I feel like every pagans people are pro-choice,you have more more chance to meet a pro-life atheist than a pro-life pagan.

Even if a pagan is not progressive they will still support abortion.

Do pro-life pagans are non-existent or they are rarer than pro-life atheists and pro-life feminists?

I think you’ve heard plenty of people use expressions like “clumps of cells” and other terms designed to dehumanize. But I once noticed that just one word changes everything. If you add the word “selective,” the same people who argued that abortion is an inherent right of a woman will start vehemently arguing that the fetus is still a person. For those who don’t know, selective abortions are those that are performed because the future child doesn’t meet the parents’ expectations in some way... And most often, this is related to the unborn child; the fact that girls are most often aborted causes anger. In China, this even led to a demographic crisis known as “missing wives,” i.e., a significant imbalance between the female and male populations. And for the individuals I have described, an unborn child only begins to be of value when she is needed for their ideology.

Prochoice ideology is fundamentally an argument that society should not enforce morality, or even judge others for being immoral.

Abortion advocates will do their best to to disguise this axiomatic foundation of their position, but because their beliefs are not grounded in moral principles, they have a hard time obscuring it. Since they have abandoned morality as a principle that one should be motivated by, and are instead trying to deceptively manipulate your moral values by wrapping their true position in the language of women's rights, they do a poor job of keeping the mask from slipping.

They will make lazy false assertions that: no one has a right to the invasive use of someone else's body, to appeal to your sense of morality around rape or forced organ donation by conflating gestation (which is the age appropriate standard of care that all children deserve, and is a necessary evolved function of human reproduction that all living humans require) with immoral transgressions against you to obscure the reality of what they really want: permission to kill their own children.

They will argue that killing your own child is a necessary choice women must be able to exercise to protect women's rights, while at the same time saying that society should permit the killing of female children through abortion which deprives other female humans all their rights. This contradiction occurs because they are not starting from a foundation of morality or first principles, they are starting at their selfish desire to avoid the burden of caring for their own dependent offspring, and then working backwards to justify it by co-opting the language of morality to disguise how monstrous and evil their position really is.

If you press them on why unborn children should be a special exception to the parental obligation of providing the age appropriate standard of care that we expect for all other children, they are backed into a corner because the don't have a principled position, and so they will either cite their personal opinion that because the care for unborn children is different than that of born children, they don't think it should be required because it requires more of a burden.

Some of them will even abandon the pretense of morality all together. If you ask why does a mother have an obligation to breastfeed her newborn child if she gives birth all alone in the wilderness and has no formula, and its the only way to provide the age appropriate standard of care to them, they will say there actually is no obligation to breastfeed your child in that situation, and they will demand legal citations from you to prove there is one.

This happens because parental obligation is a principle of morality, and they have abandoned morality. All their objections attempt to presume that they are operating under the same moral values that the rest of society has, but its just a ruse, they don't care about morality; they just want the freedom to be immoral even to the point of killing their own children.

I (junior) want to start a pro life club in my school. I’ve been thinking about it and I feel I know enough to start one (to defend my beliefs at least) and I’m very passionate about it. however we all know how pro choicers can be or just people who disagree with you in general. I’m juggling whether or not I should do it. I’m a bit intimidated by the backlash I will face and the way it will affect my school reputation but I can see that advocating against this is more important than that in the long run. I’m an abolitionist but I was considering using student for life’s start up kit to get a constitution, learning materials, and other training going. I know students for life is more pro gestation/pro circumstance but i think that may be good because I can get the material and also have it open to pro lifers who may not be abolitionist. What do you guys think, should I do it should I not. Do you have any advice?

The idea that they are not alive or beautiful individuals is madness. A reason it hits me so hard is my mom miscarried and my little brother at 9 weeks old already shared a birthmark on his face with my dad. He was very much not a clump of cells. You can never tell me or make me think they are not alive and valuable little people.

Scrolling reddit I saw this question. This was so sad to see. Reading the comments people admit that this was a child!

I just recently found out that I’m pregnant and my husband and I are over the moon. I can’t believe there’s a little person the size of a pea growing inside of me.
Because of this, I’m on a lot of pregnancy-related subreddits. Recently I’ve seen multiple posts about women finding out their babies either have a genetic disorder or Down syndrome and that they’re heartbroken that they have to terminate the pregnancy. The argument is that they aren’t ready to financially support a disabled child. It makes me want to cry. These sweet babies are all around 20 weeks and are scheduled to be dismembered inside of their mothers before being removed. How cruel is this world? How have we gotten to a place where we kill our children because they’re different than we are?
The same group that cries for equality and respect willingly destroys the lives of valuable children simply because they’re different. If that isn’t ableism, I don’t know what is. I weep for the women I’ve seen have scheduled their abortions for this upcoming week. I would scoop their babies up in a heartbeat if I could. I wish I could help them.

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Some pro-choicer will say "It's ZEF not a baby" but "baby" is used regardless on the development stage. That doesn't mean they're unworthy.