r/politics • u/zubbs99 Nevada • 7h ago
Possible Paywall Inflation Numbers Show Just How Badly Trump Wrecked the Economy
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/inflation-numbers-trump-wrecked-economy-1235642667/•
u/Under_Milkwood_1969 6h ago
There isn’t a single aspect of US life that hasn’t been utterly trashed in just 2 years; economy, environment, foreign relations, energy, trade, law and order…
And there’s still another 2 years to go when he is likely to be even more unhinged if the GOP lose both the House and the Senate.
Be afraid world, be very, very afraid!
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u/misteryuksc 6h ago
The Good Liars on YouTube go around the country to different Trump events interviewing attendees. They were just in Syracuse, New York I believe and in that episode they ask multiple people which aspects of US life are better (or worse) and these people all answer the same, that every aspect of US life is better for them now than two years ago under Joe Biden’s presidency. Every single one of them answers this way. It’s so sad that there is such a difference in how we perceive things are around the country. There is a large segment of this country’s population that don’t really care about anything other than that somebody else is suffering more than they themselves are, if that’s true they seem to be content with whatever else is going on.
How do we change this way of thinking?
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u/supertoned 6h ago
The thing is: From their perspective, things ARE better. They honestly feel that higher gas and food prices are a small cost to pay for having someone bully the people they have been taught are to blame for all their problems.
Trump insults other countries: They think this makes us look strong.
Trump trashes on the immigrants, gays, blacks, and Muslims: They have been taught by Rush Limbaugh and Fox News their entire lives that these people are to blame for all the evils of this world.
Trump has ICE arrest and shoot liberals: They couldn't be happier.
He is piling on abuse on the people they want to abuse and they are ecstatic over it.
How CAN you change that way of thinking?
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u/Sea-Ambition-451 5h ago
What can men do against such reckless hate?
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u/Karmago 5h ago
Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them.
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u/funkymunkyman98 4h ago
For Rohan
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u/Under_Milkwood_1969 2h ago
Forgive if I don’t take tactical advice from someone who decided that when they were on horseback and facing giant armoured elephants, that the best option was, “we’ll meet them head on!”.
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u/RobutNotRobot 1h ago
In that movie they slew them with swords.
Also a fell army was involved and some giant eagles.
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u/TheShadowKick 2h ago
It's not just that. Under Biden conservative media was constantly telling them how terrible things were. Under Trump conservative media tells them how great things are. This plays a big part in how people perceive their lives to be going.
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u/only1rob 2h ago
Push your rep to fight back against corporate and specifically media consolidation. Break up large media conglomerates, everything from tv, newspaper, radio, advertising, social media etc. its the single biggest problem both in the US and worldwide
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u/chubbysumo Minnesota 20m ago
Until they are personally affected severely, they wont change. These are the racist scum that existed in our nation, now brave enough to be open about it. Never let them forget. Never.
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u/POEness 5h ago
That's the thing, those people are just lying.
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u/WantCookiesNow 5h ago
You’re right about the people with wealth and power. They’re lying.
But the MAGA masses, they’ve been conned. They’re in a cult and have been brainwashed by right wing talking heads, and we’re seeing decades of that work come to fruition. These people aren’t critical thinkers, are stuck in a media bubble, and stay there because the dopamine hits via hate-fueled media are too frequent and feel too good to even consider changing.
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u/WrathOfMogg 3h ago
Things ARE better for people with wealth and power. They’re getting away with highway robbery. And any highway robbery they were previously incarcerated for, they have been pardoned in exchange for bribes. It’s all roses for them.
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u/DadJokeBadJoke California 2h ago
Biden wasn't in the news every day yelling about how bad he was like Trump did for four years. Now they just hear Trump yelling about how great everything is and they take it at face value.
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u/Ok-Mycologist-3829 Massachusetts 5h ago
Being delusional is different from lying.
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u/orbvsterrvs 4h ago
From an actionable standpoint, they're lying. As in we can disregard what the people who claim the earth is flat say about orbital mechanics.
From an individual standpoint, they're delusional. For a variety of reasons/causes ranging from structural (education, right-wing radio, propaganda) and personal (bigotry, vindictiveness, fear).
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u/Ok-Mycologist-3829 Massachusetts 4h ago
I grew up among these people. It isn't lying to say something you believe is true. You're still wrong, but it's not lying. And to completely ignore them is part of the reason we are in this timeline right now.
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u/aliquotoculos America 4h ago
People do not understand this about NY: Its NOT a liberal state. Neither is CA... just the liberal cities outweigh everything else.
There may well be NO liberal state. Maybe Massachusetts to a very, VERY small extent. Most of the people in this country are those people from Syracuse. And that's the people in the major part of Syracuse... wait til you find out of the people who live in the outside towns.
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u/gameryamen 4h ago
Really? People don't understand that? It gets brought up in virtually every discussion about voting, and has since the days of slashdot and Fark. And NY isn't special in that situation, that's how every single state in the country works.
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u/aliquotoculos America 3h ago
It indeed is! But yes, a lot of people do not know, realize, or understand how fascist-rught most of rural America is/has been for decades.
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u/bickdiggles 2h ago
People do not understand this about NY: Its NOT a liberal state. Neither is CA... just the liberal cities outweigh everything else.
The only people I hear saying “liberal states” in general are republican politicians to deride states who historically vote blue.
just the liberal cities outweigh everything else.
It’s pretty well known large cities house most of a states population and they tend to lean blue. So if you mean most people living in a state outweighs everything else then sure.
There may well be NO liberal state. Maybe Massachusetts to a very, VERY small extent.
Yeah I don’t think the people who use the term “liberal cities” (republicans) care about Massachusetts. They tend to lambast states like CA or OR who historically vote blue.
Most of the people in this country are those people from Syracuse.
The population of Syracuse is 146,000 and NYC is 8,500,000. Most of the people in New York aren’t even the people from Syracuse.
And that's the people in the major part of Syracuse... wait til you find out of the people who live in the outside towns.
64% of NYs population is in the NYC metro area. If you’re trying to say the population of dozens and dozens of rural towns outweigh metro areas NY and Syracuse are not a great example.
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u/buffaloraven 3h ago
Land doesnt vote, thankfully. If the cities outweigh rural, then its a liberal state for all intents and purposes.
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u/aliquotoculos America 3h ago
I won't call it a liberal state until a minority can live in all of it with safety, at the very least.
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u/buffaloraven 3h ago
That seems like both moving the goalposts rather far and like there's nowhere that would meet that definition in like the world
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u/aliquotoculos America 3h ago
I can narrow it down in several ways that I can see being achievable, but you are perhaps a bit right.
Maybe better to say a minority can at least safely travel across the state.
But to keep it simple, yes, cities hold huge amounts of more liberal populations but i dint think the cities should be the overwhelming metric for people to label it a liberal state.
For instance, I'm trans, with friends and family who are trans+poc. I was doing risk assessments of several state laws (trans and general, like statute of limitations and such like that) to determine actually safe states. NY state is actually a pretty terrible and dangerous place to be trans or a PoC (from my personal experience growing up in upstate + my research) if you can't afford to be in certain cities, yet we will call it a liberal state and a safe state. All because of basically NYC and sort of Buffalo.
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u/buffaloraven 49m ago
That's moving outside the bounds of politics, imo, and into issues of human psychology and generational hate.
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u/CherikeeRed 3h ago
The Cattaraugus County Fair. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
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u/mattmillze Connecticut 3h ago
Massachusetts would be liberal centric around Boston and have a massive swath of red if not for Northampton and Springfield. They kinda balance out Western Mass, which is very red in some areas. Western Mass, Eastern CT, and the southern part of NH are littered with red flags.
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u/benuntu 3h ago
You don't, for most of them. You can't reason with an unreasonable person. They've decided to live a self-centered life based on feelings instead of facts. They don't care about other people, and in a lot of cases actively hate those who are "different".
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u/McNerfBurger 20m ago
I think it's worse than that. I don't think they've decided anything. I think they can't reason. Period.
I believe a large portion of them are idiots. I don't mean that in the typical insult usage. I mean literal idiots. People completely incapable of reasoning, critical thinking, reading, etc. The type of person who hears their internal monologue, or has a stay thought, and genuinely believes that god is speaking to them.
I find it unbelievably depressing that so many people like this exist in 2026. You can't reach them because they exist in an entirely different state of consciousness.
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u/Additional_Doctor468 1h ago
We don’t change them. They will die thinking this. Make of this what you will.
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u/vandreulv 3h ago
It's only been two years.
Jesus fucking christ.
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u/cassinonorth New Jersey 26m ago
No it's been 10 God damn years he's been dominating news cycles. I'm so fuckin tired of hearing about him.
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u/7evenate9ine 6h ago
He will be more unhinged but if the GOP lose there will be nothing he can do about it. The purse strings will be cut. The dog will be on a leash. So let him be unhinged.
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u/DefenstratedTwice 5h ago
Hahahaha, he doesn't respect congressional oversite when he owns fucking congress. Think he will give 2 fucks now?
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u/7evenate9ine 5h ago
Congress will start to act like Congress once people on the Epstein list no longer have the final say in the House and Senate.
That's the problem. The Epstein list wasn't blocked to completely protect Trump and billionaires. It was likely blocked by some members of Congress to protect themselves.
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u/ConcentrateDirect523 2h ago
The most aggravating part, is that it was trending upward. Dude literally could have done nothing, or even nothing aside from cutting taxes for his shithead cronies, and it would be miles better than whatever the fuck this is. This is what Trump does. He makes false promises to gullible investors, gets them to hold all the debt, and he runs off with what little gross profit was made- and bears no responsibility while his investors default. Rinse repeat.
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u/eeskimos 2h ago
Global life. That fuck is ruining the world. And he can keep us (Canada) out his god damn mouth. We won’t ever be a state.
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u/HauntingAd2440 1h ago
Also personal lives. Families ruined over division in politics. People dead from not being able to have healthcare.
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u/lyngen 39m ago
Vote blue. He needs a check. Republicans just do whatever he says.
Voting for democrats down the line is the single most effective thing we can all do. House and senate are important but governor and other local races are really important, too.
Making sure anyone who agrees does, too, is probably the second.
Convincing folks on the fence is probably the third.
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u/travio Washington 6h ago
And all of it was self inflicted. He didn't have to start the war with Iran, treat tariffs like Oprah did cars, alienate our closest allies or extend the immigration crackdown to anyone with a tan and an accent.
He could have done jack shit and the economy would have improved. He could have fortified the border and targeted criminal migrants and he'd have kept above 50% on immigration, including with the hispanics he made inroads with in 2024.
The republican congress didn't push back when they could, so they shoulder some of the blame, but his actions fucked the economy.
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u/Snarfsicle 5h ago
Fucked the economy but vastly enriched himself and the wealthy in the know. And that's all he ever cared about.
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u/whomad1215 4h ago
He could have done jack shit and the economy would have improved
same as his first term
except this time he didn't inherit a stable economy, he inherited a barely recovered one, and republicans tactics immediately turned it around
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u/totally_not_a_dog113 2h ago
Same as his entire life. If he'd lived off his inheritance money, he would have been richer.
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u/WhatAmTrak 1h ago
Invested* his inheritance wisely. He could have flown under the radar and did all his vile shit that no one was really looking at until he became president. I hope the “stress” of presidency (even though he isn’t actually burdened by it unfortunately) takes him out earlier than he deserves to be on this planet.
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u/DadJokeBadJoke California 2h ago
The republican congress didn't push back when they could, so they shoulder some of the blame,
They deserve just as much blame as Trump. It used to be an equal branch of government, but this bunch of lickspittle simply gave their power away. They could stop this reckless tyrant at any moment.
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u/awkwardnetadmin 6h ago
Hiring especially in better paying positions was starting to slow in 2024 do IDK that the economy would have improved, but it would definitely be better than we are today for the self inflicted damaged that tariffs and the war in Iran. What's scary is that oil prices would be even higher if not for China cutting imports. The size of their petroleum reserve isn't known, but it sounds like they're just trying to ride out the issue for now. If they start importing more again global oil prices will go up even more.
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u/TheShadowKick 2h ago
The improvement would have slowed but we were on course for a generally upward trend. Biden made great strides in recovering our economy from Covid and then Trump came along and destabilized things again.
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u/angelar_ Texas 3h ago
well you know he did have to do that because he doesn't have his own brain and has to use russell vought's
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u/TonyHawktuah69 58m ago
They could have pumped up the economy and actually did some good to buy good will from people before going full nazi is the crazy thing.
We should honestly thank god these people are too stupid and incompetent to do this right. They could have thrown the poor people enough bones or dropped student loan relief and it would have been impossible to get people to vote Democrat in November before they rug pulled full nazi agenda.
They couldn’t even go 2 years without going full poop lettuce and bringing back the plague lol
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u/je_suis_le_tick 6h ago
Who would have known that a man who could bankrupt a casino would be bad for the economy?
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u/Conscious-Candle- 6h ago
Three of them,actually.
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u/A_Nonny_Muse 6h ago
A lot more than three economies. The whole world is feeling it.
(I know what you meant - I'm being facetious)
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u/awkwardnetadmin 6h ago
I think they meant that Trump Entertainment that ran the casino business declared bankruptcy 3 times in 2004, 2009 and 2014.
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u/Toby_O_Notoby 1h ago
And how he bankrupted two of them is kinda hilarious to show how bad of a businessman he is.
Basically, gambling becomes legal in New Jersey in the late '70s. This is a huge boon as your only real competition is an entire country away in Las Vegas. So he opens "Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino" on the boardwalk at which point you just have to sit back and let the money roll in.
But because he's a restless moron who can't leave well enough alone, he decides he needs another building with his name on it. So he opens Trump Taj Mahal which also on the boardwalk and a mere mile away from Trump Plaza.
Now you don't need a business degree from Wharton to see that means you've effectively gone into competition with yourself. It's like owning two McDonald's franchises and deciding to open them across the street from one another, all you're doing is ensuring both will fail.
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u/nirachi 1h ago
The MAGA in my life explained to me that he was laundering money, which he got away with. So this is not a sign of incompetence, but outsmarting the system.
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u/je_suis_le_tick 1h ago
Even better you knew he was a criminal and still voted for him!
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u/MiloGoesToTheFatFarm 6h ago edited 6h ago
He has been so hands on with the economy, it’s no small wonder why it’s so shitty. The best you can do with inflation is to slow it down, deflation would be a disaster for the economy. Instead of slowing inflation he accelerated it. The people who voted for him didn’t vote for policy though, that wasn’t what they cared about.
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u/PontificatingBret 6h ago
The people who voted for him didn't understand* policy. They thought other countries paid tariffs because a career conman told them they would in between telling them dogs were being eaten by ILLEGALS!
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u/SimilarYard9840 6h ago
It’s really quite incredible the level of destruction that he’s achieved with such small hands.
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u/Johnny-Unitas 3h ago
And he's campaigning on making it worse with his promises of sending out money if the republicans win.
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u/A_Nonny_Muse 6h ago
I disagree. A small amount of deflation is fine as long as there is adequate job growth.
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u/TheGOPisTheDeepState 6h ago
Republicans always destroy the economy, typically cause a recession, and create virtually no jobs compared to Democrats. Been like this for a handful of decades now.
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u/hymie0 Maryland 4h ago
And then Democrats get blamed for taking the painful steps necessary to fix it.
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u/RebelAlliance1701 4h ago
And get blamed for taking "too long" to fix it, so two years later they vote the GOP back in to break everything all over again.
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u/ScubaAlek 3h ago
It’s like if a guy came and trashed your house so you hired a contractor to fix it but he took too long so you let the guy who trashed your house back in to show the contractor who is boss. Insane.
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u/dblan9 6h ago
The problem is 40% of this country won't/don't want to understand the true nature of the issue. They are already being fed a ruse about how Biden is to blame because of some link to Ukraine. He singlehandedly destroyed a solidly promising economy in less than two years for no reason other than to enrich himself.
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u/Onemandrinkinggamess Colorado 6h ago
The people who understand this and who are actually willing to change it are a small minority sadly. Destroying a country’s education, like the GOP have done for decades, means destroying peoples’ ability to understand their situation, rise up, and defend themselves from the state.
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u/faith_apnea America 5h ago
The labor participation rate is at a 50 year low but they tell us unemployment is at historic lows.
Less people are working and those working folk have to pay for more than themselves in most cases.
MAGA has been a disaster over the past 10 years. They've:
- enriched only themselves
- destroyed America's standing in the world
- handed the country to religious zealots and technocrats
Trump, true to his slumlord nature, has left things mostly unlivable for future occupants.
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u/hkohne Oregon 2h ago
One thing to also consider: Remember back when this admin started cutting funding to already-approved grants for huge infrastructure projects and hundreds of arts organizations around the country? Yeah, those cuts affected those projects which then affects the "trickle across" to local economies. A bridge now doesn't get built? Nearby restaurants & stores don't see the increased traffic. A concert gets cancelled because the National Endowment for the Arts grant gets pulled? Nearby restaurants also see less traffic that one night.
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u/autotelica 1h ago
I remember when DOGE resulted in all those federal employees losing their jobs and lots of conservative cheered. "Now they can stop being lazy and get a real job!" they said.
But a lot of those folks are blue-collar workers who rely on the professional class. When Nancy the grant manager making $100K/year loses her job, she doesn't hire Bob the local plumber to snake her toilet. She gets her nephew to do it for free. She doesn't go to Barbara the stylist to get her roots touched up. She buys some hair dye at the grocery store. She doesn't buy a $30 cake from Amy the local baker to celebrate her daughter's birthday. She gets Duncan Hines to do it for $3.99. She stops taking clothes in to get dry cleaned. Because unemployed people aren't wearing "dry clean only" stuff. They also aren't getting their carpets steamed or their cars detailed.
But for some reason, Trump supporters took pleasure watching their neighbors--their fuckin' clients and customers!--be brought low...not stopping to consider that eventually they would be negatively impacted too.
I see some progressives also enjoying this kind of scadenfraude. But I can't join in. I don't have sympathy for Trump supporters facing economic hardship, but I don't rejoice in it either because I know what that means for the economy. I'm in the economy. I need people to be somewhat prosperous in order for me to have a job.
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u/random_cartoonist 6h ago
What is funny is that one many conservatives forums they claim Trump is not acting like a conservative since he's only lining his pocket and not caring about others.
That IS being a conservative.
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u/ScubaAlek 3h ago
I think they imagine conservatism to be socialism but only for their kind of people.
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u/sugarlessdeathbear 6h ago
Inflation and gas prices are up — and they're not coming down anytime soon
Not as long as Republicans have any sort of control.
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u/zubbs99 Nevada 6h ago edited 6h ago
Sorry this is paywalled out, even with bloated ads. Terrible site.
However here's the full article on Yahoo.
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u/Trix_Are_4_90Kids Missouri 6h ago
This is for all of the idiots that believed a country should be ran as a business.
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u/Under_Milkwood_1969 2h ago
The crazy thing is the entire US economy is designed to produce ‘growth’ at the expense of everything else; workers rights, consumer protection, animal welfare, environmental effects, everything is sacrificed to maximise profit.
A vaguely competent administration spends most of its time trying to prevent the economy from overheating.
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u/Dramatic_Original_55 6h ago
So, I guess you could say they've been successful, in a sense, as this was their goal all along.
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u/ckglle3lle 5h ago
Just in time for Dems to retake the House (and possibly Senate) and absorb all the blame from news media and the median voter
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u/Sea-Ambition-451 5h ago
clarification
wrecked the economy FOR US.
Trump's personal economy is doing fantastic!
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u/Late-Palpitation-959 2h ago
All the red hat cult members will keep sucking down diesel at $7 a gallon and cry about how it's Biden's fault. These people simply do not care about anyone but themselves and anyone still supporting Trump deserves to suffer financially like all the rest of us have to for their poor choices.
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u/ogreofnorth 4h ago
Sadly it is worse than reported in his CPI report. The 12 month percentage of 3.6% doesn’t even have 2 months of data. So it’s technically only 10 months of data packaged as 12. So add about another 0.5-0.6% on it. ~4.2%. Roughly over two times what most Governments including ours claims is a healthy amount of inflation.
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u/Polkawillneverdie17 5h ago
I honestly can't imagine how someone could do a better job of destroying our country.
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u/steemSTEM 5h ago
Our inflation is being driven by rampant debt spending on AI, and the stupid Iran war. Raising interest rates wont stop it, and might make it worse.
To stop inflation, you must slow corporate debt spending and end the war with Iran, getting fuel prices to normalize.
IMO all of this is too complicated for the inept Trump admin.
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u/theclansman22 4h ago
You forgot tariffs, it is also being driven by needless tariffs on your largest trading partners...
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u/Usual-Analysis-2990 5h ago
Its also too complicated for MAGA hence the ones that vote Trump because 'economy' don't understand how much destruction he has actually done. The few that will flip during THIS election cycle will inevitably flip right back when the next democratic admin doesn't fix it fast enough and has the fallout from Trumps stupidity fall on them. Because they have NO FUCKING memory or idea how the economy and its ties to a given administration and their actions work.
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u/Cephei101 5h ago
You forgot tariffs, destroying existing trade agreements, removing support for Ukraine, the absurd Iran war has spread, the ensuing energy shock and economic fallout globally.
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u/Vocabulary-Pollution 3h ago
The way to slow corporate debt spending is to raise interest rates.
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u/dontgetitwisted_fr 2h ago
There really is no other recourse to inflation than raising rates
If there was they would have found it by now
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u/QushingFleens 47m ago
Billionaires intentionally crashing the economy to buy everything at Pennie’s on the dollar.
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u/Kat_Schrodinger1 5h ago
Look, I'm not saying kamala was perfect. I'm just saying that things would have been better if she won.
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u/CheezyGoodness55 6h ago
Alt headline: “Living in the US Shows Just How Badly Trump Wrecked the Economy.”
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u/Bzr21 4h ago
Much of the damage Trump has done to our economy will be felt even decades from now - the many TRILLION$ he keeps adding to the debt - which is an economic time bomb. And starting back in 2017 with his massive tax breaks for the Epstein class - Trump alone is responsible for a larger percentage of the total debt than all of his predecessors combined .
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u/permalink_save 1h ago
November 3 2024 inflation was 2.4%. It's coming up near 4% now. Where's their rage they had during Biden's admin? Especially since he undid the work Biden did. It was soldily declining without increasing interest rates. Then Trump won and threatened tariffs and cmmpanies pivoted and baked in the higher prices. Now inflation is way up and fed reserve is raising interest rates. Literally everything is worse hnder Trump.
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u/Nthepeanutgallery 14m ago
The GOP could have stopped him at any time they're collectively just as responsible for the mess the country is in.
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u/hoffman4 3h ago
He is doing Putin’s bidding. Wrecked with intention so he can become oligarch rich.
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u/dirty_cuban New Jersey 2h ago
That’s his goal. He said he wants inflation to pay off the national debt quickly. It’s not wrecked, it’s on purpose. 80 million idiots voted for this
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u/RobutNotRobot 1h ago
77 million people that I don't want to live in the same country with anymore did this
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u/rilmarie Texas 1h ago
Say it just a bit louder for the people in the back… TRUMP IS AN IDIOT and HE F**ked US ALL!
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u/notfeelany 5h ago
At this point, There should be no more hedging/disclaiming/prefacing or any other defensive framing (ie "I know both sides can be.... Yada Yada Yada).
We should proudly say with a full chest that YES Democrats ARE better for the economy 100% of the time.
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u/corrector300 5h ago
no no, trump has said many times that all the farmers and truckers and ... just need to fight through the pain! It'll all be over when they're out of work and private equity owns everything.
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u/ProfessionalKey7356 4h ago
Trump is running this country like his businesses. Bankrupt and corrupt.
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u/Silver_Newspaper6208 4h ago
Gas is down about 30 cents per gallon off the recent peak in my neck of WA. I kind of wonder how much is demand destruction from folks who have stopped all but essential driving, and those who lost jobs.
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u/BinaryPill Australia 4h ago
I suppose the thing here also is the US economy should be roaring with the AI boom (at least right now - a crash seems like a real possibility). To botch the economy while in the middle of a massive tech boom is one heck of an achievement.
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u/Talrynn_Sorrowyn 4h ago
WA state officials announced they claim inflation only rose 3.5% this year & that the COLA for next year's minimum wage is only $0.60 - after federal income tax, that won't be enough to cover even my annual rent increase much less utilies hikes, insurance hikes & food cost increases.
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u/AvailableReporter484 4h ago
This shit is irrelevant.
You’re either sane and you’ve been aware of what’s happening and who’s to blame since 2016 or you’re insane and you’ll just continue to believe whatever you want in spite of all the evidence and data to the contrary.
Facts and figures will not sway them. They are not operating on logic.
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u/siouxbee1434 3h ago
Sadly, I suspect the actual damage has not yet been felt and it will be much worse than expected-thanks to the felon who is clueless about economics
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u/Sweet-Emu-7698 3h ago
He’s gettin rid of the illegals and that all the MAGAs are concerned with. Why? Just ask a MAGA. They’ll be straight with you.
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