What do you mean! You certainly read texts ending in examinations at the end of every sentence! That was clearly to let you know what she was saying was important! And every sentence is important! Four screenshots worth of sentences! They're all important!
tbf these aren’t screenshots; these are pictures of the phone. so maybe OOP just got ahold of the phone rather than having the texts shared with them and the woman actually did try to keep it between them lolll
These are called "receipts"... So, when Mom acts up later (and I think we all know she will) WHOMEVER is prepared to embarrass her. And I'm totally here for that story.
That is QUITE the explosion about wedding food.... Eat before, eat after, go hungry that day (absent medical issues), or don't even go. But good god, get a grip here!
Fr. I saw this earlier (before the cross post), and my first thought was, “I should get Tibetan food tonight.”
People who hate “ethnic” food (esp when they want to talk about “what Americans eat”) are almost guaranteed to have the most boring tastebuds known to humanity. (Same with the assumption that all vegetarian food is “tofu” — Indian food is amazing and so much of it is vegetarian or vegan!)
I live in a very (American) Southern area and had a two week trip to Vietnam last month. People keep asking me if I ate the food. I always think “Yes? What else would I have eaten?” It was all delicious, we even took a cooking class.
The two times I went to Japan, I did try some of their burger chains (Mos Burger is my favorite, but Freshness Burger and Lotteria are both good) and tried a few of their takes on some US chains. Their Denny’s and KFC are legitimately excellent.
But I also ate curries, okonomiyaki, yakitori, gyudon, ramen, soba, fun food at a few theme restaurants (RIP Yurei and Kawaii Monster Cafe), and all of the konbini snacks. Like I started off most days with two onigiri and a cold bottle of Sangaria green tea.
But, yeah, some of my boomer family members and coworkers were like, “I don’t know how I’d eat there.” I was like, “It isn’t just all raw fish and tofu. They have stuff you would enjoy even if you were unfamiliar with it at first.”
There’s a restaurant in Japantown here that serves Japanese comfort food (things like omurice or spaghetti with ketchup) as well as more “traditional” dishes, and I go there mostly for the omurice.
I’ve definitely met folks who haven’t had Japanese food that don’t know there is more to it than just sushi. Actually, 47y ago, my mum was one of them! My dad took her to a Japanese restaurant on their first date, and she was surprised and delighted to learn that there were all sorts of Japanese foods she loves. They ended up going back to that same restaurant for pretty much every special occasion for the next 40y until it finally closed. And my mum always got the sukiyaki.
I love that I live close to an Asian market that sells onigiri for all my snacking needs.
omg you're so lucky, Vietnamese food is so much better than the average American diet. Our favorite local family-run Vietnamese place recently closed for a month while the entire staff went home to visit relatives, and on our first visit after that our waiter was standing by our table just scrolling through his phone showing us pic after pic of dishes they'd had. They serve great food but what he was showing us looked even better lol.
I once posted on Facebook about going to a Vietnamese restaurant and a friend responded "I don't eat foreign food but I hope you enjoyed your meal." Girl bye. (Am betting she'd happily tuck into a lasagna or pizza, despite those not being "Canadian" food)
What the pho? (Sorry, couldn’t help myself there 😹)
I grew up in an area with a lot of Vietnamese immigrants, and I remember my friends coming to school with much fancier sandwiches than the rest of us, because they got homemade bahn mi. Totally jealous of them.
There is a great Laotian restaurant near me, and it has a little satellite location that is actually a burger place, but their featured menu item is a burger inspired by Laotian food. (You can get that one burger at the main restaurant too.)
Yup. Cantonese cuisine is a large part of the food I was raised with and Tofu has always been included alongside meat dishes.
Although for Cantonese food in particular, if folks are scared of Tofu they'd hate to see what's in my Nan's 70s dinner party, Hong Kong edition cook book.
I'll have to see if I can find it, but there's absolutely a 'Phoenix' made of a spread of various items to mimic the feathers and decorative patterns, completed with the chicken's literal head at the top.
It's definitely an especially unique trip through history where the British influence meets traditional Cantonese cooking. Right down to the use of unconventional parts of animals/offal, or ones you can't cook nowadays.
My mother hasn't cooked too many bits from that cookbook to my knowledge. I'm the person who wanted it as something of a cultural curiosity and because cooking has been one of the major ways I've connected to my heritage.
And in regards to not making some of the recipes in the past, it's mostly about the dishes going out of style or the ingredients.
A number of the ingredients were hard to get unless you went to Chinatown, were offputting (offal) or...y'know... illegal in the UK.
Shark Fin and Turtle 😬 from before the ban.
So those certainly aren't ones I'll be attempting.
And I did share the phoenix platter photo in another comment above.
While I don’t disagree with either point you made, I do know at least two persons (partner’s besties) that hate ethnic food because they are genuinely boring folks inre: taste. Definitely not racist.
And I know at least two folks who dislike Indian food because they don’t like coriander.
Maybe I’m just giving hypothetical folks the benefit of the doubt. But in this case, I agree that MIL is just a racist AH.
Disliking a specific type of food (Indian, Mexican, what have you) is a matter of taste. When you encounter a person who blanket "hates ethnic food," they're racist. I would expect a non-racist adult to be able to express their preferences.
I missed that initially, and it’s a wild take. I align entirely with your stance, and I cannot imagine a worldview in which “putting farmers out of business” is a good thing. One of the most consistent government subsidies in our national budget has been supporting farmers, regardless of which party was in power.
Understandable, especially if eating prepared food (either from a restaurant or a store). But if made at home, it’s very easy to control that aspect and there are so many rich and wonderful flavours to explore.
My mum is very similar (I tease her for being a “zero stars kinda girl”), but she’s from Southern California and lives next door to an Indian woman, and she’s a big BIG fan of both cuisines. When cooking at home, she just omits any peppers (except for bell peppers and Anaheim chilis, but even Anaheims can have a fluke of Very Spicy). At restaurants, she’s found she can usually trust menus if they label the “hot” dishes (usually a chili pepper icon next to a menu item), and she always asks for things to be “very mild.”
My dad (and their neighbour) is her polar opposite in that he likes mind-erasingly HOT foods, and his hobby is growing chili peppers, especially any variety that is notable for being one of the hottest peppers known to mankind (25y ago, he was growing habaneros and scotch bonnets; now he’s got Carolina Reapers and Scorpion peppers and all sorts of things we’d never heard of back then 😹).
If your partner is into interesting food/new spice palettes, I’d recommend Afghani food if you can find it. That cuisine is rich in spices and flavour (understandable, given the region), but unlike Indian food, it’s almost all very mild. Certain regional dishes in India that originated during the Mughal period are traditionally very mild because of that influence. (The first Mughal emperors were ethnically from the Uzbek/Afghan region.)
ooh this reminded me that i do have an amazing tibetan place that i like to go to and its been a minute! i know what im having for dinner next payday hehe
If you’re ever in Seattle, there is an amazing Indian/Tibetan/Nepali place on Capitol Hill that I recommend to everyone. Annapurna Cafe. Their Lhasa curry is divine.
I’m allergic to soy and I’d still just try to find the options that fit. Pretty sure even when you’re serving tofu, you’re not serving exclusively chunks of tofu. There’s almost definitely other edible items. And if you just don’t like tofu, just … don’t eat it?
I mean, I am vegetarian and I don't remember the last time I ate tofu. Some vegie meat, yes, which probably also has soy, but at least half my meals also don't have that in it. Just cheese or beans or something.
Apparently I should have already killed myself by not having meat and therefor drinking too much and driving into a tree. Or does that only happen to Americans?
Same! Hell many people eat vegetarian meals very regularly and don’t know it because it’s just not loudly labeled as such. Tomato soup and grilled cheese? Vegetarian! A bagel and cream cheese? Vegetarian! Avocado toast (with an egg!)? Still vegetarian. Yes you could add meat to these things, but these are fairly standard dishes now a days you find at everything from fast food to high end.
Ive actually found instances of things NOT labelled vegan/vegetarian deliberately because certain people see the label and then just wont consume it out of spite.
My friend is allergic to uncooked egg, some fancy cocktails have a sort of foam whip ontop that is traditionally done with egg white but is easily mimicked with aquafaba. I'd say a third of the places we've been to use the aquafaba but dont label it as such and the bartenders have said its a deliberate choice because of the "ew vegan" crowd.
Not to be pedantic, but most chicken eggs available at grocery stores are unfertilized, which technically makes them chicken periods. So more like, “Dip the dismembered adult bird in the well-beaten remains of its menstrual cycle. Coat with crumbs.”
For real - I don't know when some people decided that meat in every single meal was a hill they needed to die on. Historically, it was a luxury that people savoured when they could get it and managed without on other days. It wasn't something people really obsessed over, and as you say, many traditional recipes don't actually contain meat.
Macaroni Cheese.
Many of the more traditional pizza toppings.
Baked potatoes, too, depending on the toppings you offer people.
Also, just saying.... a lot of pasta and pizza is vegetarian, if you don't use any meat-based toppings or ragù sauce. I don't know anyone that doesn't like at least one of the two.
From what I can tell from the text, their wedding will have Tibetan and Indian dishes that are vegetarian, and the groom's mother wants them to offer something "Americans" will eat, like baked ziti. Although, ideally, she wants chicken dishes, too.
It's true that there are people who turn their noses up at most Indian dishes, but I'm sure there will be naan and rice. It's one meal, and they won't starve. Worst case is that some people just eat a bunch of carbs. Rice, naan, cake. It's not the end of the world. My guess is a lot of people will be pleasantly surprised when they try some of the food options, too.
But if you don't eat meat, you will drink and then drive and possibly get into a car accident, or worse get your car impounded. I mean it's obvious that that can't happen if you eat meat! And obviously it's impossible to be a responsible adult and not drink at a wedding when you have to drive. Well that's obviously only impossible if there is no meat!!!
Well it sounds like the real issue is they can't go one meal without getting shit faced, but let's not talk about that and blame the food for thier lack of self control
i think she was saying that if the only option is vegetarian then people just won't eat at all and then they'll be drinking (because it is a wedding) on empty stomachs. nothing about needing to drink at every meal.
We had a vegetarian wedding and you can’t believe the comments we received from both my husband and my family. 6 people from my husband’s side had steak before the wedding dinner and made it very clear. It was very rude. The next day, they ended up saying how delicious and filling the vegetarian menu was and that they didn’t expect it
How silly. I guess everyone expects they’re just going to get celery and carrot sticks (“rabbit food”) and have no idea how delicious and diverse vegetarian cuisine can be.
It just make me wish I could promise her meat but serve it to every meal because it’s so important, small appetizers with bit chunk of meat, waffles with chunk of meat, cake with thick slab of meat. Just to make it absurd and see if she realize or just think it’s heaven.
Forget that. The craziest part of the text is where she's "happy Trump is killing the farmers because it will slow the animal slaughter." But she also eats meat and hates Trump. Crazy, sure but this person is a free thinker
The dishes she named sound so good. I can only imagine you wouldn’t even notice they were vegetarian if you didn’t tell anyone.
Same, I am not vegetarian. I still cook vegetarian dishes sometimes and I certainly wouldn’t mind eating vegetarian at a wedding (or birthday or whatever)
My high school graduation party was vegetarian. It was just one of those drop-in parties people could come to. We had lots of basic sides you might imagine, like tortilla chips with pico and guac, a cheese tray, a veggie tray, etc. We also steamed up a bunch of cheese tamales and grilled some portobello mushroom caps for portobello burgers.
My uncle saw it was vegetarian and went out and bought a burger instead.... but he brought it back and ate it there, waving it at me and saying he hopes it doesn't offend me.
Like, you're only there for an hour or so. You can't hang out at the party, eat some chips, and grab a burger on your way home if you're inclined? Why be rude?
It's pathetic isn't it. I'd probably not even go to what you described and think to myself "this is vegetarian", I'd just get the food.
I wouldn't feel like something horrendous was happening to my body cos it had gone 12 hours without consuming meat. They act like it's some form for torture.
I agree and it should be about what the couple wants first and foremost. While I sort of got her point about being considerate to the guests at first, she lost me at celebrating Trump "killing farmers," that's unhinged...
According to OP, she might get sloppy drunk because there was nothing she could eat! She then proceeds to plow over toddlers in a crosswalk! The car gets impounded and she goes to jail!
It was tragic! If she had just served some chicken, the toddlers would still be alive! The horror!
My favorite part of this is thinking vegetarian food is just soybeans and tofu and maybe a potato while listing all of the vegetarian meals she eats without questioning it.
"There has to be meat!!!" But excuse me while I list the meals I think they should have, without recognizing that the meals I listed are vegetarian.
Can someone please explain to her the differences between their, there, and they're? I can ignore the !s.
"Invite my friends instead of theirs because my friends are rich!"
I feel so bad for the daughter-in-law. I'm glad her groom seems to be standing up to her, protecting his bride, and the wedding of THEIR dreams, not hers.
My wedding was pescatarian. I’ve been a vegetarian my entire life so it shouldn’t have been too big of a surprise that my wedding would reflect that.. I got the same thing from my mom ‘what about the meat!?’ I told her that if someone can’t go more than 7 hours without a streak or piece of chicken, that’s not my fault. People still talk about how good the veggie paella, tostones, maduros and mango salsa fish were!!!
I know right? Some days I'm not in the mood for something heavy and I have some stir fry veggies and tofu. They're great. Soy sauce makes everything great.
I mean last night, I decided I was too tired to be bothered with anything complicated and had a bowl of porridge - and I didn't even put a single rasher of bacon on it!
I am thrilled Trump is killing the farmers! It will slow down the slaughter!
I'm sorry, what fresh dystopian hell has been unleashed on the US now..? Trump is hunting farmers, but this is good because they are slaughtering other people..?
As someone who is gluten free but refuses to let that be anyone else's problem, trust me, you will find something that you can eat, or just go through the drive through on your way home
Someone who has made eating meat their personality is deeply offended that a couple have decided to serve one single meal without it.
Her tantrum is especially funny because she is ignoring pretty much the entire history of the world, in which meat has been a luxury that people appreciate and not a necessity of life that they will die without - including the history of the USA where such dishes as baked potatoes, and tomato soup with a grilled cheese sandwich, are family staples - and is characterising this choice as a betrayal of America.
My father tried this pushing of meat when I was planning my wedding. He said that people were not going to be happy about a vegetarian meal and that he didnt want to go unless there was meat or fish. I said ‘fine, dont go then’. That shut him up immediately and he never mentioned the food again before during and after. And everyone liked it, 3 people complained there was no meat but they def didnt leave hungry, it was Italian food and it was in Italy. The groom should uninvite his mother imo, she’ll soon stfu!
No! She hates Trump! But loves that Trump is killing farmers!!! Dead Farmers makes this lady happy because they hurt animals but she and others might die if there are no dead animals to be consumed at the wedding!!
Oh Jeez. You know, I swear 90% of the "How dare you serve vegetarian foods" posts could be solved with either a good veggie lasagne, or with a baked potato buffet where people get to pick their own toppings and ladle on as much cheese and butter as their little heart desires to compensate for the fact that the bacon bits are missing.
(You know, the one thing I can't get past is the random "I'm glad Trump is killing the farmers!" sentence. From someone who isn't in the USA: wtf is going on with that?!)
Is she insinuating that WITH a substantial meal people can safely drink and drive? If anyone is driving out of that wedding after drinking I hope they get stopped by a copper
Wow, this was a wild ride. Every page or so I got whiplash and was so confused. She's outraged they won't serve meat! DUI! But she is trying to give up meat, and is opposed to killing animals. But woo, Trump is killing all the evil farmers who are killing animals! Go Trump! But actually she hates Trump, really. And also the groom isn't including enough of her friends and they risk not getting enough home appliances or china or whatever to get them set up properly as a young couple.
I may have missed some twists and turns in there, it was a real labryinth of logic.
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u/grapefruitjellybean 26d ago
This hurt my brain.