r/Tactics_Ogre • • Jul 28 '22

Announcement Our Community Discord

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Hey everyone! You might not be aware of this, but we actually have a community discord for this subreddit, and our other SRPG subreddits that we run. If you're interested here's the link: SRPG Discord

We also run the main SRPG Subreddit if you haven't checked it out yet!


r/Tactics_Ogre • • Dec 10 '22

Tactics Ogre/ Ogre Battle Series FAQ

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Hello Knights. With the release of Tactics Ogre: Reborn, it is a good time to examine the series as a whole. Although this subreddit is dedicated to Tactics Ogre, it goes hand-in-hand with Ogre Battle. Below are some general questions that will help guide you through the entire series -

List of games (in order of original release)

Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen (MotBQ)

  • Released on SNES, PSX, Sega Saturn, Wii VC, and WiiU VC

Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (LUCT)

  • Released on SNES, PSX, & Sega Saturn
  • Remade as Tactics Ogre: Wheel of Fortune
    • Released on PSP
  • Remade as Tactics Ogre: Reborn
    • Released on PS4/PS5, Steam (PC), and Switch

Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber (PoLC)

  • Released on N64

Ogre Battle Gaiden: Prince of Zenobia (PoZ)

  • Released on Neo Geo Pocket Color

Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis (KoL)

  • Released on Game Boy Advance

Which games were released in English? Ogre Battle Gaiden was the only release to not make it to the west. Otherwise, all have been officially translated in English

What order should you play? Personally, I like to play them in series chronological order. KoL -> MotBQ -> PoZ -> LUCT -> PoLC. MotBQ & PoZ and LUCT & PoLC take place at the same times, so they can be flipped if you choose this way. Otherwise, MotBQ & LUCT are good starting points.

Will I miss out on story if I play in a different order? Not really, though I say this with some hesitation. There is an overarching plot to the series, but each game is a self-contained story. There are also some characters that appear in multiple games. Aside from some flavor, I don't think you would miss out by playing a sequel first. Prince of Zenobia is the only one that I can't say for certain, as I have not spent much time with the story.

How do the games play? The three Ogre Battle games play similarly to grand RTS games, whereas the two Tactics Ogre games play like traditional SRPGs (think grid-based combat). They are larger scaled, so battles can take some time. The games are also heavy on unit customization, so expect to spend some time in menus. All of that being said, each game has its specific nuances.

What is the setting of the series? The games are set in a traditional fantasy setting with limited technology. Only PoZ and MotBQ take place in the same place, so you get to see a few different countries throughout the world. There is also some in-game lore that expands beyond what is shown in the game.

What were some of the inspirations behind the series? Yasumi Matsuno, the series creator, enjoyed quite a bit of pop culture which lent to the series. The main title and some of the subtitles are taken directly from Queen songs. He also used some imagery from Flash Gordon (Vartans) and other films. He also drew heavy inspiration from real events, specifically the Yugoslav Wars. This inspired some of the darker portions of the game's narrative.

When will there be a new game in the series? There is no news of a new entry to the series. Hopefully Reborn will lead to a new entry, but it remains to be seen.

This was a pretty general overview of a very rich series. If you are interested, there are many interviews that contain information regarding the series development. Otherwise, feel free to ask questions below and we will try to answer them.


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 18h ago

The plot is near incomprehensible

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And i only say “near” because surely some of you have figured it out. I have no fucking clue what’s happening though lmao, and it’s finally starting to bug me. I understand the backstory, and watched the intro cutscene. I’ve listened to a podcast that explained it all too. So I got that.

but the plot, the actual plot that happens in game, is so fucking incomprehensible that it’s honestly kind of baffling. I understand I’m supposed to be reading the warren report every two seconds, but it’s so unintuitive. a pre-battle cutscene may introduce like5 new characters, then there’s a hr long battle with more new characters, then another cutscene with more new charcters. at what point should i look at the warren report? AFTER all that? why the fuck can we not look at it during cutscenes? seems asinine to me. i honestly can’t remember the names from one second to the next, let alone after a long battle.

i’m in chapter 3 of the chaotic path and the amount of names and regions is ridiculous. it’s not fun, it’s not interesting. i’m getting to the point where i’m just going to start skipping cutscenes. i think im fighting now to like, end the concept of fighting? cause i’m not fighting for walister anymore, i guess? seems like everyone i’ve ever met in this game is now against me. i keep letting neutral characters die because i cant figure out a) why their ai is so fucking suicidal or b) who the fuck they are or who they’re supposed to be representing. i just did brigantyn castle and yeah, no fucking clue what’s happening. barbatos, bapal, xaephos, xenobia, dark knights, holy knights, i can’t fucking follow a goddamn thing.

no real question here, just venting. i REALLY love the gameplay on hand here, it’s so fucking meaty and customizable. but i’m about to give up and go play unicorn overlord cause boy this shit is making me feel like a fucking idiot and giving me a headache.

EDIT:

just went to look at some character bios to see if maybe i’m missing something. the warren report biographies aren’t even in fucking alphabetical order! just randomly thrown in there, like “fuck you go find it”. no, game. fuck you.


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 2d ago

Tactics Ogre Does LUCT (PSP, not Reborn) become harder at max level?

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I keep everyone pretty consistently around the same level, rn it's about 40. Atm I want to level up all the lower level units, unlock some chars, do different storylines, etc. I've done POTD, San Bronsa, etc. The challenge is certainly there, but not suffocating since my core squads are pretty good, and I like that. During battles, I can have one or two useless units I'm babysitting (just to level them up).

Anyway, the question - 10 levels later at 50 (max) will it essentially scale to be more of the same so long as I try to have decent gear or will the experience change? Just a reminder this is not Reborn I'm referring to. Ty!


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 4d ago

Tactics Ogre Playing LUCT for the first time. Its my introduction to the series as a whole too. I have a question

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Why is beast tamer so bad am i doing something wrong

I got 3 different people with "recruit" skills, none of them seem to work. I understand the wizard failing to use "Coax". Its OK, it can compensate with magic. Im OK when my cleric failes to use "recruit". Its a cleric. A waste of skill points, but the cleric is strong af and can afford to waste a few points

But this useless bum of a beast tamer deals terrible damage no matter wich weapon skill i try, cant tank, cant use spells, takes till lv 3 to have enough points for one simple tame skill, then fails to tame every single beast i try to tame

Am i building them wrong? I got the whole anatomy thing to up the cleric's chance, beat up the human enemies till theyre at idk 5 health, and then fail to recruit them. OK. I focused on healing with this guy. Then i beat up lizard people till low HP, cant coax them despite herpology. OK. The wizard has lots of magic damage and very powerfull AOE crown control. But the beast tamer? How is he doing nothing? Cannot tank, cannot deal damage, cannot control the crowd, cannot buff others, cant heal, waste all skill points on taming, and then tame nothing. Am i doing something wrong?


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 5d ago

Tactics Ogre Draconic Magic: Starfall I-II

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Hello folks. I just want to throw in my 2 cents on Draconic Magic. In the PSP version items call Wyrm Gems were required to cast them. However Reborn done away with all that making casting them a little easier. Despite that even the low tier nukes sucks up a substantial amount of MP to cast. Thought these spells are flashier than the basic spells, the damage they inflict is only a little more potent but IMO not worth the MP.

There is a spell that is an exception however and that is Starfall. 😎👍🏿 Starfall can incinerate undead outright without them being stilled. This spell even low tier renders anyone capable of casting it an exceptional force against Phantom (undead) and Zombified units. Thus anyone capable of casting Starfall should have in their arsenal. If anyone has anything to add or critique feel free to chime in. 😎👍🏿


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 5d ago

PC Controls Question

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First off, just wanna say I am loving revisiting this game. I played it back when it first came out, and I was just a dumb kid, so I'm excited to stink my teeth in now that I'm supposedly a big smart adult.

Speaking of being a big smart adult, I can't figure out some control stuff with mouse and keyboard (I'm playing on PC).

In the shop, how do I view which classes can equip which weapons easily? There should be a little sub-menu, I believe, but I don't see it anywhere in the Options.

Also, at what point can I buy Concentrate for my Enchantress, dangit!? I wanna put people to sleep!

Thanks all!


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 6d ago

Ogre Battle: Legend of the Zenobia Prince - Neo Geo Pocket Color - English translation

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r/Tactics_Ogre • • 7d ago

Tactics Ogre Wizard and Warrior seem completely pointless as soon as you hit mid game.

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Help me understand when and why you would run either of these classes (outside of a victory condition to get the reward). Warrior has a couple unique skills, but it still feels like quite a lot of other classes out perform him. You want a tank? Get a Hoplite, a Knight, or a White Knight with a shield. You want dps? Get pretty much every other melee class out there. I don't really see a spot where Warrior edges out over other classes.

Wizard is the same issue sort of, except it is completely upscaled by Warlock. Outside of the lizard recruit skill (which several other classes have) Warlock can do everything Wizard can do, plus more weapon option and spell options. I'm sure there is something there, I just don't see what it is.

EDIT: This is for TO Reborn.


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 7d ago

Tactics Ogre - Let Us Cling Together DE V2.5

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Wondering if anyone has seen this romhack?
I found it randomly while looking for different revisions of the original game, it was bundles with all the revisions. No documentation was included at all. I was able to patch with the Aeon Genesis English patch and it hasn't crashed out on me yet.

So far I've only noticed a few differences and can't find any reference material on it.

You don't get a chance to act in the first battle vs Lans and group.
Canopus has Tornado as an ability.
Ranger weapons ranges changed.
Exorcism has a percentage change to hit, exorcises non-stiller undead.
Short bow range is 2-3, down from 2-5.
Ranged crits have knock back(I think that's new? Needs investigation).
Game hangs and gets stuck when Nybbas escapes in the Fort Kadoriga battle.(Maybe emulator error, saved sram and restarted everything, worked without issue).
Sisteena has slightly better Stats when you first see her, higher str and agi.


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 9d ago

Auctioning monsters

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So i was capturing and auctioning unique monsters partly for the unique character quest but alos to unlock all the items and it just occurred to me. When you auction off a dragon or beast, it let's you then buy food that give small permanent stat buffs......

ARE THEY BUTCHING THE MONSTERS I AUCTION OFF AND SELLING THEIR MEAT BACK TO ME TO EAT? WTFFFFFFF.... Some of the dialogue when you auction them is already sad as fuck but man.....


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 10d ago

Question about relic farming

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Hi, I was trying to farm relic drops in POTD today for the first time, and a monster I killed kept dropping a green tarot card despite doing chariot rewind with different actions everytime. Is it useless to do Chariot rewind if the monster drops a tarot card? I tried it like 10 times already and it always dropped a card and not loot.


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 10d ago

Tactics Ogre Question about route hopping and rerecruiting

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In TO Reborn, if I recruit say Deneb or Azelstan in Neutral and then move over to Lawful, do I have to redo their recruitment quests to carry that logic into CODA? And followup, if the former is a Yes, if I go from Neutral to Lawful and then into Chaos (to cover everything) is there any point in bothering with rerecruitment during Lawful (as I'd just have to redo it once again in Chaos)?


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 10d ago

Tactics Ogre Earliest training maps that spawn beasts/dragons? (currently on ch2)

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Playing Reborn and needless to say, been pretty impressed with how much of an absolute unit these guys are on the enemy's side so looking to get some of my own.

I've had a lot of bad luck trying to recruit them in story missions so thought I would give it a shot on some easier maps where things aren't as tense but all the training ones I've been to so far only seem to produce human enemies.


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 12d ago

Monster Abilities and Field Buff Cards

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Which cards should my monsters and dragons pick up to enhance their special attacks? Are dragon and beast breath attacks considered spells so they benefit from Magic buff cards, for example?

Please forgive me if this has been asked before. I can't seem to find a similar post on this subreddit. Thank you!


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 16d ago

ONE VISION ON ANDROID WITH A D6

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who else emulates this game on their phones


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 17d ago

72 hours playing mostly blind.

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Tactis ogre reborn. Still not finished.

Now I realized they are 3 paths and playing neutral might not been the best choise.

Normally I try yo go for the platinum but does this mean I have to do 3 runs to get all trophies?


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 17d ago

One Vision Tactics Ogre One Vision Lord class, dizzy feel like throwing up??

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Hey guys, so this is my first run ever playing the game, never heard of it.

Played the psp version a bit, then found out about One Vision, decided to just start off playing that (the vanilla just had a lot of annoying passives, so finding out that mod tackles a lot of the "weirds" of the game, immediately hyped, no regrets love the game and the mod, a lot!).

Ok so recently I got the Lord class on Denam, I am lvl 23~, and I was leveling Denam as a frontline knight (my only knight), his hammer weapon skill is maxed, no augment element leveled at all. I really liked the "wall" vibe.

Come to find out what Lord is...I am kinda dizzy with all the possibilities lol, yet it's just 10 ability slots lol.

I guess my question is..what do you guys feel are the "must haves/best bang for your buck" given my equipments right now are.."normal nothing crazy kinda stuff". What's the "can't go wrong with these".

I was planning around an "omegadin of the light" so like what knight wishes it was, so frontline support/healer, can't die kinda thing, but I feel like..not playing around an obscene dual weild build, and "combine any armor/weapons" is such a waste of potential in comparison?

But dual wielding hammers I think is bad?? Would have to train another weapon from scratch 😑.

I want whatever makes the game a cakewalk, I like broken op, .."themed builds" are cool, but just broken is fine 😅.

I keep trying guides, but between the three versions of this game, and that a lot of things...changed I think?? My phalanx makes purple ghosts, not...increases defense?? I am kinda lost.

Just general tips are ok, I am at the start of chapter 4 sort of, I got recently the recipes for some elemental weapons..so..torn if "light element hammer build/healer buffer"...or is that bad damage/value to even bother with??

Monk is already pretty good, is Lord being a meh hybrid tanky dpsish cleric really...worth it?

The things I feel are cool

Meditate

Art of War (for movement issues, and Decoy)

Divine Magic

Draconic Magic - maybe??

Field Alchemy II

Tactician for tp gain

Not sure what's the best TP move, Tabula Rasa to shed off debuffs I guess??

Thanks for any advice.


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 18d ago

Tactics Ogre Seeking Guidance for Jumping Back into Reborn Spoiler

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I played through Choas path (pretty sure) like 3 or 4 years ago and got to the end game. Did a lot of the Palace of the Dead and some of the other endgame side quests. I am pretty sure I didn't actually finish the game.

I'm thinking about getting back into it. I think my options are (1) jump into my endgame stuff, try to reread the important backstory from the Warren report, and either (1a) tackle Palace of the Dead or (2a) just finish out the story then use the function to jump back to the beginning of the story and pursue the Law route; or (2) just start a new save file.

Do folks with more experience with the game have a suggestion? I am not particularly spoiler-averse, so feel free to speak frankly about the options here.


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 19d ago

Tactics Ogre Assistance with Cheat Engine for TO: R

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Hey all, sorry to ask, but I am struggling with a relatively minor issue.

I'm a new dad that wants to replay Tactics Ogre via Reborn, but I found that the game isnt like the older ones that I played and I cannot rename Denam until I beat the game once. I wanted to get around that, and found out about Cheat Engine, which gave me another idea, but I cannot figure out how to do either. I am hoping for guidance here.

1) How would I change Denam's name? I can't find it. Is there some simple guide for this?

2) Probably harder, but I would like Preempt on the Lord class. Is there a way to do that?

Thank you!


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 20d ago

Tactics Ogre Planning a route for an ultimate run

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With Reborn's time hop and ability to play multiple routes on a single save, I was trying to think of the best way to play through the game and recruit everyone/optimize special classes. I'm thinking the best option is to probably start pure Law and get the Lord ending so that Denam gets his special class. Then go all the way back to when the Neutral path opens and play through it until you recruit Ehlrig (I believe he's the latest neutral only recruit). Afterwards, swap all the way back to the beginning of Chaos at the start of chapter 2 and play all the way through until princess ending. Since you should have both Canopus and Gildas at the end of Law Lord, can probably do Iuria before swapping to Neutral.

New plan: Start Neutral Princess so that Catiua is in party and able to start gaining stat cards. Swap to Law Lord to get Denam his special class and all Law unique recruits. CODA1 to get Iuria. Swap to Chaos Princess. CODA+

I think this optimizes classes and avoids the major loyalty character problems. And as stated below, I personally think of Chaos as the true route, so I want it to be the final plot anchors that everything is built off.

EDIT: Completely changed theory based on discussion in the thread.


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 22d ago

Let's Play Archive of Tactics Ogre - LUCT

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Screenshot Lets Play games have a soft spot in my heart. Yes I can watch a video of a guy chatting for 20 hours in background browser, but for me, I miss forums and the community chat of the old school Lets Play.

https://lparchive.org/Tactics-Ogre-Let-Us-Cling-Together/

Several years ago, a user named Tithin did a SSLP for Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together for the PSP. He got all the way through the Lawful route, and then burnt out. I picked up the post game CODA over a very long time line and after years and years, we finally got this thing finished and submitted.

The PSP version is different with some mechanics, most notoriously crafting and levelling, but the story does not change from PSP to Reborn.

If you've ever say beaten the game on Neutral or Chaos, but never Law, check it out. If you burnt out trying to get through the massive post game or never understood the unintuitive flags required for the post game, maybe check it out as well.

You should consider this Lets Play very spoiler heavy as we go through all of the law route in the main game, and then the entire post game story, only missing some of the most grindy items like all the optional super bosses.

Mods, hopefully this doesn't count as self promotion, I reached out a few months ago and never got a response back.


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 22d ago

Tactics Ogre Beginner tips

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Just started Tactics Ogre: Reborn and was wondering if there’s anything I should know early on.

I’d especially appreciate some tips about combat and how to build a party. Like, what kind of units/classes should I have in my team, what should I focus on when putting a party together, and any general combat tips I should know?

Anything I should avoid doing? I’m trying to figure things out on my own, but don’t want to make any major mistakes.


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 22d ago

Tactics Ogre [Spoiler] Stop this lunacy!! Spoiler

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This probaby gets posted many times over the years because yes it's that shocking.

Thanks to the internet, I know what this is about and what the consequences for either are. But the writers had got to be insane to create this scenario. I wouldn't even do this in GTA, why the f would I......and to get rewarded with better storytelling and classes for it? Fck no. Plus, if it hadn't been recommended by guides, who in his right mind would play this game, follow the story so far and say yea sure let's waste these mfers because I'm worse than my father's killer anyway and this is what I do.

It doesn't even make sense from a design perspective. The game is 1 hour in (if you don't grind) and Denam had barely grown and evolved. We didn't even know his motivations well enough. It's just too early for this type of game changing decisions.

Anyway...yea. I need a minute. Still a great game tho.


r/Tactics_Ogre • • 23d ago

Tactics Ogre I have no idea why I did this

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But they've called off the invasion lads. Ironically this was all done in Balmamusa, so I guess this was technically the second 'deathmarch' it has experienced....