which would be the mass analyzer part. This unit is a part of the front-end ionizer / filter parts. The six holes are to match with a subsequent hexapole analyzer/filter. The conical part is either an ion lens or an aperture to restrict gas ingress. Because the ionizer is basically at atmospheric pressure (and in the case of electrospray ionization, there's a lot of water becoming gas) and the analyzer is under high vaccuum, you need restriction orifices to let ions through but restrict the bulk uncharged molecules. 

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

Solved! That is 100% what it is. Thanks!

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u/2025Skidmark 2d ago

More on ion traps - wikipedia from a link on the previous page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_trap

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u/Mlska 2d ago

The parts are almost identical (minus the housing bing missing in the example link.

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u/Pacificator-3 2d ago

The case looks not high-vacuum-friendly. May be it is for transportation only.

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u/Buddha176 2d ago

Speakers only need two wires this looks to have a common wire and 2 hot legs.

I want to take it apart

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago edited 2d ago

Here are all the components laid out

They are in order of construction with the furthest right being the last piece.

Edit: please see this for a photograph of the electrical element https://imgur.com/a/yzy2AgI

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

The bottom actually comes apart too.

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u/ALLCAPS-ONLY 2d ago

What material is the black coating on the washer and bolt thing?

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u/jason_abacabb 2d ago

Seeing it disassembled like that makes me more confused.

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u/Its_Curse 2d ago

Yeah I was voting speaker or audio equipment of some sort but now that it's disassembled I have no idea. 

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u/SpaceAgePotatoCakes 2d ago

It looks like a variable spray nozzle/injector of some kind.

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u/ceelose 2d ago

The electrical bit reminds me of an arc gap like in an ozone generator, but I don't understand why there would be 3 electrodes.

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u/dankhimself 2d ago

I'd do the same thing.

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u/erikedge 2d ago

I've seen old telephone handsets repurposed into microphones that give a really cool lo-fi vibe. Maybe that's what this is?

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

I thought it could be a speaker or microphone but if that was the case it would be ridiculously overbuilt. The connection pins are also unlike anything ive seen before.

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u/bibdrums 2d ago

They look like bullet connectors. I’ve seen them a few times in car audio installations.

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u/DeepFuckingPants 2d ago

I just took apart an old telephone headset and the plastic cover for the speaker sorta looks like this, but the speaker and receiver are much more flat and the holes are much bigger.

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u/feinerSenf 2d ago

Interesting do you have a source?

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u/Rodmfingsterling 2d ago

It actually looks like a flow reducer or flow regulator valve. The two blue pieces act to slowdown pressure like a damper. On the low pressure side there are 3 holes. Pressure side is one hole. The segments and missing all the components before or after the valve.

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u/Rodmfingsterling 2d ago

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u/AdventuringViking 2d ago

That's what I was thinking too. A flow control valve.

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u/mc-3 2d ago

I think you're on the right track, but I bet it's just for measuring rather than regulating anything. See the "electric" portion of it. Those two terminals can act as a temperature sensor or impedance sensor, which can approximate any number of measurements.

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u/Ok-Breakfast-990 2d ago

I would expect an o-ring groove or some threaded interface if it was intended to hold pressure.

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u/jeffreagan 2d ago

Ultrasonic alarms used to use piezo transducers that looked like those.

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u/Bongcopter_ 2d ago

Looks like a tweeter from some « audiophile » boxes that cost more than my car

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u/obviousbearfucker 2d ago edited 2d ago

Hi there. Not sure how to post links, but hopefully this works. I am pretty convinced its for audio calibration. You have an image of the item disassembled and one image caught me. The conical item has a pinhole in it. I have done audiometer calibrations before and used items similar to this. You set a "phone", headset or other audio sending device on top of this device to assure the sounds you are producing are correct. The larger hole on the back that goes through "front to back" kinda really does it for me. You would run a cable/wire/connection through there connecting the testing equipment. This plugs into a system that would give the results and calibrate the audio coming from the device sending to the "headphone" or other audio device. I am including some links to show different versions. There are multiple companies that make this kind of equipment, but all do the same type of audio calibration. If you image search for audiometer calibration equipment, you can see more examples. Not limited to audiometer calibration. Any sort of audio needing specific tone/sounds and decibel level. My guess anyways.
https://akron.be/product/gras-43ag-ear-simulator/?lang=en
https://www.larsondavis.com/Products/audiometer-calibration-systems/portable-audcal
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRxlQZBu9wibbFaNyTdrL4Gztd7TyNO2vBSJYhtkKt5LQ&s=10
Edit to add one more good image link: https://www.newcastle-hospitals.nhs.uk/services/medical-physics/audiometry-quality-assurance-service/

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u/I_Brake_For_Gnomes 2d ago

I could see that. The markings on the bottom could be for lines 1 and 2 and the C for Common.

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

My title describes the thing. I would estimate it to be around 1lbs, but I do not have a scale handy. The rings on the side do rotate, but it takes a lot of force and im not sure they are really meant to rotate.

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u/Real-Sympathy1712 2d ago

Possibly an ion trap out of a mass spectrometer

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

Yes, you are right. Another commenter provided a link with an image.

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u/dw0r 2d ago

I think this is either right on the money, or very closely adjacent.

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u/cronx42 2d ago

Whatever it is, I don't believe it's a speaker particularly when looking at the disassembled photos in the comments. This one has me pretty stumped.

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u/PJs-Opinion 2d ago

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u/inio 2d ago

Looking at the disassembled pictures some sort of flow conditioner does make sense, except for the side-ports in the spacers.

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u/ddmf 2d ago edited 2d ago

I was already thinking tweeter from a speaker when you mentioned titanium - good quality tweeters use titanium.

But I2C is a 3 pin serial bus for sensors etc and that could be what the numbers mean which means it's not a tweeter.

However the three leads may be for an internal crossover.

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u/drwuzer 2d ago

Looks like some kind of fuel pressure regulator or part of a fuel pump possibly off a race car or aircraft maybe?

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

There is waste from cars and rockets in the bins so it is likely, thats why the fuel injector idea was possible for me. But I really dont know. I havent found similar fuel injectors online.

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u/drwuzer 2d ago

Given the titanium, rocket part sounds feasible... Big rockets?

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

It has been identified as an ion trap. But the universities do make rockets which are pretty big. I am not sure if any of the rocket parts are from the government, I just assume they would probably have another way of disposing of them but who knows.

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u/Sasselhoff 2d ago

Total side note (as I've got no clue what it is), but I'm curious. Do you work for a recycling center? Or are you just finding wild stuff when you go dig around? You've come across some interesting things.

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

I dont work for the recycling centre, but i am able to dig around. There are lots of interesting electronic items. But whenever there is something that I am curious about, I take it just to see what it is. Often times google image search lets me know, but with this and the last item they seem to be one-offs.

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u/kinga_forrester 2d ago

Everything about the design and materials says “aerospace” to me, especially the prominent symbols and quirky electrical connections. I agree with your friend that it’s meant to spray (or suck?) something, but I doubt it’s fuel based on the design of the housing.

Where was the recycling bin? That can be a very useful clue.

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

Like I said in other comments, they get waste from universities, schools, and other institutions. I have found parts from rockets and model planes before, as well as race cars and go karts.

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u/wantagh 2d ago

I’m guessing ionizing air nozzle for static elimination - similar to a gas or plasma fed source.

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u/hyundai-gt 2d ago

To everyone saying it is a speaker or microphone - it is not.

There's no cone, no flexible material at all to generate or capture sound waves.

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u/viperfan7 2d ago

Not all speakers have cones.

Planar magnetic speakers are a thing.

You also have electrostatic speakers.

There's also rotary subwoofers, now those are fun.

None look anything like what you'd expect a speaker to look like.

That said, I don't think it's a speaker either.

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u/-wok 2d ago

Yes no speaker cone visible, IF it’s got one behind the rigid metal cone shape with holes in it then it’s gotta be very small and confusing as to it being good for anything audible you can test if it makes a click sound when you connect a AA battery between any two wires

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u/username_redacted 2d ago

It could just be missing a diaphragm, which could be the reason it was discarded.

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u/ChickenPicture 2d ago

Possibly an audio compression driver, or even a plasma driver? Doesn't look quite right to me for audio though.

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u/Icy-Cow9695 2d ago

Recycling bin from what kind of facility? That would probably help narrow down possibilities vs anything. Oh and my guess is potentially some kind of sensor detector apparatus. I'd imagine particles could pass through it if the was some sort of suction. Or something was coming out of it.

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

Its a recycling facility that has waste from three universities, city hall, and other random places. There is a bunch of random stuff.

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u/Icy-Cow9695 2d ago

University could definitely lead some credence to my guess. But I'm definitely not an expert. The size of the holes would indicate to me that most likely it's air or some sort of gas that would be passing through it. It wouldn't really make sense for water or anything super thick really.

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u/Icy-Cow9695 2d ago

Tried to as this in your other post but it got locked while typing -

Oh man, I see you post a lot of this. Do you guys get paid to haul away all this "garbage"? It kind of blows my mind that lots of titanium is being considered trash. I'm assume you guys process it all down and separate out the metals? Then do you sell the raw material back to manufacturers? How well does being paid on two ends offset the cost of the reclaiming process? I know many aren't very efficient. I just wonder if it's profitable enough on its own osr is it subsidized or get government grants?

Man, what a rabbit hole. Sorry for all the questions and if any are irrelevant, fear not. I just ramble.

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

I actually have no clue! I assume the materials are separated then melted down. I do not work there, but they let me take items as I am friendly with them. I usually just go in search of things which I use like camera gear or cables, the occasional computer.

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u/Icy-Cow9695 2d ago

Oh fascinating and a cool source of crazy stuff clearly. I'd be curious to know the name of the place to do more research but can understand if you prefer to keep it private. I'd also be curious to see whet universities utilize it and what areas they research in. Would tell us a lot I'm sure.

Yes, I'm am amateur wannabe detective! Lol.

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

I cant say the facility but there is waste from the three major Toronto Universities, as well as a plethora of other facilities both government and private. It is just a big recycling facility with all sorts of stuff.

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u/Icy-Cow9695 2d ago

Very cool. With what I know, my theory stands. In the military there were various detectors set up all over to detect chemical or radiological trace elements and the portion where the particles went in were very similar. ​

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u/TightManufacturer820 2d ago

This looks similar to parts I have in an electron microscope. Electron lenses essentially.

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u/Gator242 2d ago

Three wires suggests a transistor. The holes suggest confusion

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u/kinga_forrester 2d ago

How did you test it for titanium? That’s throwing me off.

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

Another comment asked, it is just an educated guess going off of items I know are aluminum and titanium.

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u/kinga_forrester 2d ago

If you touch it with a grinder it will make brilliant white sparks if it’s titanium.

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u/Smeeble09 2d ago

Looks a lot like this water cooling tank expansion piece.

https://www.ocgear.com.au/products/watercool-mo-ra-iv-d5-expansion 

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u/5000DollarSuitComeOn 2d ago

I chose to believe you found some old guy's CIA test equipment stash, these are fascinating and extremely well built

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u/One-Case8144 2d ago

The electrical contacts are very similar to what we use in aviation.

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u/jerrybodangles 2d ago

Looks like its a piece of high-end optics lab equipment used to measure light.

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u/ThreeStarRatchet 2d ago

Is that nick deep enough to compromise structural integrity or seal integrity? If it broke the seal, that explains why they tossed it instead of just having a cosmetic dent.

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

Yes, seems like the titanium may have had a defect, it is a large chunk taken out of it. Its more of a hole than a nick to be honest, it goes to the centre.

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u/parentlessfather 2d ago

How heavy is it? The fuel injector idea made me think about large model airplanes.

Like another commenter said, curious what happens if you power it up

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

Its titanium, so not super heavy. I dont have a scale but id say 1 to 1.5 lbs just as an estimate.

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u/dhc2beaver 2d ago

OP can you see where the wires end up in the body? It looks like there is a shadow of some component in the hole of the bottom you took apart

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

Yes, I am not home right now but I can take a photo later.

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u/dhc2beaver 2d ago

Thanks, this is really interesting

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

https://imgur.com/a/yzy2AgI looks like the metal beside the element was exposed to very high heat

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u/dhc2beaver 2d ago

Hmmm, I wonder if it is some sort of temp or pressure sensor. That piece of metal may deform with heat or pressure and change resistance. with two separate leads it could be comparing outputs or just built-in redundancy. It got too hot or shorted to ground and melted maybe making the unit inop?

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u/Resident_Set1003 2d ago

Honestly, I believe it is a measuring device of extremely high precision for something like cosmic rays, alpha particles, or maybe a specific ion. The internal opposing conical "lenses" with the multi hole inlet and single hole final sampling to whatever sensor would have be connected to l2c. The round protruding"socket" appears to be first something like a thermal xducer or similar basic sensor to monitor some important variable with the chamber.

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u/American_Sai_Company 2d ago

Based on the shape of it and the connections, this is screaming transducer of some sort, and based on the "this is adequate enough" nature of the mating surfaces seals/tolerances, I'm guessing it's downstream of whatever process it is monitoring.

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u/solasgood 2d ago

That looks like a transducer floor sensor. You mount it to the underside of your flooring and it connects to the alarm system.

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u/makeDRIVEinTHEATER 2d ago

I check any unfamiliar objects using a Geiger counter radiation meter

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u/Far_Pomegranate_8511 2d ago

Back up warning horn,

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u/marcusrizaulait 2d ago

Ion trap from an old Mass Spectrometer

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u/marcusrizaulait 2d ago

The front end piece is clearly a filament for Electron Ionization... it's out of Mass Spectrometer

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u/Dandywhatsoever 2d ago

I say it from a hybrid car and it generates the electronic angel choir sound they make.

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u/earthfase 2d ago

From searches it could be a laser power meter. I2C is a serial communication protocol. Electronic sensors often use it. Never seen it on a speaker, so unlikely it's that.

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u/airfryerfuntime 2d ago edited 2d ago

Why do you think it's titanium? It looks like anodized aluminum to me.

Whatever it is, it's either aerospace or scientific, not a speaker or microphone.

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u/LoanForeign730 2d ago

If you look at the disassembled photos, there are two pieces which I am positive are aluminum. I also have some titanium to compare it to and they have the same feel and look. I mean they could technically be aluminum but I doubt it.

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u/DieselPower8 2d ago

The keyhole shape on the back is for hanging on a wall

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u/jerrybodangles 2d ago

THORLABS IS200 2" Integrating Sphere.

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u/Guernzee 2d ago

So I cheated and got AI to have a look. There were some weird and fanciful ideas, but a piezoelectric transducer seemed to be the closest match. It appears to be used in the dental and medical world a fair bit. People were on the right track about acoustics/speakers as it has something to with that too apparently. No idea other than that, definitely not something I've seen before.

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u/parentlessfather 2d ago

I also got AI involved for a sanity check. It said it was a timer control for a clothes dryer. That doesn't feel right at all to me. Just an example of how AI can go wilding off.

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u/Guernzee 2d ago

Originally it was telling me it was an air gun silencer, which it clearly isn't. But I did actually look into that other doodad it suggested it may be and there were definitely some similarities with that round bit in the middle. Either way, it's shiny and I want one 😂

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u/clarky2o2o 2d ago

It looks like a speaker from a sony surround sound machine.

. They had holes in the bottom looks so you can prop them on a stand behind your couch.

But i see it's missing a conr and other stuff.

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u/lewisfrancis 2d ago edited 2d ago

Looks like a kind of speaker meant to go into some sort of modular system. Maybe an ultrasonic pest repeller? You could probably hook the leads up to a 9-v battery and see if it generates sound.

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u/Electrical_Gas_517 2d ago

I'm saying it's a speaker.