r/stupidpeoplefacebook • u/Numerous_Creme_8988 • 9h ago
We should condemn both? Is that what you are suggesting, David?
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u/DW171 7h ago
So I had to investigate a little ...
Obama used tax dollars to convert the existing tennis court into a tennis/basketball court. The rough cost was $8000, not including the savings from not moving Secret Service to an outside location (like a golf course)
Trump's tacky ballroom is expected to cost around $600 million, with about $307 million expected to come from taxpayers.
The Independent estimates Trump's golf outings (22% of his days in office) during his second term cost taxpayers approx $200 million
Do MAGA trolls really want to go here?
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u/Vorgse 6h ago
It's insane to me how people can compare, essentially, resurfacing a tennis court and adding basketball hoops, to building a whole-ass ballroom.
Like, your local city's parks department does the former in a week with a bunch of high school & college kids.
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u/Grumpy-24-7 6h ago
...adding basketball hoops, to TEARING DOWN THE EAST WING AND building a whole-ass ballroom.
-FTFY
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u/Designer_Mud_5802 7h ago
"So what you're saying is.... both parties are the same"
-"Independents"
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u/KeyInitiative8805 6h ago
Undecided voters are well known in academia and political science circles to be the most uninformed, illiterate, and dumbest voters of the electorate.
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u/Educational_Plum3908 5h ago
I would have once believed that, but now they're the second most uninformed and unintelligent portion of the electorate.
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u/KeyInitiative8805 5h ago
I get what you're saying, but disagree. MAGA voters are just clear in who they hate and want to get one over on them. Like, they know their peckerwood prince is awful, but are happy his policies are screwing over others just slightly more than themselves.
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u/ProfPlumInTheLibrary 3h ago
No. Misinformation is worse than no information. MAGAs actively believe false things that undecideds are too apathetic to have an opinion on. These days MAGAS are certainly more uninformed than a Rip Van Winkle who has been asleep for 50 years and woke up yesterday.
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u/Top-Average412 7h ago
Sure, he is a pedophile rapist conman, but she laughs funny
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u/bobabeep62830 4h ago edited 4h ago
I know, right? Sure she's intelligent, qualified and capable, but a woman with a real sense of humor? Dear Lord, she doesn't even make fun of disabled people! It's like she isn't even human!
Edit: spelling. Autocorrect's AI isn't quite the SI we were told of.
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u/imtooldforthishison 5h ago
Obama did not use tax dollars for the tennis/basketball court. The Obama's paid for that out of pocket. Easily verifiable.
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u/Effective-Turn-9103 5h ago
I didn’t know about the bball court, know why? because it literally was built using an existing tennis court, no destruction or construction needed.
I know about the ballroom, know why? cuz the jackass bulldozed the god damn east wing like a fuckin Nazi or Putin bitch ass woulda done without any approval.
fuck these whataboutism and gaslighting lil fuckin hoes! im ready for their god damn lies, grifts, and crimes to be exposed and let them rot in jail with their shitty big mac fake ass meat meals
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u/MuhfugginSaucera 4h ago
But the libs have blue hair! Did you see the blue hair? I am simply being forced to vote against the interests of my own nation and countrymen! You forced our hand, we didn't have a choice but to vote for the con man!
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u/txkwatch 5h ago
My understanding is it is portable or removable basketball goals and some lines painted on the court and that's about it.
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u/RecipeFunny2154 7h ago
Yup. Also, we should all remember that originally the ballroom was supposed to be around $300 million and it wasn’t supposed to involve tax money at all. Trump repeatedly said it was all donations.They’re not even comparable.
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u/TheSleazyAccount 3h ago
Obama used tax dollars....
Also important to point out that Obama used money from the preapproved and already funded annual White House maintenance budget. No additional tax dollars were required for his basketball court.
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u/Dseltzer1313 7h ago
That vile and evil Obama even wore a tan suit. Unamerican, bordering on Antichrist behavior
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u/Dramatic_Explosion 3h ago
Do MAGA trolls really want to go here?
They do, because they know it won't matter. Trumpers laugh when it "owns" Democrats, and they ignore anything that doesn't.
It is literally never worth engaging with MAGA, because they're either trolls or idiots, and nothing you say will change anything in their mind.
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u/Wonderful-Variation 9h ago edited 9h ago
A fucking basketball court is much less expensive a fucking ballroom. Moreover, Obama didn't pay for things by kicking people off healthcare and cutting public services, so whatever spending he did is inherently less offensive.
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u/Cheese__Weiner 8h ago
He also didn't tear anything down to build it ....
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u/Uncle_Blayzer 8h ago
He put a portable basketball hoop on the existing Tennis court, lmao.
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u/Exciting-Ad-6551 8h ago
That probably cost like $500! The ball room is estimated to cost just under $1 billion. Clearly we can see which president is better with money! /s
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u/ThelIIusion0fSeIf 8h ago
WHAT?! TRUMP DOUBLED THE NATIONAL DEBT TO $40T DUE TO AN UNNECESSARY WAR AND SPENDING ON HIS OWN VANITY PROJECTS?!
Oh yeah, well....what about that library book Obama forgot to return in 1982 which cost $6 in late fees?
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u/waytowill 8h ago
Notice how nobody’s gunning after Truman for building a bowling alley in the White House.
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u/Walter-Orenthal 8h ago
I could forgive the library book, but what makes it go over the edge was the tan suit.
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u/Friendly-One-6965 9h ago
Yeah I remember when Obama tore half of the white house down to install a basketball court. WTaF?
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u/OddOutcome0 9h ago
You mean the basketball court that was a tennis court with painted lines and wheel off basketball hoops
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u/Last_Cod_998 9h ago
Melania refurbished the tennis court. How much did that cost?
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u/OddOutcome0 9h ago edited 8h ago
Probably not as much as tearing down the east wing or paving the rose garden, or putting trumps name on the jfk center, or a gold triumph arch, or building a ballroom, or painting a reflection pool twice or a war with Iran
But a hell of a lot more than to temporarily convert a tennis court into a basketball court
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u/AventineAstartes 9h ago
Conservatives are so fucking stupid it's almost hysterical. For instance, they think Sydney Sweeney can act.
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u/Different_Tangelo511 9h ago
Its not stupidity at this point. They're nazis and fascists larping as idiots.
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u/AnonymousCoupleFun 8h ago
I’m confused, which is common i suppose, but how does one compare the refurbishing of a tennis court to a single side (from what i understand) basketball court that used 1/7th the annual renovation and refurbishing budget allotment to a gilded ballroom that required demolition of one portion of the Whitehouse grounds and cost 2000 times the previously stated budgeted allotment and wasn’t approved by Congress, has ballooned in cost on 3 different occasions and has been said to be paid by either tax payers, political donations, or something else?
Like o said I’m confused so clarifications would help if I’m incorrect on anything.
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u/BigGayGinger4 7h ago
if i am elected president, i am building a presidential fitness complex at the white house
with basketball, golf, racquetball, tennis, squash, BUT NOT PICKLEBALL, blackjack, and hookers
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u/S2Krlit_Fever 8h ago
Maga is mad because they consider basketball to be a sport for black people and they see it as a stain on the white house's image of "purity". If he would've added an extra kitchen or an extra board room, this wouldn't be s point of contention. They're mad that a black president immortalized his legacy in the Whitehouse in a way which preserves the culture of black America. They don't see basketball as American culture. They see it as black culture.
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u/TheLayerLinguist 7h ago
Eh they are racist but don't give them too much credit. No thought was put into this.
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u/Vsove 9h ago
Obama's basketball court cost under 100K.
This is already well north of 300 million.
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u/CU_09 8h ago
Obama also personally paid for the basketball court. Trump pays for nothing.
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u/TootieSummers 9h ago
It wouldn’t surprise me if the ballroom cost a 10th of that and the rest was funneled into some shit stained size 48 waist with a balloon seat pants
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u/Ok_Neighborhood_5046 9h ago edited 6h ago
I didn’t even know there was a basketball court made, probably because it’s small and insignificant, which is the opposite of that tacky-ass ballroom. If you’re gonna waste taxpayer dollars, at least have a competent interior designer.
Edit: guys I am pro- Obamas self-funded tennis court and I am anti- trumps stupid ballroom. And nothing I said implies that Obama used taxpayer dollars, I was making a joke that the ballroom is going to be fugly like trump has made the white house interior already.
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u/HoldAutomatic2088 8h ago
It’s wasn’t even “made”. It was an existing tennis court that they painted basketball lines on and then set some wheel off hoops on. All of which Obama paid for with his own money so it cost the taxpayers absolutely nothing.
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u/dreadpiratefezzik42 8h ago
But he wore tan shorts with a Bull’s jersey. Shoulda impeached him.
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u/FrostyMudPuppy 8h ago
They painted some extra lines on a pre-existing tennis court and put some hoops in, and it was paid for by the Obama family, not taxpayers.
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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 8h ago
Obama also didn’t literally tear down 1/2 of the Whitehouse in the process.
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u/Jobysco 8h ago
The ballroom demolition alone costs more than a basketball court
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u/CYMK_Pro 8h ago
A standard NBA basketball court measures 4700 square feet of blacktop, with a hoop on a pole at either end. Comparatively, the Trump ballroom will measure more that 90,000 square feet, will be covered in gold trim, and cost taxpayers millions. The idea that these two things are at all the same is batshit insane.
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u/BelBivTebow 8h ago
Obama just put a portable hoop on a existing tennis court and painted lines
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u/gravyjackz 8h ago
How do you libs not understand that is the exact same thing as tearing down the east wing to build a ballroom?!
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u/Eastern-Persimmon-50 8h ago
I think Obama put a driveway type hoop on the tennis court
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u/Intelligent_Sir7732 8h ago
The Obama guy did not build the basketball court for the public, did he? Based on what he told the reporters, it was for his personal exercise and a cost savings for the tax payers. Think about how much it would cost the tax payers if the Obama guy decided to go golfing once. All of the secret service personnel, the security sweeps at the golf course, the perimeter security, etc. Far less expensive for him to stay on the White House grounds where minimal security would be involved, no over time, no extra expense.
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u/DrunkyMcStumbles 8h ago
Obama, like most presidents, did go golfing. He just did it on military bases that didn't require the additional overhead you mentioned.
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u/paws5624 7h ago
I’ve seen where the right talks about how many days Obama went golfing as a criticism of him. First off the number of times is laughable compared to Trump but he also did it a ton at camp David…you know where they have a fully functional facility for the president to work out of. It’s not like he flew several states away to his own private facility where he charged secret service a fortune to stay there
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u/United_Leopard_2771 8h ago
A basket ball court is also, Much smaller than a ballroom, Especially one made for someone like trump which will have a lot of ''gold'' flourishing and about as gaudy tacky and out of touch with reality as one can imagine of someone who's head is still in the middle ages when it comes to how ''kings'' hold court.
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u/paws5624 7h ago
There’s a reason basketball is the sport most often associated with an urban environment. It’s relatively small and cheap to build. I’m sure the one built for Obama was good quality but there’s no way it costs even a tiny fraction of what the ballroom costs.
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u/MattManSD 7h ago
all they did was put up a basket and paint lines on the tennis court
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u/MattManSD 7h ago
and the Hoop Court was just modifying the existing tennis court. Was like 20 grand
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u/Swampy0gre 9h ago
The construction of the basketball court DID NOT REQUIER THE DEMOLITION OF AN ENTIRE WING OF THE WHITE HOUSE
The wing of the Whitehouse which was OVER THE NUCLEAR BUNKER
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u/supercleverid 9h ago
"construction" is also a stretch for the basketball court. He just put up a hoop in the white house tennis court and made the lines with tape.
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u/Cobrakiller_12 9h ago
The Obamas paid for the modifications themselves.
The ballroom is going to cost us almost $1B.
Why is such a large chunk of this country so fucking stupid?
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u/Salty_Penalty3119 8h ago
It’s a prerequisite for all MAGA. You have to be stupid, immature, self centered and chickenshit
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u/DuskGuardNSFW 9h ago
Not to mention it all funnels the money back into his own companies
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u/corruptedsyntax 8h ago
It’s not about cost. It’s not about how many Americans will use it. It is about the president not having unlimited power over reshaping the people’s Whitehouse without the input of the people.
He knocked out an entire wing of the Whitehouse without zero congressional approval so that he could build a massive eyesore meant only to serve as a permanent vanity project that will outlast him and his failed presidency.
The people of the United States would not have approved this. Their Congress would not have approved this. Their Senate would not have approved this. The issue is that we are just letting a mad man run with scissors and tear down our shit with zero pushback.
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u/Final_Location_2626 6h ago
They repurposed a tennis court into a basketball court. Maga tells you it cost millions, but it didn't. It cost about 100k. Expensive, but no where near the $600M that the ballroom is currently expected to cost (and this has increased every month)
Maga is counting the cost of making the tennis court, long before the Obama presidency.
And let's imagine for a second it did cost millions, maybe even billions, like the ballroom. Do you like Obama? Do you want to be like Obama?
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u/0202_tihssitidder 3h ago
The Ballroom has been quoted as free, $100M, $300M, $600M, $1B, and $1.5B
None of the Ballroom was approved. Tearing down that wing was not approved.
The basketball court was approved.
Conservatives are stupid bitches. Fuck all of them. They can eat my dick.
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u/Professional-Wave841 4h ago
it wasn't even 100k, it was $8000, before the savings of not needing the secret service (you know, like Trump when he goes golfing)
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u/Xeno9116 5h ago
Obama paid for the court out of his pocket.
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u/BugOperator 4h ago
And didn’t unilaterally demolish an entire wing of the White House to do it.
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u/Competitive_Tune6401 3h ago
He also constantly invited children and others to come and play which won’t be the same case with the ball room.
Oh wait it’s Trump so maybe kids are allowed.
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u/Dirtgrain 4h ago
And if Obama had golfed every time instead of shooting baskets, well, that court saves us heaps--while Trump costs how much with his golfing?
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u/Wild_Astronaut7090 3h ago
$100k is dirt cheap wtf?!? I know it was awhile ago but, they are like $120k minimum now for a shit slab and a fence
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u/Nothing_from_void 3h ago
every dollar a democrat spends is roughly equal to $1M of republican spending. that's why people who care about the debt only care when a democrat is president
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u/Plastic_Drive_9015 8h ago
Obama didn't build the basketball court. He added some painted lines and two removable hoops to the tennis court and paid for it all himself. He didn't demolish part of a historical monument and use between 600 million and 900 million tax payer dollars.
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u/NetSignal392 8h ago
You know the “basketball court” was two free-standing (not installed into the ground) hoops with lines painted on to a tennis court, right?
No construction/demolition was done at all.
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u/Ok_Community_383 7h ago
The basketball court was important in my opinion. And it showed who Obama is and who America should be. A ball room is the opposite of what America is. And shows us exactly who Trump is
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u/Shionkron 6h ago
One is a game of the common man and the other is for the rich and fabulous to fraternize.
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u/FireAuraN7 6h ago
And as further proof Obama is the better man - he just converted a tennis court out of his on pocket, AND the hoops could be retracted to allow the court to be used for basketball AND tennis.
Obama was in every way leagues better than Trump.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Two7358 9h ago
Those two things are completely comparable. The basketball court cost millions and required the destruction of massive sections of the White House. Even now the hidden missile systems below the basketball court provide ongoing security and protection.
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u/LogicBalm 9h ago
Yeah no kidding! I saw in that one documentary that it's also where Professor Xavier stores the Blackbird!
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u/Thirdwhirly 8h ago
Why the fuck would you condemn the basketball court, OP? Seriously, fucking enough of the both sides shit. Obama paid for it. All of it. It can still be used as its original purpose, a tennis court.
It was done his first and second years in office, too, and it doesn’t have his fucking name on it.
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u/FreshLiterature 3h ago
Why should we condemn both? What historic part of the White House did Obama tear down to build it while lying about it the whole time?
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u/Youcants1tw1thus 1h ago
He painted a basketball lines on an existing tennis court, with permission. Republicans are mind numbingly stupid with this talking point they parrot.
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u/EtheusRook 9h ago
Fun fact. During Obama's first term, Trump got super mad that Obama rejected his offer to build a WH ballroom. Because, you know, that would be a fucking awful look right off of the 2008 financial crisis.
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u/golfwinnersplz 8h ago
If I'm not mistaken the Obama's paid for the basketball court and it was something around 50k.
Nuance has the left the GOP for a long time.
They post the dumbest shit over and over.
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u/Sophisticated-Crow 9h ago
False equivalency logical fallacy, a favorite of chuds.
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u/MaxAdolphus 9h ago
How dare Obama waste taxpayer money on some paint and a portable basketball hoop. That’s dozens of dollars wasted! DOZENS!
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u/DrunkyMcStumbles 8h ago
Obama got 2 of those movable hoops. They painted some more lines on the existing tennis court. And they did in fact host tournaments for local teams.
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u/Mixelphlick 8h ago
The basketball court that cost next to nothing and didn’t demolish existing parts of the building? That basketball court?
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u/Golbar123 9h ago
This is like comparing me putting 8 pavers in my back yard to tearing down my garage to build an airplane hanger…
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u/Significant-Order-92 9h ago
I mean no one really championed Obama's basketball court as necessary for national pride or diplomacy. Most people were just like "ok, whatever" and that was the end of it.
Said championing of the Ballroom as somehow for the American people is the context around pointing out most will never be in it.
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u/BrazenGamer 8h ago
Basketball court cost between 50,000 and 100,000. The ballroom is going to be between 600 million to 900 million by some estimates. Yeah that's a fair comparison. They also didn't have to tear down a third of the White House to build it.
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u/Gh05t_0n3_5150 8h ago
His basketball hoop didn’t tear down a whole wing of the building plus an iconic rose garden. If he wanted to build a basketball stadium then you can use this argument
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u/ford2black 8h ago
Building a basket ball court not equal to building a grand ballroom ....Just dumb. Waste of money
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u/RabidJoint 8h ago
Obama didn’t tear down 1/3 of the White House either. These people are just looking for any answer to kiss Trumps ass
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u/RememberJefferies 8h ago
Obama basketball court cost under 50k not 600 million, and more importantly was paid for with Obamas personal funds and NOT TAXPAYER MONEY!
I wish i could believe these idiots can't legit be this dumb.
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u/lilbitze 8h ago
I mean one of em required you to tear down a history and protected part of the white house. Rose gardens gone too. White house can build stuff but you gotta follow the zoning laws.
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u/Both_Painter2466 6h ago
It wasn’t a half billion dollar basketball court. And ⅓ of the white house wasn’t torn down to have it
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u/SourLemons2 8h ago
Who can blame Obama for being bored by a bowling ally built by Truman, updated by Nixon & Clinton. Basketball is cool!
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u/brotherhoodzero 8h ago
Did he tear down part of the White House to build this Basketball Court?
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u/AshtonBlack 8h ago
One of them was paid for by the President in an already established place; no demolition needed, and it can easily and cheaply be removed if not needed.
They are not the same thing at all, David.
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u/N-Toxicade 7h ago
Because the basketball court installation costed tax payers almost half a billion dollars and destroyed the East Wing of the White House.....oh wait that is the fucking ballroom.
What was destroyed to put the basketball court in? The edges of a tennis court...
These people are so fucking disingenuous with their bullshit.
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u/SuperKami-Nappa 9h ago
I’ve never heard anyone use that particular complaint about the ballroom.
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u/firejonas2002 8h ago
The “basketball” court they love to harp on so much was a tennis court that had been there for years prior to the Obama’s, and Obama paid for the hoop himself. 😂
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u/Maleficent_Memory831 8h ago
I find it hilarious that they use the face of Sydney Sweeney as the voice of "reason".
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u/bwsmith201 8h ago
They put up a hoop and painted different lines on an already-present tennis court. Totally the same as hundreds of millions of dollars. These people are insane.
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u/CantModerateMe 8h ago
The "basketball court" was literally just a basketball hoop installed at the existing tennis court
do these idiots think that was a project that took more than one random dude an aftenoon of casual work?
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u/metal_bastard 8h ago
Obama converted a tennis court into a multi-purpose court. Roosevelt installed the original court in the early 1900s.
Obama only added hoops, painted basketball court markings, and kept the court usable for tennis. Kind of like a high school gym that has markings for basketball and volleyball...
I should probably also mention it was privately funded.
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u/SvartrKukkSceand 7h ago
He didnt "build a basketball court". He had some very minor modifications made to the Tennis court that allowed it to be USED as a basketball court AS WELL.
It also didnt cost 3/4 of a billion dollars, illegally destroyed a building he had no right to destroy, etc.
Stupid COnservicunt false equivalences and whataboutism.
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u/OG-BigMilky 7h ago
Cost of ballroom vs Cost of Basketball Court?
Comparing diamond encrusted apple to plain old oranges.
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u/Legitimate-Simple-20 7h ago
I think Obama didn't destroy the whole east wing and also made sure his basketball court could easily be removed by the next president. every president added something he wanted to the white house. Carter put solar panels on it's roof and got a lot of shit about it too, but he was just ahead of his time.
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u/Temporary_View_3303 7h ago
Obama didn’t build a basketball court. He took the existing tennis courts and converted them to dual use for tennis AND basketball. It cost $75K. Staff and guests got to use it so I’m going to bet that’s more people than will use a ballroom.
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u/Not_the_name_I_chose 3h ago
You mean the temporary basketball court that was easily removed and left no changes?
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u/Loose-Recognition459 9h ago
How much did the basketball court cost, David?