r/riskofrain • • 4d ago

RoR2 ....

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u/RandomCaveOfMonsters 4d ago

wait, did they get less likely? I thought I was seeing less of them :c

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u/First_Fail2320 4d ago edited 2d ago

In the free update alongside the DLC they nerfed the Halcyon Shrines to

1.) Cost 50 spawner credits instead of 0 (and now they spawn "about 50% of the time" according to Gearbox but I feel like I've seen them less than that)

2.) Supposedly they reduced the chance of reds but in the like 2 I completed post-update 1 had a red so I can't vouch for that change

3.) The Gilded Halcyonite now drops no money

They spawn 10 stone golems now instead of 7 though 👍

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u/Mysticjosh 4d ago

I've done a bunch on stage one and no reds yet so it definitely feels hella nerfed

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u/boxo-ofisal 4d ago

i was NEVER getting reds before even WITH full charge, nothing changed for me.

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u/Grasher312 3d ago

For me they were basically guaranteed in multiplayer. At least one of the 3-per-player would drop a red.

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u/Whenpigfly666 4d ago

In exchange, it now siphons money way faster now so it's less of a chore to fill them

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u/TinyMaja 4d ago

I think the drop table was only changed for stage 1 shrines tho

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u/mh500372 4d ago

Ohhhh good to know about the 9 golems! Thats good news!

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u/flame_lily_ 3d ago

And it gets you 1 karma, just to fuck you over even more.

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u/Fusioncell12 4d ago

They increased the rate at which it charges up too I believe.

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u/Extension_King5336 4d ago

Ngl I just got back to the game and had about 3 days with it before the update dropped and I barely got reds. I must be super unlucky cause on reddit yall make it sound common.

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u/First_Fail2320 3d ago

Yeah I never was that lucky with it myself, but it was probably part of the strategy for those people who have to optimize everything to the max

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u/IAmTheTrueM3M3L0rD 4d ago

They’ve been massively nerfed

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u/god-of-memes- 4d ago

I miss equipment drones being fucking everywhere and annoying because they steal your equipment, now that I need one, they won’t spawn, it’s been hours, 16 stages and not a single one

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u/TFWYourNamesTaken 4d ago

Tips for maximizing your chances for this RNG BS unlock:

Keep up a tab of the official wiki.gg page to check which stages are capable of spawning them, and go to the Bazaar after every stage to dream for one of those stages.

Artifacts of Command and Sacrifice prevent many types of interactables from spawning, making more room to spawn things like Equipment Drones.

Try and find another Equipment first thing on each stage and temporarily swap your Fuel Array for it so you and your turrets don't blow up, then be sure to pick the Array back up before you go to the next stage.

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u/StormRegion 4d ago

Also, if you use Command, and you get an equipment on first stage, pick Tricorn, then use it on the boss to get Functional Coupler. You could do the old MUL-T Retool trick with it to "hide" the fuel array to prevent its explosion

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u/TFWYourNamesTaken 3d ago

HOLY SHIT THAT'S INCREDIBLE!

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u/Babki123 1d ago

I think they need it on the engineer to unlock the new primary tho ,so either they have a friend, or no Mul T

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u/Sora-MMK 1d ago

Thats why you should go for tricorn to get a Functional Coupler (one extra active item slot) to do MUL-T trick without MUL-T.

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u/SlyRocko 1d ago

Functional Coupler allows any survivor to have two equipment slots, working similarly to Retool MulT

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u/Babki123 1d ago

Yeah but if you're doing the challenge you are more likely to find your damn equipement drone before your first boss item

You also don't spawn with a boss item in your back pocket

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u/SlyRocko 1d ago

The person you're replying to is talking about Artifact of Command. In that case, you could simply find an equipment barrel in stage 1, select Tricorn and then use it on the TP boss to drop a yellow item to turn into functional coupler. Then afterwards pick up the fuel array.

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u/Bottinator22 3d ago

Or you could keep the Fuel Array with you and use it as a nuke with your turrets

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u/TFWYourNamesTaken 3d ago

I've died multiple times to doing that 💀 skill issue I know, but its safer not to do that (despite how cool it is).

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u/Something_swedish 3d ago

Did a run to try and get the Engi achievement. Didn't get an equipment drone until stage 29 :/

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u/A17012022 3d ago

You need one to unlock the new engineer primary and it took fucking ages for me to find one.

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u/Frostycrypton 4d ago

I know they said they reduced the chances of it appearing but I’ve still been seeing them pretty frequently. Thought it was just bugged but I guess I’m luck (or unlucky)?

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u/okuhwhattheheck 4d ago

iirc it's a 50% chance on stage 1, so it's still pretty likely

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u/AHomicidalTelevision 4d ago

i get the change. they used to be so strong as long as you were willing to waste heaps of time.
now its less strong, but wastes less time

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u/Lotos_aka_Veron 22h ago

Yeah, its objectively great change.

Its less of a chore and waste of time, while not being so run defining anymore (still very strong tho).

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u/jamiez1207 4d ago

Trying to unlock False Son will teach you to Hate how rare Halcyon and Gold shrines are now.

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u/IAmTheTrueM3M3L0rD 3d ago

Just go to newts no?

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u/jamiez1207 3d ago

Only 15% chance there as well, plus that involves seeking out newt every level

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u/Endertoad 3d ago

You can guarantee spawn the green portal in bazzae by finding and breaking the 3 gold geodes hidden around

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u/jamiez1207 3d ago

I know that, but to unlock False Son you need to head to gilded coast, which is a 15% chance in the bazaar

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u/Endertoad 3d ago

Oh yeah I forgot that you needed the halcyon seed

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u/SartenSinAceite 3d ago

People downvoting you and not even providing a counter-explanation are really damn stupid.

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u/bakuganja 3d ago

Can't you just turn off the new dlc if you want more of those?

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u/Live-Desk8360 3d ago

It’s in the patch notes. it’s not just thing that comes with the DLC, just like the Mithrix Rework.

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u/Hyun-Tae 3d ago

Im starting to think my game is either bugged or im on wasting all my luck on shrines because out of the 20 plus runs ive done since the update i have gotten a shrine stage one every time. I legit just found out about this nerf now. Up until now I didn't even realize a difference.

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u/Ok_Mouse_6342 3d ago

What do you play on?

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u/Hyun-Tae 3d ago

I play on pc. I also play vanilla no mods.

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u/Ok_Mouse_6342 3d ago

Damn, you're just lucky I guess (I asked because on Xbox 1, Xbox s, xbox x, ps4, and both switches the game isn't getting updated or getting the new dlc so they didn't get the update..... Crys in switch player)

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u/Babki123 1d ago

I have it at least 2/3 of the time on my end so it's not that rare tbh

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u/Flaky_Excuse_7755 1d ago

Pretty great luck but I don’t think the nerf if it exists is even bad

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u/isai2300 4d ago

I like it. I really don't like when there's choices that are basically not choices.

You HAD to hit the shrines every time. Because they were guaranteed, so you make them part of your regular run. But it took away the decision making being difficult. Now thay it's nerfed and isn't as good as it was, there's a real reason to skip or try for a reward.

Spend time and money on the shrine for a few extra items. Or save that time to keep the run easier and hold onto that money to keep you leveled up on teleport.

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u/AmITeej 3d ago

I lowkey think you still have to hit it, especially since it takes up stage credits, you essentially are gonna be skipping out on the items that you would have gotten from a chest if you skip the shrine.

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u/isai2300 3d ago

I still hit em. But now it doesn't seem like it's always the best choice. Especially since the rarity if the items have been nerfed. You're not as likely to get a red right off the rip. And sometimes it eats your time up.

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u/Jonas_Priest 3d ago

Time is irrelevant and halcyon shrines have gotten more valuable due to the credits they cost. I also like how they are an "every few runs" thing now, but if it's there, not taking it is gimping yourself for no benefit

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u/Orange_up_my_ass 3d ago

Sure, but now it doesnt always spawn stage 1, and has reduced odds for higher rarity items. On stage 3-4, there's a real argument to be made for skipping it, especially since Halcyonite scales like hell.

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u/Hairy_Concert_8007 3d ago

It didn't take up credits on stage 1 prior to the update. Granted it takes 40 instead of the normal 50, but it definitely does walk the change a step back

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u/Sure_Warning1236 3d ago

It takes up credits, so now you have even less choice than before. Otherwise you just lose items compared to a normal run. I lost a run to exactly this like yesterday low-key.

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u/Mltv416 3d ago

Thing is I had fun picking up my early shrine and fighting the golem after it made the opening stage more fun imo

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u/isai2300 3d ago

They're fun, but it does get monotonous doing shrine every time.

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u/WingDingfontbro 3d ago

After the change time actually isn’t as much of a problem anymore

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u/Babki123 1d ago

I think it became even more of a non choice than before

You still get 3 item for doing the Halcyon among 5 , and item selection is still one of the strongest aspect of any rogue like

Now it cost credit so that's one less chest present for the halcyon shrine that still give 3 item among five

The true nerf would be the item selection you get 1 ,2 or 3 item and that's it now you might get just shit item and if you're late it will not be worth it.

Removing the legendary is a nerf but 3 potential green is still strong (or S tier white)

Another option is to copy the curse system with having 3 tier , but you can pick like 3 white, 2 green OR 1 red if the red is available or giving the still 5 item but each item is tied to a value and you have a max amount of credit to spend based on how much gold was put into the shrine

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u/slicing_eyeballs 3d ago

I haven't seen a single one in at least 20 stage rotations since the update. And despite their claim of lowering the chances of Plains and Roots for first stage, they're the only stages I've gotten alongside Verdant Falls!!!!

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u/Lechyon 4d ago

I'm still seeing them frequently, haven't gotten a single red from them since the update though

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u/devilOG420 4d ago

I didn’t buy the dlc until a few a weeks ago. I swear to you up until then did I realize they’re good and they’re worth doing

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u/IAmTheTrueM3M3L0rD 4d ago

Honestly I really don’t

They’re 50% now for stage 1 which still feels way too high and especially how long it takes most survivors to kill that many golems without decent items it’s just a chore for some greens and greys

Especially with red chance being decreased as well

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u/Ok_Mouse_6342 3d ago

But you don't have to take the time to fight the golems. It takes the same amount of time even if you don't fight them. Same rewards. Just fight the Halcyon and ignore the golems if you don't wanna fight them. Halcyon is a dps check anyway

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u/Pilques 3d ago

I like it. Makes early game less bloated, like they said

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u/No_Arachnid_5881 4d ago

Ha I laugh because I still have this on the switch version............... No I'm not sad that I won't get any updates or dlc

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u/Ok_Mouse_6342 3d ago

I'm sad. I'm very sad. I hope they change their minds and still provide the update to switch..... Maybe without the Halcyon shrine change though. I always love either boxing him up or getting 2 tapped by him. It's become a staple in my run to at least try to fight him. Hes like a stage 1 dps check, if I couldn't beat him I probably wouldn't have lasted the rest of the stages

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u/NoriaMan 4d ago

My 3 bonus items! :(

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u/YamHour4273 3d ago

I have seen it in stage 1 in each one of my 20 or so runs since HC dropped ?

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u/PSneumn 3d ago

The tree tops stage has my favourite sound track. I'll miss having guaranteed access to it.

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u/MicrwavedBrain 2d ago

Powder that makes you say real.

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u/SonOyunBukucu64 4d ago

does anyone know a page that compiled all of the changes?

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u/AmITeej 3d ago

It sucks, yeah. Especially since it was free loot, basically, every time.

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u/Lotos_aka_Veron 22h ago

Which is good it was nerfed, shit was too run defining. You could basically confirm a win on first stage with how common reds were.