r/riskofrain • u/Hazardmat • 16d ago
RoR2 He is now the last one left...
with Enforcer coming back, Miner is now the only survivor from Risk of Rain Returns yet to be brought back or have a spiritual successor in Risk of Rain 2
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u/TESTICLE_OBLITERATOR 16d ago
One more DLC for 2 before RoR 3, I suppose. Maybe ya boy's stuck in the Red Plane like Tuska Daemon-Killa.
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u/First_Fail2320 16d ago
I think Miner is canonically dead lol, the Lost Pickaxe tooltip says "Scorching from beyond." and the log is written from the Sole Survivor's pov going like "I know whose pickaxe this is. Bummer."
That said, there could always be like, a second guy who is also a Miner, there's multiple Loaders and Engineers and stuff.
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u/Hazardmat 16d ago
I guess that makes sense, hope he went out in a blaze of glory tho
still we could still get a spiritual successor or just a different Miner like how we have a different Loader in 2
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u/Tall-BugBoy 16d ago
OR he comes back with a burnt outfit and a brand new pickaxe, maybe a jackhammer
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u/Grasher312 16d ago
It'd be fun to have a different spin on Miner, even though I adore Miner himself a lot.
Railgunner and Operator are amazing spins on Sniper and Pilot. Would be fun to see another spin on a classic.
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u/Supreme-Machine-V2 16d ago
I mean it is also implied he is alive as you unlock him by saving him from lemurian.
So I wouldn't consider it as 100% canon he died either. Also our survivor isn't a god either he assumes he is dead due to lost pickaxe.
Even then as you said there could be another miner similar to Loader,Engi etc.
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u/yugiohhero 16d ago
Every RoR1 survivor is dead but Commando and Acrid. The RoR2 cast, sans Acrid, is all new people
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u/Dusty-Droid 13d ago
Well isn't it more the base game ror2 cast (sans acrid) are new people? (And I guess maybe artificer like someone else said because of returns)
Like as I understood, the ror1 commando became the void fiend, but the ror2 commando is a new person.
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u/yugiohhero 12d ago
Viend is a new guy. Common misconception Hopoo quelled in the leadup to SotV. RoR1 Commando is the only guy who got off of Petrichor as per the enemy logs being written by him, who was alone and used the only escape route (Contact Light). And he is canonically AWOL. Think Suncles said "We didn't wanna reveal one of the franchises biggest secrets (where commando went) in an addendum".
Returns Arti is also not 2 Arti. They don't even look similar.
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u/Supreme-Machine-V2 11d ago
Last part is doesn't make sense there is a huge hint of her casing herself in ice during death where it looks exactly similar to situation we find her in ror2 and Seekers log book implying she went onto look for Artificer reinforces this alot.
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u/yugiohhero 11d ago
They probably sent her between games. Returns Arti has almost nothing in common with 2's arti
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u/Supreme-Machine-V2 11d ago
I literally pointed out common parts and story implications though...
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u/yugiohhero 11d ago
i know. and for this arti to be the one that froze herself to survive on petrichor, she's missing several key components of being the risk of rain 2 artificer. she doesnt have the same gear at all, her suits not even the same colour.
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u/Supreme-Machine-V2 11d ago
Color changes one is 3d other is 2d.
I don't understand your point she freezes herself when she dies why would she need to survive petrichor for this?
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u/Single_Tourist5317 16d ago
All of the survivors from one are canonically different people in two except for acrid and drifter
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u/First_Fail2320 16d ago
I think Artificer who was "backported" to RORR is probably the same character as well (she has a unique death animation, getting captured in the time crystal you save her from in ROR2) and I'm not entirely sure what's going on with CHEF in ROR2 (despite looking rather, uh, "aftermarket", the log implies he came on the Safe Travels (but not much else,) and there's also one who's just chilling in the Solus hivemind or something??)
But yeah, like I said, there could always be another Miner 🤷
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u/Hazardmat 16d ago
I would say we have at least 2 more DLC's given the amount of empty character slots left
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u/Supreme-Machine-V2 16d ago
I don't think there'll be a ror3. What can they make in ror3 they cannot in ror2 with a dlc? Issue is Ror2 already is the perfect ror could get all they need is adjust skills and rework some of them if we do get ror3 at best it'd be Overwatch 2 situation.
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u/Grasher312 16d ago
Honestly yeah.
ROR3 doesn't really need to exist since stylistically and gameplay wise 2 is already great.
At best I'd welcome further expansions. I'd honestly love to have more free DLCs. Smaller content add-ons for the base game. As things stand, there's less and less point in buying the base game, since the DLCs are multiplying quite rapidly.
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u/Supreme-Machine-V2 16d ago
Yeah I agree but I still think base game holds itself well and definetly isn't worse as some of the other dlc heavy games (fuck you payday 2)
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u/TerrorLTZ 16d ago
if the mobile game showed us... people is happy with ROR 2 or RORR and anything outside of that just dies
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u/Billy_Of_Billy 16d ago
i agree i feel that a ror3 would need to be an ultra phenominal game to even compete with ror2
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u/Supreme-Machine-V2 16d ago
What money is there to get from ror3? They'd be making more from dlcs as it's not gonna be a high cost like an full game and most people would still stick with ror2 due to not many improvements can be made on a new ror game that'd make people buy
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u/deppresionboi 15d ago
Dont make Gearbox do what Starbreeze tried to do with Payday 3, hopelessly trying to reinvent the wheel and failing miserably at it
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u/Supreme-Machine-V2 15d ago
Eh. Payday 3 did get better and had a lot of stuff they could have improved over pd2 they just failed miserably at it
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u/Live-Desk8360 16d ago
… is there really anywhere for the story to go after Ror 2? I mean… both Brothers are dead…
Maybe we could learn about Her or something—
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u/Miquel101 16d ago
i dont think they would make ROR3, they can do a lot more for ROR2 before anything related to a third game
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u/EmergencyThink1478 16d ago
Hey man I hate to be that guy but I don't think we're ever getting risk of rain 3
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u/PokeAust 16d ago
What about Robomando
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u/The_Vision3 16d ago
Robomando wasn’t in the original game, but he was in Returns. Same with pilot. Pretty sure that’s what op is specifying. If I would have to guess, they’re probably going to be added sooner or later.
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u/PokeAust 16d ago
Pilot isn’t here because Operator is a spiritual successor to Pilot
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u/RockinOneThreeTwo 15d ago edited 15d ago
Only in two minor ways, one of which is optional, Pilot and Operator are far different characters the moment you stop using Ascent Protocol; hell even if you do use Ascent Protocol, Pilot still plays differently.
Pilot has nothing to do with drones, nothing to do with being a "technology focused" character (OVERRIDE, FIREWALL, Ejection/Amp Core, CMD SWARM).
Pilot is everything about positioning correctly to crowd control/juggle with your mines in order to line up your pistol shots efficiently, and staying airborne to reduce damage -- Operator doesn't play that way even with Ascent Protocol. The problem with Pilot is that his current toolbox doesn't work well in 3D and would have to be changed to be better at AoE or damage.
If you opt to play "barely airbone" Pilot and instead stick to Airstrike + Aerobatics, you kind of become a not-quite-mercernary rather than anything close to Operator.
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u/SocksNeedsHelp 16d ago
Han-d and robomando found dead
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u/Supreme-Machine-V2 16d ago
Robomando is a joke character if he gets added I doubt it'll be him being the second retrning survivor more so a secret survivor they never talk about like False Son.
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u/Hazardmat 16d ago
I'm pretty sure Mul-t is suppose to be the spiritual successor for Han-d
as for Robomando...
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u/Grasher312 16d ago
As far as I remember, I think Hopoo said somewhere that MUL-T was a result of them trying to port HAN-D into 2 and realizing that he just doesn't fit the 3D gameplay loop.
Which I kinda get, but on the other hand I adore the HAN-D in the classic survivors mod, so I feel like it's not as unattainable as they believed it.
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u/cookiereptile 16d ago
yeah that was their reasoning. tbh though i think that it mostly boiled down to Hopoo’s lack of experience making a 3d game. ROR2 was still WAY early in development when MUL-T was added, the game was still finding its footing. I think post-SOTV Hopoo could have made it work if they really wanted, but probably figured that MUL-T was reason to not warrant HAN-D. Gearbox has been hesitant to do anything that would contradict/change Hopoo’s content directly
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u/L-Kasaii 16d ago
Considering the HAN-D mod by EnforcerGang, I'd say you were right. Highly recommend if anyone misses our boy in RoR2.
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u/TerrorLTZ 16d ago
Then proceed to port a banger close cuarters character Called Loader that is shield on steroids and fuck you and your face punch.
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u/PalaskunDylan 16d ago
In that case you should also include Sniper and Pilot
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u/Grasher312 16d ago
But they do have their new counterparts, Railgunner and Operator.
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u/PalaskunDylan 16d ago
I know, but Sniper and Pilot was my favorite characters in ror/rorr, and I'm a little pissed that we didn't get them.
I like playing Operator and Railgunner is one of the better characters, but I would have prefered the originals.
Miner was my third favorite character, and if he also will be replaced with a new counterpart, I'm going to nuke Petrichor V.
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u/Grasher312 16d ago
I do hope Miner gets adapted as himself. I love Operator over Pilot, but I definitely prefer Sniper to Railgunner, stylistically at least, so I understand how you feel.
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u/PalaskunDylan 16d ago
All of the ror characters including Pilot with Drifter looks way better than ror2 newcomers.
Captain is only one human who looks on par with original roster, REX also looks good.
But I really don't like all the other new characters stylewise, they doesn't have anything from the original artstyle, Artificer, MUL-T and False Son just looks bad.
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u/SocksNeedsHelp 16d ago
Tbf pilot is an rorr character but yeah
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u/Hazardmat 16d ago
Pretty sure operator is suppose to be the successor to pilot
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u/PalaskunDylan 16d ago
He is, and Railgunner is a succesor to the Sniper.
Sniper and Pilot was my favorite characters in ror/rorr, and I'm a little disapoineted that we got their succesors instead of them.
Btw, Miner is my third favorite character in the rorr, so I might have a bad news...
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u/Legomeaker101 11d ago
han-d has a spiritual successor unless you also count railgunner
(and robomando would be less important than pilot imo)
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u/Waluigiisgod 16d ago
I really was hoping it was gonna be his turn this time, alas the time hasn’t come yet. His gameplay was great in RORR, hopefully he translates well in ROR2
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u/Significant-Toe-3213 16d ago
So, I have way too many hours in the original RoR, bought it on release. Many of those being with Miner.
Can you kinda explain the changes in RoRR? I've been putting off picking it up since I love the original so much.
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u/Waluigiisgod 15d ago
Sorry I don’t remember the changes between ROR1 and RORR, it’s been a looooooong time since I played ROR1.
However I googled “Risk of Rain Returns Miner changes” and I got a result of a post from Steam Community that is a list of all the changes between ROR1 and RORR. I guess you could take a look at that post to see what changed. Sorry that I couldn’t be more helpful.
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u/Supreme-Machine-V2 16d ago
I like enforcer but theme I think would been more suited to Miner due to fungal stuff as well. I think Enforcer would've been better for redplane esque dlc as they could make him like doomguy etc lol.
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u/DamageMaximo 16d ago edited 16d ago
This is a picture from the third Dev Diary for Alloyed Collective (DLC 3) when they were teasing what survivor would be the next returning survivor they showed all of these (Which was later revealed to be Drifter in DLC 3) So here is the official list of the returning survivors we will be getting eventually in the future, or else there'd be no reason to tease all of them just for some to never come back anyway (This specific devlog was focused on OPERATOR, and notice how Pilot is still listed as a survivor with a chance to be added in the future)
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u/Responsible_Pool_721 15d ago
I still highly doubt that Pilot or Sniper will get added, due to already having spiritual successors. The list should be taken with a grain of salt considering they were willing to put Robomando on there, when he is a joke character. I think them putting robomando, pilot, and sniper on the list is them going “Oooh, look they could be added someday”, when realistically they aren’t going to.
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u/SlopyHandjob 16d ago
🙏🙏🙏🙏 PLEASE PLEAe I am once again asking for my tiny man hero to be released in ror2
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u/Happy_Difference_334 15d ago
Dont tell me this plz i dont want anymore dlc this will achieve the game
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u/y0nderYak 15d ago
Guys he is my FAVORITE CHARACTER and i have to say if they release him in ror2 they will have to COMPLETELY overhaul his kit.
It does NOT WORK in 3d the way it did in 2d and i genuinely think they should just release a new character w similar vibes and make a logbook entry to say how the real miner went on to live as a chainsmoker on some backwater planet with all the loot they got or something. That is a better tribute to this character than releasing a charactwr w the same name that is completely different
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u/Gr8rThanJude 15d ago
Idk why yall keep forgetting about void fiend. His whole gimmick is having a berserker meter, just like miner. I doubt he’ll ever get added for that reason alone, they’d have to fully rework him
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u/CelioHogane 12d ago
Well, no, he is the only survivor from Risk of Rain 1 to not have one.
if we count Risk of Rain Returns, there is no Robomando spiritual successor.
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u/Macclark09 16d ago
Hey guys pilot from returns is coming soon right?
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u/Grasher312 16d ago
Operator is basically Pilot, so I doubt it. Railgunner and Operator seem to be the spiritual successors to Sniper and Pilot.
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u/TrueCryptographer181 14d ago
Ummm what about pilot? Is captain supposed to be him? They are so different
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u/ROR2_STORE 16d ago
Thematically made more sense for him to be released with alloyed collective because...metals