r/politics • • 12h ago

Possible Paywall IRS Hides Report on How Trump’s Tax Cuts Have Ruined America | The IRS is refusing to publish a report on the real impacts of Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill.”

https://newrepublic.com/post/216605/irs-hides-report-trump-tax-cuts-one-big-beautiful-bill
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u/blues111 Michigan 12h ago

I mean cutting Medicaid, SNAP was pretty fucked up and will only take actual effect after the midterms because they know it'll look bad

Like a fucked up reverse Robin hood steal from the poor to give to the rich

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u/MiddleAgedSponger 12h ago

It's already bad and some of the worse parts haven't even gone into effect yet. Diaper Don will convince his followers, with the help of the media, that this is all the democrats fault.

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u/starliteburnsbrite 8h ago

in an age of limitless access to everyone through phones, social media, and the internet, there should be no excuse for the Dems to not have a better strategy for opposing conservative mainstream media control other than, 'uh, i guess they own it all'

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u/New_git 3h ago

That was why they went so hard with "fake news". It was to delegitimize real information with their own "do your own research" instead of trusting institutional facts.

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u/whatproblems 11h ago

and then blame dems after they take congress

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u/Faux-Foe 11h ago

That’s not reverse Robin Hood, that’s capitalism.

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u/thebhguy9900 9h ago

And then they'll blame the Dems for these changes, while MAGATs applaud.

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u/xXBassHero99Xx 11h ago

But Robinhood only makes sense as a concept because steal from the poor and give to the rich is the default way it goes.

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u/FinalHexReturns 9h ago

You can't understand the concept of 'reverse' ?

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u/RufioXIII America 9h ago

He's saying reverse of Robinhood is the status quo of how things have been for most of human existence. Robinhood only makes sense because it inverts that status quo.

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u/BoofsaMillion 5h ago

A reverse Robin hood would just be a tax collector with a gun "You've just been audited." BANG!

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u/Pubs01 12h ago

he gutted the irs so he could rob the country. huge hires need to happen in a lot of federal watch dog groups

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u/Wildpony03 9h ago

The IRS is what holds tax cheats accountable.

Trump weakening the agency is what his donors have wanted for decades.

But there is a drawback it puts the IRS in the spotlight so the next admin would focus on strengthening the agency since it feels like the GOP are on the road to becoming a minority party.

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u/Your_Momma_Said 6h ago

The CEO of the IRS milked the last corporation he worked for. Pumped the stock and left it for the next guy. He was able to sell all the stock he owned without penalty because he was tapped by his buddy Don to run a government agency.

Literally make millions off the company, then after he left the stock tanked because he wasn't 100% truthful about where some contracts came from (not overt fraud, but not real customers either). He also seems to be drunk 90% of the time, and cared more about having butts in seats than actual productivity.

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u/Hawgdestroyerxtreme 5h ago

they need to fire 100% of people hired after 2024 in all agencies, and a few special cases of people hired before 2024.

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u/jest4fun 12h ago

Ahead of the midterm elections, the Trump administration is withholding detailed information that will illustrate how President Donald Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill Act hurt millions of Americans. The data from the IRS was initially scheduled to be released in July and updated in September, but the agency hasn’t filed either

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u/Wildpony03 10h ago

Back in 2019 there was an article that detailed how Trump's 2018 tax cuts were going to have dangerous impacts 10 years from now,

Its a lot worse now than then because Trump is running out of things to cuts,

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u/AgreeAndSubmit 10h ago

I remember that. 

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u/Forsaken_Area_6690 11h ago

I'm a single professional engineer and my taxes did not decrease at all.

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u/NRTS_it 10h ago

Safe to say you make less than 400K a year ah?

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u/19683dw Wisconsin 10h ago

My wife and I had a significantly smaller refund than multiple years before

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u/InevitableAd8511 2h ago

Last year we got a refund of 2k. This year we owe 3600. Our finances and earnings are identical.

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u/SkateboyAtl 9h ago

Please stop wording it as a refund. You overpaid your taxes and you gave the government a tax free loan.

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u/19683dw Wisconsin 8h ago

Sure. The point is we didn't change our declarations, nor our income, and yet our liability significantly rose.

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u/nowwhatdoidowiththis 6h ago

Did you have a kid turn 17’ in 2025. That will cut your credits by $1500

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u/19683dw Wisconsin 6h ago

Nope, I didn't

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u/one_mean_sun 9h ago

I am recently divorced and so I moved from paying taxes with dependents to single when our son grew up and can confirm single professionals got fucked by 2018. Holy shit what a difference.

I'm especially fucked because 2018 also changed the tax burden for alimony. It used to be the person getting spousal support paid taxes on what they received, now the payer is responsible.

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u/P1xelHunter78 Michigan 10h ago

I'm a aircraft mechanic and my taxes went up.

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u/steemSTEM 7h ago

Married, filing jointly. Ours also did not get lower as a result of this tax bill. It was similar to prior years.

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u/Clean_Figure6651 4h ago

As a professional engineer but with a family, I got a few grand more back

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u/RedLanternScythe Indiana 11h ago

Another instance of "It's not a problem if it never gets reported." Just like covid numbers.

"Nothing bad can happen, it can only good happen"

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u/tiutome 12h ago

And then there was FOIA because that report out of the IRS screams, farts or barfs 🤮 National Security! The public has a right to know and it can’t be redacted because again, it’s an IRS report.

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u/Traditional_Sign4941 10h ago

Republic - government as a public matter.

Literally should be illegal for a republic to hide information from the public. That information belongs to the people because the government does too.

Whoever is hiding this should spend the rest of their miserable fucking lives locked away in a prison.

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u/Classic-Shake6517 3h ago

They found a loophole: they just ignore the parts they don't like and nothing happens. Laws don't mean anything if there's no way to enforce them and no consequences for those who ignore them.

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u/ThrowingTonsils 9h ago

I still don't believe the IRS has the infrastructure, manpower, or resources, to keep after even half the taxpayers in this country, & they're largely saved by the fact that the rest of us are still (foolishly) playing this game on the honor system. Realistically, what could they even do in the event of a national tax strike?

And now with these new changes elsewhere to do with COMPASS, SNAP and the like, where they expect everyone to turn in what amounts to weekly internship hours to prove they work 25 hours every week? The US government doesn't have the fucking resources to police all this shit. They're banking on all of us just going along. They don't deserve such compliance anymore, the public trust is decimated. We keep making it easy for these shits and we need to reevaluate.

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u/DartTheDragoon I voted 8h ago

Realistically, what could they even do in the event of a national tax strike?

Most of the responses to individuals not paying their taxes are automated. They will send out late notices, charge you penalties and interest, drain your bank account, require your employer to adjust your withholdings, and garnish your wages with minimal manual human intervention.

The US government can remain solvent longer then you can stop them from getting what they are owed.

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u/No-Garbage6027 8h ago

To add on, a tax strike would require a metric crap ton of employees to file new W-4s so companies like ADP stop withholding. Not socially possible.

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u/ComradeJohnS 7h ago

and then they can just make a new law stating avoiding taxes is gay, and arrest people for it.

it would happen the minute they thought it was even catching on as a thought crime lol.

we would need states to stop playing and see how that goes.

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u/Malodoror 10h ago

Like Texas won’t release maternal mortality rates until after the midterms.

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u/Cloaked42m South Carolina 6h ago

Don't forget, the worst parts of the BBB don't hit us until January.

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u/raerae1991 11h ago

Because republicans don’t care about fiscal responsibility or actual governing

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u/RefrigeratorNo1160 7h ago

They really just keep pissing on us and telling us it's raining huh

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u/BJW_8 4h ago

Hey, did he ever release his tax returns or are we waiting for that, too?

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u/xXBassHero99Xx 11h ago

"It's good actually!" 

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u/HeatWaveToTheCrowd 11h ago

I hate this timeline.

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u/gopeepants 7h ago

They did a horrible job of timing it. Letters have already went out before midterms warning telling people their SNAP will be cut, their Medicaid will be cut, and health insurance premiums will go up.

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u/BSA_DEMAX51 4h ago

MoSt tRaNsPaReNt AdMiNiStRaTiOn EvEr

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u/elammcknight 2h ago

It cannot stay hidden forever. And it needs to be made so simplified anyone can understand exactly how they screwed over the middle class and its children's futures!

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u/Memitim America 8h ago

Transparency, honesty, and reality are poisons to Republicans, hence why they spend all of their time making up dumb shit about other people and covering up crime.

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u/Soberdonkey69 7h ago

This is what pedo republicans want, they bury the truth and prevail through lies. They are against democracy and will only serve their elite ring, fucking every citizen over for it.

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u/IsawaShugenja 10h ago

FOIA the crap out of it.

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u/ebow77 Massachusetts 10h ago

"The most transparent administration EVAR!"

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u/Mysterious_Floor_868 United Kingdom 9h ago

Transparently corrupt

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u/no1ofimport 9h ago

Must make the current administration look bad otherwise that orange idiot would be bragging about it. So they won’t release this until after midterms

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u/diveboydive 8h ago

Is there anyone left in the US Government who doesn’t bow to King Trump? How do you replace 100s of thousands of compromised government workers when he’s finally jailed?

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u/Master_Heron_7011 7h ago

Im waiting for those post election leaks

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u/Mundane-Evidence2795 2h ago

Not just tax cuts. Probably the biggest impact personally is the discontinuation of healthcare subsidy that was extended during COVID. Our $349/month bill went to $2499/month for a family of four. Not that we can afford that or anything.

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u/oldpasswordforgot 7m ago

I am still amazed how the right-wing is incapable of original thoughts (*) and how much they can't handle intelligently-named bills pushed by normal people. The 2021 "Build Back Better" (the real "BBB") Act was aptly named bill that perfectly described what they were trying to do, after the orange one trashed the USA's economy.

I guess president miller & co wanted to ruin the "BBB" acronym forever or, because they already had a history of reusing existing acronyms because they can't think of anything new by themselves, they were just dumb & lazy.

(*) The orange one re-used the "MAGA" slogan that reagan employed, itself being a bad attempt to recycle the "Make Britain Great Again" slogan used by effing maggie over in the UK.

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u/Kat_Schrodinger1 8h ago

Look, I'm not saying kamala was perfect. I'm just saying things would have been better if she won.