r/screenshots • • May 30 '26

Humor Are we serious?

"Was this worth your time?"

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u/thekinkyspectar May 31 '26

You’re right but people stop using google ai as proof of stuff, that thing sometimes just throws random shit out as fact like when it said pregnant women can smoke or drink.

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u/EllieElmoe May 31 '26

hot take: my bet is that ai says stupid shit like that because it saw an article saying some kind of stupid shit like that. it repeats what it sees on the web.

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u/thekinkyspectar May 31 '26

I mean that’s not a hot take that’s the truth, that’s the whole reason I’m saying what I am. I’ve even been affected by it when it used unrelated Reddit threads to answer a question I had. Thats the exact reason you should not be using it as proof.

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u/EllieElmoe May 31 '26

I think that just means that you should take any information you get with a grain of salt and do a deep dive of research beforehand, just like if youre getting advice from a person. For as many times ai has misled me, people have also mislead me, but nobody likes to talk about that.

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u/OfficialDrakoak May 31 '26

Thats exactly why this person is saying you shouldnt be using AI screenshot as evidence to make at a point lol

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u/EllieElmoe May 31 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

Oh come on. EVERYONE knows vaping isnt safe. Even the ai. If you don't like ai, just say that. But clearly, its given some sensible reasons on why vaping isnt safe, that's actually backed up by science.

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u/OfficialDrakoak May 31 '26

Nobody here is saying it is safe. The point is even if youre correct about something you deligitimize your own point and many people will ignore it when they see the AI screenshot. For the reasons you yourself stated in your last comment before this one that im replying to.

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u/EllieElmoe May 31 '26

I don't think a point is illegitimate if a person uses ai to summarize a deep dive that they already know, which is what I was doing. Additionally, not everyone has quick access to an article, because they have stuff to do. Most intelligent people are aware of this. If some idiots think common knowledge is now illegitimate just because an artificial intelligence said it, that isn't really my issue, is what im trying to say. Everyone with two cents and half a brain knows that vaping is in no way safe. A few articles I skimmed over said that vapes have a risk of overheating and possibly exploding, more likely catching on fire, which is obviously an instant casuality if you're inhaling the thing while its overheating, or in the same vicinity when it starts to incinerate. Ai was meant to be an accessible tool, but if one is really interested, they can do a deep dive themselves. And clearly, anyone saying a vape is safe hasn't done a deep dive either.

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u/forgotacc May 31 '26

Do you know? Because you wouldn't use AI to "summarize," this information. AI can be incredibly bias and just pull up whatever you want it to, it can give you the answers you want. If you literally knew, you wouldn't need AI to summarize it for you - you would have your own legitimate sources to back up whatever claim you're attempting to make.

People use AI because it's easier than you personally doing the research yourself on the topic. So, please, don't act as if you did such a "deep dive," or are some sort of expert on the subject when you rely so heavily on AI doing the work for you.

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u/EllieElmoe May 31 '26 edited May 31 '26

Let's use our common sense here. Nobody, except this person in the screenshot, thinks smoking or vaping is safe. There is no deep dive needed for that. What's wrong with you? I never said I was an expert, I said i have researched the subject before and was using ai as a quick way to show that even something considered "unreliable" agrees that smoking is unsafe.

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u/DandeyFlour May 31 '26

People talk about that all the time???? What do you MEAN???? you have to do your own research, that's always said. You can't take word of mouth and you can't rely on human made tech designed to do what a human does??? Click on at least 3 articles... Make sure they're not copy paste, and go about your education.

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u/EllieElmoe May 31 '26

I don't know why you seem so angry about it. Isn't that big of a deal imo.

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u/DandeyFlour May 31 '26

It is a big deal, having to leave my house and be forced to converse with human bots is tiring. I wish education actually helped people but people don't want to be educated 😭😭😭

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u/EllieElmoe May 31 '26

I hate to be that person but being angry at a random redditor over it won't get you very far. I have nothing to do with "human bots" And no one is forcing you to communicate with "human bots". If you dont want to communicate, that has nothing to do with me. I suggest you just ignore "human bots" if they bother you that much. Also, "human bots" are the result of too much education and lack of empathy. so, not much sense in that, anyway.

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u/never-ever-wrong May 31 '26

Fun fact, Google has plans to move to a sole ai process. Where there will no longer be links to click through on your own, and only being able to “discuss” what you’re looking for with the ai.

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u/DandeyFlour May 31 '26

Cool, download duckduckgo or something else. You don't need Google.

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u/WorkingSpecialist257 Jun 01 '26

We have the whole world in the palm of our hands and we fucked it up

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u/DandeyFlour Jun 01 '26

I find that its extremely accurate, you're just used to the AI pop up at the top that Google has slowly implemented on us before it was actually established as AI.

People aren't used to actually clicking on articles and websites, you're used to a guide that does it for you. That's the issue. Also, there's more than duckduckgo that was just my suggestion because it's what I use.

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u/Deltamelo Jun 01 '26

Fun fact, they are not removing links

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u/never-ever-wrong Jun 01 '26

Oh, I see what you did there. I said “fun fact” and stated a thing. And then YOU said “fun fact” and stated the OPPOSITE thing.

Does the wit of reddit know no bounds?!?!?

All sarcasm aside though, I was just sharing info from a thing I read about Google wanting to do that. Will they? Who knows. Are they considering it, or at least saying they are? Yes. Do you know more than everyone else on Reddit? I’m sure you believe so. Do I care enough to discuss this with you any further? No.

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u/Deltamelo Jun 01 '26

Show me where Google says they are removing links entirely

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u/never-ever-wrong Jun 01 '26

Why would I take the time to find the article I read a week ago for you, when you apparently can’t read. I pretty clearly stated I had no desire to continue this conversation. Couldn’t have been more clear really. I mean, I literally said I didn’t care enough about it to discuss with you any further. Yet even after saying it again, a couple of times, I’m sure you’ll have more to say. Feel free, but you’ll be talking to yourself.

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u/Character_Tax_8034 Jun 01 '26

I can't tell if you want to continue this conversation or not, can you elaborate further please?

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u/Christine4321 May 31 '26

Its because theres absolutely no qualified data that backs up this hysterical fear mongering over vaping.

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u/thekinkyspectar May 31 '26

There is? There’s even been deaths with fentanyl with laced vape carts

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u/Christine4321 May 31 '26

🙄 Clue is in the word fentanyl. How its dispensed isnt going to stop fentanyl abuse. Best ban cakes as some idiots put mushrooms in them.

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u/Nostonica May 30 '26

My pet theory is that we will see a whole host of new cancer patients, but it will be certain flavours that create the most risk.

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u/bassman314 May 31 '26

I think there were some rumors that some vapes were using diacetyl to get a softer flavor.

It’s the same chemical used for fake butter. Perfectly safe when you eat it. Deadly when you inhale it directly into your lungs…

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u/EnvironmentalGift257 May 31 '26

It was self-banned by the industry in around 2014 and nobody has used it since. Popcorn lung was then used by the tobacco companies and the FDA to pass regulations which handed the entire industry to big tobacco. Since then the only incidents I've seen of popcorn lung came from sketchy Chinese THC vapes.

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u/kikiacab Jun 01 '26

Those weren’t even popcorn lung, it was lung disease caused by counterfeit vape cartridges containing vitamin E acetate

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u/Lanif20 May 31 '26

That was phased out years ago

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u/Biffingston Jun 02 '26

Depends, as they say the dose makes the poison. And I'm not a scientist so anything I'd answer would be speculation.

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u/MuchOpening8559 Jun 02 '26

Formaldehyde is a preservative so the “ONLY” side-effect would be a longer life….right?

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u/theresthatbear Jun 03 '26

I don’t know how to tell you this so I recommend you Google all the ways you are exposed to formaldehyde and all the industries that use it.

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u/Endscrypt May 31 '26

Diacetyl has been banned in the U.K. since 2016.

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u/Kevdog824_ Jun 03 '26

“You got the cotton candy cancer or the unicorn barf cancer? Heard they’re the worst!”

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u/kikiacab Jun 01 '26

People just say any bullshit that comes to mind

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u/StalinsMonsterDong Jun 01 '26

It would have to be, nicotine has never been shown to cause cancer (just tar from smoke inhalation).

Vaping is objectively better for you than smoking. Just try going from smoking a pack a day to only vaping and you will notice immediately. Im not saying it's good for you, but it is nowhere near as bad as smoking, especially if you buy high quality juice.

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u/Biffingston Jun 02 '26

Saying vaping is safer than smoking is like saying, "This shit tastes better than that shit." It may be objectively true, but you probably shouldn't be eating it anyway.

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u/StalinsMonsterDong Jun 02 '26

Except it literally is. There has not been a single study linking nicotine to causing cancer. Smoking is bad for you because you are inhaling tar, vaping is not smoke.

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u/Biffingston Jun 02 '26

That does not mean it's good for you. "Better" is relative.

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u/StalinsMonsterDong Jun 02 '26

No one is claiming it is good for you.

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u/Biffingston Jun 02 '26

"I'm not claiming that, I'm just strongly implying it."

Really?

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u/Paid002 Jun 02 '26

He said it’s better then smoking bozo

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u/Biffingston Jun 03 '26

Found the guy who mistakes vaping for having a personality.

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u/Paid002 Jun 04 '26

Found the guy who mistakes arguing and being miserable on Reddit for having a personality

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u/StalinsMonsterDong Jun 04 '26

The first comment I made literally said "I am not claiming its good for you" idk how you got the opposite meaning from that but okay I guess

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u/Last_Setting_3176 Jun 04 '26

Nicotine is no worse for you than caffeine, unless you consume an obscene amount. My psychiatrist, who is an expert at brain chemistry said that if nicotine didn’t have the stigma from cigarettes, they’d be giving it to kids for ADHD.

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u/SSSllmJiimmm Jun 02 '26

Chronically inhaling anything other than air is generally not good for you. You just weren't made to do it. Eventually, it can cause adaptation of your cells which can increase the risk of mutation and cancer. It should be clarified whether you're talking about the delivery mechanism (vape) or the chemicals delivered.

I'll say, a similar thing (that it's mostly or completely safe) was believed about weed for a while until we got more data. It would be wise to avoid absolute statements about a relatively new question.

I believe some data is out there already about certain tongue and throat cancers, but obviously nothing super concrete bc then we'd probably all know about it via the usual talking points.

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u/Grounds4TheSubstain May 31 '26

Why haven't we seen it yet? Some people get cancer after smoking for as little as a few years. Vaping has been around more than two decades

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u/NoMention696 Jun 01 '26

Google popcorn lung, it’s already starting

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u/Imthewienerdog Jun 01 '26

Awww you are to cute.

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u/Grounds4TheSubstain Jun 01 '26

I tried to link to the UK's NHS website, but my comment was removed because this subreddit has a "no external links" policy. This text comes from the UK NHS:

Myth 7: Vaping causes 'popcorn lung'
Fact
Vaping does not cause "popcorn lung", the common name for a rare disease called bronchiolitis obliterans.

The disease was found in a group of factory workers exposed to a chemical (diacetyl) used to flavour popcorn.
Diacetyl is contained in cigarette smoke, but it is banned as an ingredient in UK-regulated nicotine vapes and e-liquids.

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u/ReasonableFall177 Jun 01 '26

This is why I use clear vape juice. While the vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol ould certainly be dangerous, I am far more scared about the HUGE list of different flavoring chemicals used. For the flavor-enjoyers, the math is not on their side.

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u/rraattbbooyy May 30 '26

Turns out anyone who thinks vaping is safe is absolutely ignorant. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Exile4444 May 30 '26

Here can we just restart planet earth at this point?

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u/Doja_Gnat May 31 '26

Technically you kinda are made of stars and dinosaurs already so, yeah…not much comfort but nice to think about anyway

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u/dick-penis Jun 02 '26

What’s dangerous about it?

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u/rraattbbooyy Jun 02 '26

The Inhalation of Harmful Chemicals Can Cause Irreversible Lung Damage and Lung Disease

In January 2018, the National Academies of Science, Engineering and Medicine1 released a consensus study report that reviewed over 800 different studies.

That report made clear: using e-cigarettes causes health risks. It concluded that e-cigarettes both contain and emit a number of potentially toxic substances. The Academies' report also states there is moderate evidence that youth who use e-cigarettes are at increased risk for cough and wheezing and an increase in asthma exacerbations.

A study from the University of North Carolina found that the two primary ingredients found in e-cigarettes—propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin—are toxic to cells and that the more ingredients in an e-liquid, the greater the toxicity.

E-cigarettes produce a number of dangerous chemicals including acetaldehyde, acrolein, and formaldehyde. These aldehydes can cause lung disease, as well as cardiovascular (heart) disease.

E-cigarettes also contain acrolein, a herbicide primarily used to kill weeds. It can cause acute lung injury and COPD and may cause asthma and lung cancer.

Both the U.S. Surgeon General and the National Academies of Science, Engineering and Medicine have warned about the risks of inhaling secondhand e-cigarette emissions, which are created when an e-cigarette user exhales the chemical cocktail created by e-cigarettes.

In 2016, the Surgeon General concluded that secondhand emissions contain, "nicotine; ultrafine particles; flavorings such as diacetyl, a chemical linked to serious lung disease; volatile organic compounds such as benzene, which is found in car exhaust; and heavy metals, such as nickel, tin, and lead."

The Food and Drug Administration has not found any e-cigarette to be safe and effective in helping people who use tobacco products to quit.

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u/dick-penis Jun 02 '26

Is that ChatGPT?

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u/rraattbbooyy Jun 02 '26

It’s from the American Lung Association, but this sub doesn’t allow links to outside sources.

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u/dick-penis Jun 02 '26

Oh tobacco bought them out 50 years ago.

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u/rraattbbooyy Jun 02 '26

Right. Cancer only kills people who believe in it. You’re good, bro. 👍🏼

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u/dick-penis Jun 02 '26

Do you want to change the subject to that instead of what we were talking about? If so, I’m out.

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u/Intelligent-Ant-5681 Jun 03 '26

Oh man, I had no idea it was so bad. I quit cigarettes for vaping but I'm switching back to cigarettes tonight

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u/EnvironmentalGift257 May 31 '26

Which is what big tobacco used to take over the industry, raise the nicotine content, and prevent vaping from being a smoking cessation tool. Vaping has always been safer than smoking. The only valid debate was whether it was 98% or 99% safer.

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u/rraattbbooyy May 31 '26

“The only debate was whether it was 98% or 99% safer” is revisionist history. Most experts agreed vaping was likely less harmful than smoking, but there was never a consensus that it was virtually risk-free. The actual debate was how much safer it was and what long-term health risks we hadn’t discovered yet.

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u/EnvironmentalGift257 May 31 '26

Hmm, you call my comment revisionist history then agree with every word I said. What was the point of this reply?

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u/rraattbbooyy May 31 '26

Safer? Yes.

98-99% safer? Bullshit.

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u/Deedeethecat2 May 31 '26

I don't know why you're you are being downvoted. The early literature shows that there are similar and different risks to vaping. So far, vaping appears to be less harmful than cigarettes. But it's not 99% safer.

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u/r4almF1re May 31 '26

Everytime I do research on this subject it's always the same. Sarcasm and I don't knows.

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u/Jealous_Corgi_2168 May 31 '26

First slide is a real person with real knowledge, and the second slide is ai hallucinations.

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u/EllieElmoe May 31 '26

What's "knowledgeable" about saying vaping is safe?

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u/Jealous_Corgi_2168 Jun 01 '26

Because it's cool. And when you're cool, people are less likely to attack you, therefore you're safer

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u/EducationalCream9797 Jun 01 '26

Yet ai was right.

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u/Jealous_Corgi_2168 Jun 01 '26

Ai, by definition, can't be right. It's only simulating what it thinks a human would say. You could dump out a can of alphabet soup on the ground and try to find meaning in those combinations of letters too, but you wouldn't go around saying the soup is "right"

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u/EllieElmoe Jun 02 '26

Me when I simulate intelligence:

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u/BigMikeXxxxX May 31 '26

Vaping is safer than cigarettes. So is punching yourself in the balls every hour. Doesn't mean you should do it.

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u/wastedfate May 31 '26

Nah, I knew a lady that died doing that.

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u/BigMikeXxxxX May 31 '26

There's 3 possibilities here. Which one was she doing???

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u/Odd_Ad5668 May 30 '26

I'm sure vaping isn't "safe". The question we haven't answered yet is whether it's safer than smoking actual cigarettes.

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u/Pandelein May 31 '26

It has been answered over and over and over again and the answer is a resounding yes, but non smokers apparently don’t want to hear it.

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u/Odd_Ad5668 Jun 01 '26

It's only about 15 years old, so we could still find out it causes turbo cancer in another 30. I still don't get why anyone would still smoke. I still feel like I'm rolling the dice by vaping, but that's a hell of a lot better than the two headed coin of smoking.

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u/Pandelein Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

The studies have been in for over a decade.
Cell-regeneration testing: tobacco smoke pretty much destroys it, weed slows it down by like 5%, and vape did nothing whatsoever. If it’s not destroying cells or inhibiting regeneration, it’s not likely to cause cancer.
Mystery chemicals? It’s propylene glycol and vegetable glycerine, two things almost everyone gets exposed to, plus some food-grade flavour, and nicotine.
Passive smoke? No, it’s just vapour. Fire risk? No more likely than any other battery powered device.
E-waste? Wouldn’t be nearly as big of an issue if govts stopped fucking around and we could go back to bod/mods instead of these disposable imports.

I’m not going out there saying anyone should start vaping, but I’m goddamn sick to death of governments learning absolutely nothing from past attempts at prohibition: it leads to more dangerous knockoff products to get around the laws, and keeps people smoking the known-to-be-more-harmful cigarettes for longer.

Most major public health bodies now agree that, while vaping is not risk-free, it is substantially less harmful than smoking combustible tobacco because it eliminates tar and the thousands of products of combustion created by burning tobacco. Smoking remains extraordinarily dangerous by comparison.

It’s any two of corruption, incompetence, or bribery from the tobacco lobby. Could be all three.

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u/Eriklano1 Jun 01 '26

It doesn’t matter if it’s true. Don’t smoke, don’t vape, both sucks. It matters if you’re forced to choose one, but you aren’t.

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u/lateformyfuneral May 31 '26

Logically, by not inhaling by-products of tobacco consumption you avoid tar build up in your lungs, carbon monoxide and carcinogenic chemicals like TSNAs which only exist in tobacco. To me the answer is quite clear that no one can find one additive in good-quality e-liquids that remotely approaches the multiple pathways by which cigarette smoke kills you. The risk of vaping is significantly lower than cigarette smoking.

While named brands like Juul tested their product and got FDA approval, they got clamped down on so instead we have no-name Chinese bullshit. Testing reveals they’re crappy quality, and their heating elements release heavy metals into the vapor. That’s not good, but there too it’s worth noting the amount of toxic shit that comes out of a lit cigarette.

If you smoke, vape or switch to nicotine pouches. If you don’t use any nicotine, nothing can be less risky than continuing not to.

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u/jack_from_the_past May 31 '26

I don’t think it’s a one or the other thing. Something can be unsafe without worrying about the other. 

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u/lateformyfuneral May 31 '26

In this case, it is linked because the actual purpose of vaping is to quit cigarettes. So as a substitute for smokers, it’s significantly safer and should be recommended.

With regard to people who currently do neither, obviously it’s not worth taking up vaping.

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u/OfficialDrakoak Jun 01 '26

It definitely matters. Obviously people are always looking for safer alternatives for their vices/habits. Why wouldn't it be relevant how much less harmful it is when were talking about nicotine products lol

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u/CameronsTheName May 30 '26

The problem is that they aren't really mandated in what they are allowed or not allowed to have.

All the ones available in my country (Australia) are illegal imports. Who knows what is actually in those vapes and how they are manufactured. They could put anything in them and the consumer has no idea.

Atleast with cigarettes they are heavily mandated and scrutinized, you can look up everything that's in each brands cigarettes. Plus we have decades of research into the health problems from them. Vapes are pretty new, so even if we knew exactly what was in them we don't know how they'll effect people in 10-20-50 years.

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u/En_TioN May 31 '26

You can get legal vapes in Australia, you just need to chat to your doctor about it. Most people who buy ciggies here anyways are getting black market darts

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u/CameronsTheName May 31 '26

Health.gov.au says that 85% or more vapes that are being used today are illegal imports.

So my point is basically 100% valid. 85% of people vaping and probably the 70% of people smoking have no idea what's actually in the product and can't even look it up because we don't even know if they are legitimate products from overseas or knock offs.

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u/ProjectSoup7383 Jun 03 '26

Well, if you just look at the ingredients of both you can easily deduce which one contains less harmful compounds and chemicals. Its 'safer' in that regard, but inhaling stuff daily that probably shouldnt be there is never 100% safe.

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u/RockTheBloat Jun 03 '26

No, the question we haven’t answered is whether the risks of vaping are significant enough to restrict and regulate it, or how much regulation is appropriate.

You start from the assumption that people are in charge of their own decisions and work from there.

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u/Odd_Ad5668 Jun 05 '26

You can start from that position, but you need to immediately move on to working from the premise that companies will happily use a carcinogen in their product if it will increase their profits, making regulation a necessity.

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u/EllieElmoe May 30 '26 edited May 31 '26

probably not, they just have different affects. from the way vapes are made, id assume that theres more of a brain related and chemical inhalation concern. with smoking, you just slowly rot away your lungs. to each their own, though. edit: tf am i get downvoted for -,-

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u/Disgusting_Slime666 May 31 '26

from the way vapes are made, id assume that theres more of a brain related and chemical inhalation concern

lmfao

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u/Long_Mix2098 May 31 '26

Vaping is still bad, weed used oil from a plant and tobaco needs a special typen of oil so most use glycol which is commonly known as antifreeze. Both are not good in your lungs but not as bad as smoke. Both cause short term irritation and long term damage. Weed vapes are considerably better regulated though and can be much less damaging because of it

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u/Endscrypt May 31 '26

Every country is not the same ie. UK we have TPD a regulated vape market.

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u/Nocebo85 May 31 '26

Do you really think there are people out there that have been vaping antifreeze for 15+ years? Antifreeze usually contains ethylene glycol, vape liquid contains propylene glycol. Propylene glycol can be used as antifreeze in situations where a nontoxic antifreeze is required.
Vaping ethylene glycol is probably worse for you than smoking but I'm just guessing on that one.

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u/Long_Mix2098 May 31 '26

Oh huh, the more you know. I heard at some point that they used glycol and thought "thats what's in my antifreeze concentrate". Good to know that's it's not the same but I know that tobaco vapes are still pretty gross in the US, even if they're not huffing antifreeze lol

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u/UrineFilledAquarium Jun 01 '26

You’re getting downvoted because you come off as an idiot.

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u/EllieElmoe Jun 01 '26

How so, urine filled aquarium?

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u/UrineFilledAquarium Jun 01 '26

It’s been proven over and over and over again that vaping is safer than modern day cigarettes, yet you’re disagreeing with that idea purely on vibes.

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u/EllieElmoe Jun 01 '26

Vaping is equally as bad as cigarettes, its not based of my "vibes" its based off common sense. Its like saying trash is better than garbage, they're both equally negative. And there's nothing idiotic about an observation like that.

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u/UrineFilledAquarium Jun 01 '26

Again, this is why you were downvoted lol. It doesn’t matter if you think it’s common sense, it’s a proven fact that disagrees with you.

“It’s not based off “vibes” it’s based off common sense” is gonna have me rolling for awhile though, so I appreciate that

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u/EllieElmoe Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

Its not that I think it's common sense, its that it is.

I can't believe I have to spell this out, but brain damage (which is what inhaling the chemicals from a vape does) is not better than inhaling carcinogens from a cigarette into your lungs. Chemicals from a vape, such as Diacetyl, Acrolein, Propylene Glycol, Formaldehyde (used in taxidermy.) aren't meant to be inhaled. In fact, I could argue that vaping may be slightly worse. I like how you delete your comment where you insulted me by directly calling me an idiot, that'll also have me rolling considering the irony. I'm not interested in an argument over the semantics of which poison is worse.

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u/UrineFilledAquarium Jun 01 '26

That comment was shadowbanned. Trust me, I would have loved if it stayed up because it represented how I truly feel about you, but unfortunately Reddit will Reddit.

I’m not going to bother arguing your made up fantasies. Trust Johns Hopkins or trust your vibes, I don’t really care. I can’t post it here (thanks again, Reddit) but just google “John Hopkins is vaping worse than smoking”

You’re wrong. Objectively. That’s why people were downvoting you.

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u/EllieElmoe Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

Mocking a standpoint will get you far, I'm sure.

Like I said, I'm not arguing the semantics on which poison is "better" on a post that was originally supposed to be a screenshot poking harmless fun at random ragebait. You have clearly gotten yourself more invested than you should be.

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u/DandeyFlour May 31 '26

The build up glycerin adds up in the mucus and the popcorn lung side effect make it pretty equivalent to cigarettes, just because one doesn't produce tar doesn't mean it's any less healthy, just has its own issues.

Tongues should not burn when smoking something.

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u/Endscrypt May 31 '26

As soon as someone says popcorn lung I know not to listen to anything they say.

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u/DandeyFlour May 31 '26

Why? I learned that term from my doctor, that's how they described the feeling I got after a few months of vaping, once I stopped vaping, the gaps of mucus in my lungs went away.

That's literally how that works, you just don't like what it's called 🤷 that's not my problem.

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u/Endscrypt May 31 '26

I really doubt a medical professional told you vaping caused popcorn lung at least I hope not. Google will tell you everything you need to know about the myth of popcorn lung from vaping. I just checked the NHS this is what they say about Popcorn lung ….

The disease was found in a group of factory workers exposed to a chemical (diacetyl) used to flavour popcorn.

Diacetyl is contained in cigarette smoke, but it is banned as an ingredient in UK-regulated nicotine vapes and e-liquids.

Fact Vaping does not cause "popcorn lung", the common name for a rare disease called bronchiolitis obliterans.

So yeah you should have a word with your doctor.

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u/OfficialDrakoak May 31 '26

The only confirmed cases of popcorn lung linked to vaping were from those bootleg vapes that had diacetyl in it years ago. Nicotine vapes that you get at smoke shop, gas station, store, etc from any normal reputable brand dont contain diacetyl. And theres no cases of bronchiolitis obliterans connected to vaping outside of those diacetyl incedents. Im not here to argue that vaping isnt bad for you or anything, but when anyone mentions popcorn lung within the context of vaping its really silly.

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u/jack_from_the_past May 31 '26

What a cop out answerr

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u/Proud-Canary-2269 May 31 '26

quora is known to be full of bs. you get paid on engagment so if you ragebait you make money. super simple.

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u/EllieElmoe May 31 '26

ah, didnt know that. thanks for sharing.

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u/Deedeethecat2 May 31 '26

As a psychologist with my own smoking addiction (I'm working on it), I can't tell you the number of youth that let me know that there was absolutely no harms to vaping.

I'm not judging what you do, we all make choices that aren't particularly great for our health, especially when we are younger. But let's not pretend that vaping has no health impacts.

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u/fallspector May 31 '26

“Or has a vested interest in the tobacco industry” am I suppose to the believe the tobacco industry doesn’t have a hand in vapes? Cos I’m pretty sure they do.

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u/Red5_StandingDown May 31 '26

"vaping advocate"?

I don't want to live on this planet any more

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u/---Hummingbird--- May 31 '26

Anyone who says anything “is safe, period.” is an idiot

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u/OkBreadfruit2181 Jun 01 '26

So was it worth your time?

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u/EllieElmoe Jun 01 '26

Not really, but at least I learned some new things about smoking and vaping via this subreddit.

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u/realwrlddreamin Jun 01 '26

As someone who vapes, it’s not safe. Don’t try it. You’ll get addicted and have to spend $23-30 a week on shit that gives you COPD.

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u/CraftyPerformance272 Jun 01 '26

Vaping isn't healthy but depending on how much you're vaping it could be a lot more healthy than smoking regular cigarettes. I hate that everyone believes what they see online now. I know someone who would go through one nicotine Vape a month which is about equivalent to 25 cigarettes apparently. He saw online that cigarettes are healthier so he started to smoke about three cigarettes a day instead. I tried to explain that there is no way that going through one or even two Vapes a month is worse for you than smoking literally 90 cigarettes a month. He kept repeating that he heard that vaping causes irreversible damage while smoking cigarettes the damage to your lungs can heal...

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u/Anarchy_Coon May 31 '26

Who cares what the FDA says, vaping is unhealthy because you’re burning liquid and putting it in your lungs.

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u/DandeyFlour May 31 '26

Burning Glycerine into your lungs 😭 it's no healthier than cigarettes. What so ever. Same product different font.

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u/DAemonCayuse May 31 '26

Well, burning tobacco releases hundreds of carcinogens. So while vaping isn't healthy, it's more so than tabacco.

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u/DandeyFlour May 31 '26

It is not more so than tobacco 🤦 y'all are sheep fr. It releases just as harmful gases 😭 this country doesn't wanna be honest with products they release to the market, they just need y'all addicted to stuff to keep wasting your money in this market.

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u/champ0742 May 31 '26

"It releases just as harmful gases" shows you have no clue what you're talking about lmfao

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u/Anarchy_Coon May 31 '26 edited May 31 '26

Do you think vaping doesn’t release carcinogens lmao? Stop being such a tool, inhaling particles of metal is much worse than inhaling a plant, especially one that Native American tribes have been using for centuries

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u/DAemonCayuse May 31 '26 edited May 31 '26

So vaping, especially vaping a device that's pretty much depleted CAN expose you to carcinogens. However, smoking does every time. So smoking is a larger risk than vaping. That being said, people shouldn't vape. However, people are addicted to nicotine, and if they have to choose between smoking tobacco or vaping, vaping is safer.

And just because people used to do it, doesn't make it safe lmao. There's other factors to consider there. Like how they didn't have vapes, or modern medicine.

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u/Anarchy_Coon May 31 '26

Sure buddy you can keep telling yourself that, but you’re missing a crucial point: nobody who vapes looks cool so I’ll stick to my sticks.

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u/DAemonCayuse Jun 01 '26

Smoking is honestly less cool, but do you, but not so much that you get cancer.

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u/DizzyMine4964 May 30 '26

Fiendishly clever of tobacco companies to reinvent their product.

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u/Novel_Werewolf4645 Jun 02 '26

Quora is a cesspit.

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u/BeautifulSnow9302 Jun 03 '26

It’s not safe and probably does cause cancer like some have said will happen but I think soon we will see conditions that don’t normally happen like with tobacco because it is true that a lot of not all contain heavy metals or things that aren’t even in cigarettes so that’s an added risk as well as conditions similar to like “popcorn lung” or like “coal miners lung” as in something will probably happened and has actually already been happing that is like a vape specific lung condition. So it’s not safe like with most vices and it’s just a repeat of how cigarettes and tobacco were thought of as safe and health related for weight loss or working longer or etc even though even like the guys like Einstein or Oppenheimer and even anyone who isn’t that smart but has common sense probably recognized that “yeah well you put any form of smoke or harmful unnecessary things into you’re lungs or body it’s definitely not good for you and has risks” if people wanna smoke or vape that’s fine I smoke and usually don’t vape but tried it for a while it’s just dangerous and neglectful to tell people it’s safe or that it’s a safe alternative and it was originally advertised early on as slightly safer version and way to quit smoking cigarettes or tobacco.

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u/ProjectSoup7383 Jun 03 '26

Bruh, even when vaping was cool and we had all sorts of mods and sticks that we used to blow turbo clouds even THEN we knew this shit aint completely safe haha. But i will say this, we used to mix our own juices, who knows what these disposable vapes contain, some i have used that spit some of the liquid out onto your lips if you drag too hard literally NUMB your lips, like what ingredient does that?? Never had anything like that back in the days when i mixed my own shit.

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u/nursescaneatme May 31 '26

They basically use anti-freeze in those things.

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u/Endscrypt May 31 '26

Anti-freeze would kill people of course not. What they are saying is it contains PG that’s also in Anti-freeze it’s used as a carrier in a lot of stuff.

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u/EllieElmoe Jun 01 '26

I'd argue that coffee doesnt have formaldehyde in it.

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u/FoldChance4012 Jun 03 '26

What about dry vape?

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u/Unalivem Jun 03 '26

You really had to ask AI if vaping was safe?