The improved turret speed (very important when fighting fast light tanks at this br) and 20 rounds vs 10 makes this better then the panzer 2 in most of the ways that count. The armour makes very little difference as its so unreliable.
The only real benefits of the pz ii is the extra man and slightly better pen.
I love pz ii and think its good but honestly think flak pz i is better
When I'm playing low ranks it's usually under the influence and I'm there to do dumb/funny stuff. I find amusement in infinite ammo and shooting everywhere..
What slightly better pen? The KwK and Flak habe identical performance. Actually the Flak is even better in game, since it has a mixed HVAP API-T belt, which is better against angles, as well as has even more penetration since the first rounds velocity in the belt Applys its velocity to All shells, which means the 148g API-T is fired at 1050m/s and gives it slightly more than 50mm pen.
When starting a new nation, I always look forward to the rank 1 vehicles. I did Italy a few months ago and I remember they had a large variety of vehicles that use a 20mm and it was very pleasant... Well, I remember disliking most of the other tanks for how clunky/slow they were.
Yeah Italy is nowhere near as bad as people seem to believe it is, you just can’t sit in the middle of a chokepoint and tank 30 rounds in any of its tanks
Funny how the vehicle description says it's intended purpose was to be a tank destroyer, and the flak in it's name is only regarding the gun....but whatever, brainrot o algo.
It's called the "Flakbus" / "Flaktruck" because its primary purpose was firing (you didn't actually guess it) FLAK SHELLS! And "Flak" is short for "Fliegerabwehrkanone", which essentially translates to "anti-air cannon". It's an AA.
No, its primary purpose was hauling the (Flak) gun around. It was originally intended to destroy fortifications, but also ended up being used against heavy French tanks
Not mentioned are all the spaa equipped with the 40mm Bofors there's a couple at low tier that are absolute beasts. Also not mentioned is the super underrated Zut-37, yes it's apparently an spaa with the slowest turret rotation in the world BUT man that 37mm is so good at dealing with tanks it's honestly a better light tank then an spaa.
It is nowhere near what it used to be with +60mm pen. That meant you could take on tanks like T-34s from 500m just by shooting through their turret face and T-34 sides were very vulnerable. Now T-34s turret even at point blank will just eat all the HVAP ammo.
They can be, yea, but the tanks around these br are at their peak of the br. They are faster, better armored, reload faster, punch harder and react faster. Getting a kill with one of those AAs vs then getting a kill with a Gepard at it's br is quite the difference.
Well they spawncamped behind a Rock and iris-t has 3 vehicles so you can call in 3 artillery stikes at once. And one time my missle missed a drone and railed a random BMP in their spawn
ISTG they are deliberately not fixing overpressure stacking at this point, a York can still pen a T-72 to the turret face with the SAP shells by killing the breech and triggering an overpressure kill
Of the 2 demons shown, at least the ZSU-57-2 can be reliably killed with overpressure from any heat round (I play a lot of vehicles with high pen HEAT-FS) or 50 calibers. The flakpanzer is high key worse especially when you can’t see where you’re shooting. Dealing with a ZSU that is obscured by a hill just means arcing heat or he over the hill & hitting anywhere on the vehicle. The flakpanzer, however, requires actually hitting a weak point like your average medium tank.
The M13/16 is probably the best AA / AT for its BR
Edit: What can stop it? A PZ III E frontally, maybe the 38T and the Swedish things, but most things are dead frontally/ All things are dead from the side.
M16 is 2.7 at that BR pretty much everything that isn't Japanese has enough armor to stop 50cal from front and even M13 has to face PzIVs,PzIIIs, 2.3 Pz 38ts, T-28E, T60/T70/T80, Stuart 1/3, Ho-I, whole M13 series, Turan, M41s and basically most of French tree.
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u/Flat-Cap-1063 1d ago
Flakpanzer 1 is a legit threat at rank I