r/pcmasterrace • u/3nnb • 9d ago

News/Article The PS5 system itself is running on pc

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Recently, we have seen massive developments in PS5 emulators (such as shadPS4 and Kyty), and how rapidly they have progressed in a short period.

​Now, developers have successfully booted the actual PS5 system software on PC.

​If this momentum continues in the future, it will eventually allow players to run PS5 exclusives directly on PC, marking the end of the era of console exclusivity.

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u/FriendlyKillerCroc 8d ago

My favourite part about Reddit right now is the programming subreddit having rules in place so they can effectively ignore that AI exists because they hate how wrong they were about it for years lol

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u/emelrad12 8d ago

Yeah.... And totally not because all of those subs are getting flooded by low quality submissions that were done in a single prompt.

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u/FriendlyKillerCroc 8d ago

No, no. I don't mean the rule about not allowing LLM-generated content.

They literally do not allow you to talk about LLMs. They have designed a policy that doesn't explicitly say that but they left it open enough to allow them to delete everything related to LLMs because it's not relevant enough. It's hilarious.

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u/Ilikeyounott 8d ago

Is it a problem? Go to ie. /r/claude if you want to see people talk about Claude? If you want to read about things like programming fundamentals you go to /r/programming?

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u/FriendlyKillerCroc 8d ago

Yes it's a problem lol They can't even move in the room because of the size of the elephant but they are all just staring at the floor secretly hoping it leaves of its own accord while posting mostly shitty articles about small projects people are working on, and making sure none of them mention LLMs in any capacity.

The name of the subreddit does not imply its about fundamentals, it suggests that it covers the whole spectrum of programming. If someone went there with no knowledge of the industry, they would come away with never even knowing that the biggest change in the industry's history happened lol

I'm guessing you are a regular there?

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u/AliceCode 8d ago

Programming is not the software industry. Programming communities are not specifically for people working in the industry, they are specifically for programmers to talk about programming.

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u/FriendlyKillerCroc 8d ago

Yes, the very task that is being rapidly turned on its head by LLMs. We went from writing basically all of our code manually to very little of it in about 5 years, and it is still improving. Do you not think it's a bit strange to ignore that tools existence in a subreddit about that task?

It would be like a cars subreddit completely ignoring electric cars exist now, except its even worse than that lol

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u/AliceCode 8d ago

I think that when I go to programming communities, I want to talk about programming, not LLMs.

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u/FriendlyKillerCroc 8d ago

I love programming and still feel pain from coding slowly becoming a worthless skill after I spent so many years improving at it. But I think it's fairly pointless to a part of a community that buries their heads in the sand regarding the reality of the topic. I can adapt my skills to the new world I am in but I couldn't do that if /r/programming was my primary community.

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u/AliceCode 8d ago

No one is burying their heads in the sand, we're just tired of hearing about the very shallow subject that is LLMs. Wow, you typed in a prompt and it spit some code out. You can only talk about that maybe 5 times before it stops being interesting. I want to talk about which programming languages have the best metaprogramming features, not which LLMs have the highest rate limit.

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u/emelrad12 8d ago

Coding is not becoming worthless, just that priorities are changing. You no longer need be fast at it, instead the target is knowing what is good and what is bad code, otherwise very quickly you will lose all advantages of ai, and regress to much slower than pre-ai working speed.

It doesn't matter that you solved 10x more bugs in a day than without ai, when 90% of said bugs are the lack of knowledge of the user to know how to code, and having to fully rely on whatever the ai agent says.

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u/BoopinSnoots24-7 8d ago

Might be time for a subreddit like "r/traditionalprogramming", because to discuss programming now without involving LLMs is akin to expecting r/creativewriting to only include work done on typewriters by candlelight.

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u/AliceCode 8d ago

No, you can go to /r/vibecoding if you want to talk about vibe coding. The programming communities should be about programming. I can't believe I even have to explain this to LLM brained dimwits.

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u/tjohns96 8d ago

The way the industry is now it would be like banning discussion of graphing calculators in a math subreddit ngl

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u/Arucious 9800X3D, 5090 FE, 32GB C36 6000MHz, 4TB 980 Pro 7d ago

Anyone that has used anything above a $20 ChatGPT plan understands that it’s been tremendously useful for a while, and that everyone talking about how it writes garbage code is talking out of their ass.

Put it in the hands of someone that knows what they’re doing and a skilled developer becomes very dangerous, very fast.

Granted, that does not get rid of the very real problems that do exist with it. It does use a tremendous amount of resources. It does drive up the prices of compute. It does disproportionately affect marginalized communities with data center expansion. It does cause learning to stagnate in students and junior employees. It does widen the gap between senior engineers and entry-level folks. It does have staggering implications for sectors of the workforce.

But useless? Hardly, and anybody using a frontier model for the last six months has understood that very clearly.

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u/morpheousmorty 8d ago

I use these tools. I review PRs made with these tools. What were we wrong about exactly because they still generate code that I wouldn't want to maintain.

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u/FriendlyKillerCroc 8d ago

I think you should read my comment again because you seem to have misread it.

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u/morpheousmorty 8d ago

Who is the "they" in this part?

they hate how wrong they were about it for years lol

Reddit or the programming subreddit?

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u/FriendlyKillerCroc 8d ago

Most of reddit.