I love to sing and I'm a huge metal fan, so 1+1=2...

I decided to teach myself (anyway, I’m French and I live in the countryside, it’s already hard enough to find someone with the same musical tastes as me, so a vocal coach for a girl who wants to sing metal… that’s mission impossible)

Anyway !

After spending a long time wandering around looking for advice online, I figured I might be able to find what I was looking for on YouTube. Luckily, I stumbled upon a rock/metal singer who makes lots of videos giving tips. After a few days of practicing based on what she says and doing the exercises, I feel like I’m managing to reproduce her examples pretty smoothly.

Except that while trying to film/record myself over two days, multiple times, so I could compare my progress later… I mostly noticed that I seem to be able to do nothing but a vaguely guttural, angry scream.

It’s complicated, I’m in no position to judge myself, which is why I’d like to find real people who know what they’re talking about and could give me feedback without making fun of me.

I love singing, and I’ve dreamed of being able to perform songs by my favorite bands ever since I was at least 14, but it’s so hard to find someone IRL who understands that...

I'm 22 years old, and I have to practice by myself in my kitchen, making me look like a crazy person to the neighbors, by the way.

But anyway...

I'm attaching a short video to this message that I made this morning, featuring a clip of my weird scream.

Thanks 🔥

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I’m practicing my vocals and here’s me inhale frying that one part of Into the Hellfire by Lorna Shores

hopefully this helps you friend 🫡

decided to post this so everyone can see, just in case it makes sense lmao

How is this sounding?

Hi all, I’m sort of new to this and I think I’m doing pretty well but the one thing I can’t manage to do is get a good amount of loudness and depth (if it makes sense) as in my screams sound quite thin and like someone is trying to scream with technique if that makes any sense at all, like it doesn’t sound like a scream properly more like an attempt (sometimes) are there any tips you guys might have? I try to incorporate my own voice into the screams to have more depth but nothing I seem to do works that well, although I usually do it in the car with the music very loud so I could just be drowning myself out haha. Any help is appreciated!

I’ve been trying to get a similar sound to these artists and sometimes I feel I’m close but it doesn’t feel sustainable and I’m probably doing it wrong.

It sounds like they have a higher pitch head voice/falsetto note they are adding compression and distortion on top of and through whatever black magic and resonance it gives a super distorted chunky thick low end while also having a kind of a higher whistling overtone.

I’m comfortably able to do lower register screams sounding similar to something like The Acacia Strain / Between the buried and me, and through mouth shape i can make that kind of scream “high” but it’s very obviously not the same kind of voiced highs I want ( a lot of the vocal coaches on the internet all do these kinds of fry screams as examples and they are just not the same thing and sound weak in comparison.. you can hear the note behind the scream is like within regular speech range still when they are doing them)

I’ve been able to make sounds similar to what I’m after but it feels very taxing and I’m definitely pushing for it and can do it for a few days then struggle to recreate it for a week as if I’ve never done it before. I don’t think I’ve felt pain as if I’ve injured anything but it definitely gets worn out to where I can’t imagine touring this style of screaming let alone one song on a recording with adequate rest and hydration/warmups.

Does anyone have any exercises or things to mimic to help? The kargyrra excercise helps me the most for my lows, but when I try to to transition the same sensations as I move my voice up it gets tighter and thinner in my throat where the only way to get the compressed screaming sound out is a lot of pressure and luck. I know both Keith and Spencer went to Melissa cross and ive tried the basic warmups I can find online from her but I feel like I’m missing something. Anyways here’s an example of me trying Scogins vocals that I can’t reliably or comfortably do

Hey everyone!

I’d love to get some honest feedback on the high screams in one of my songs.

Overall, I’m pretty happy with my growls and shouts. I feel like they fit the genre and deliver the sound I’m going for.

But I‘ve always struggled with high screams, and what I’m doing here definitely isn’t your typical deathcore high. On the one hand, I feel like they have a pretty distinctive sound, which I actually like. On the other hand, I genuinely can’t tell whether people hear them and think, “That’s an interesting vocal style,” or “This guy clearly doesn’t know how to do highs properly.” 😅

I think they work particularly well when layered with other vocals. For example, towards the very end of the song, I’ve got highs panned left and right with a growl in the center, and I actually love the depth and intensity that creates.

But throughout the rest of the song, especially when the highs are more exposed, I’m much less confident.

So I guess what I’m trying to figure out is whether I’m just being overly critical of my own voice or whether these screams genuinely sound a bit off to people who are familiar with the genre.

Do they sound technically questionable? Do they feel out of place? Or do they just sound different from what you’d normally expect in deathcore, without necessarily being a bad thing?

And perhaps most importantly: Would you keep them, or would you leave them out until you’ve developed a more conventional high scream?
I’d really appreciate some honest feedback, especially from people who do extreme vocals themselves. No need to sugarcoat anything!

Here’s the song: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qigX63JZSyV_af3YkZX7SwUOcDuBOqtF/view?usp=drivesdk

This is self promo but I also think I have a pretty unique scream tone and I'd love to chat about it!

What do you think?

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Text basically says it all, I want to be able to access the sorta sing/scream that you get in a lot of this very melodic post-hardcore but am struggling to do it because of having a naturally relatively clean voice.

I'm getting more comfortable with fry screams and I wanna make sure it sounds like nothing is glaringly wrong before I continue. Once I'm warmed up it comes very easy and is never uncomfortable. Any advice or criticism appreciated.

My take on the vocals by Andy. Can’t replicate his style but gave it my own spin.

hi! ive always wanted to learn how to fry scream/use extreme vocal techniques and such and i've just started learning, but i have a couple questions about what i've noticed so far while trying to teach myself. first, how can i tell if i'm straining my vocal cords? when i try to fry scream i can feel them vibrating and while it's not necessarily painful it is mildly uncomfortable and my throat gets scratchy after too long. i'm worried this means i'm just damaging my voice and not even approaching the proper technique. is the key just stopping when it starts to get difficult? secondly... sometimes i get lightheaded when screaming... is that just because i need more practice or am i doing something wrong? and if i am what can i do to better manage my air/breath support?
thanks for reading :) also if you have any recommendations for tutorials please let me know

I've been practicing a lot the past 6 months from never attempting to scream, now to this, I'm proud of myself. I'm a chick and when I was younger I didn't think girls had the ability to scream, so cool to see for myself how wrong I was.

Been screaming for 4+ years but only really figured it out a little over a year ago. Joining a band connected me with tons of people who help me improve. Highly recommend