The PS5 system itself is running on pc

[u/3nnb]

Recently, we have seen massive developments in PS5 emulators (such as shadPS4 and Kyty), and how rapidly they have progressed in a short period.

​Now, developers have successfully booted the actual PS5 system software on PC.

​If this momentum continues in the future, it will eventually allow players to run PS5 exclusives directly on PC, marking the end of the era of console exclusivity.

[u/TrollTollTony]

The general public would be shocked at how much software development is ai "assisted" these days. I went to a software engineering conference a few months ago and there was a survey that said something like 90% of the coders there use agentic ai for coding every day. A few years ago that number (for any ai use) was under 10%. These aren't vibe coders. This was for embedded systems that run our factories and control our vehicles. Seasoned veterans, senior/staff engineers coding with ai everyday. It spread so fast.

[u/FriendlyKillerCroc → u/TrollTollTony]

My favourite part about Reddit right now is the programming subreddit having rules in place so they can effectively ignore that AI exists because they hate how wrong they were about it for years lol

[u/emelrad12 → u/FriendlyKillerCroc]

Yeah.... And totally not because all of those subs are getting flooded by low quality submissions that were done in a single prompt.

[u/FriendlyKillerCroc → u/emelrad12]

No, no. I don't mean the rule about not allowing LLM-generated content.

They literally do not allow you to talk about LLMs. They have designed a policy that doesn't explicitly say that but they left it open enough to allow them to delete everything related to LLMs because it's not relevant enough. It's hilarious.

[u/Ilikeyounott → u/FriendlyKillerCroc]

Is it a problem? Go to ie. /r/claude if you want to see people talk about Claude? If you want to read about things like programming fundamentals you go to /r/programming?

[u/FriendlyKillerCroc → u/Ilikeyounott]

Yes it's a problem lol They can't even move in the room because of the size of the elephant but they are all just staring at the floor secretly hoping it leaves of its own accord while posting mostly shitty articles about small projects people are working on, and making sure none of them mention LLMs in any capacity.

The name of the subreddit does not imply its about fundamentals, it suggests that it covers the whole spectrum of programming. If someone went there with no knowledge of the industry, they would come away with never even knowing that the biggest change in the industry's history happened lol

I'm guessing you are a regular there?

[u/AliceCode → u/FriendlyKillerCroc]

Programming is not the software industry. Programming communities are not specifically for people working in the industry, they are specifically for programmers to talk about programming.

[u/FriendlyKillerCroc → u/AliceCode]

Yes, the very task that is being rapidly turned on its head by LLMs. We went from writing basically all of our code manually to very little of it in about 5 years, and it is still improving. Do you not think it's a bit strange to ignore that tools existence in a subreddit about that task?

It would be like a cars subreddit completely ignoring electric cars exist now, except its even worse than that lol

[u/AliceCode → u/FriendlyKillerCroc]

I think that when I go to programming communities, I want to talk about programming, not LLMs.

[u/FriendlyKillerCroc → u/AliceCode]

I love programming and still feel pain from coding slowly becoming a worthless skill after I spent so many years improving at it. But I think it's fairly pointless to a part of a community that buries their heads in the sand regarding the reality of the topic. I can adapt my skills to the new world I am in but I couldn't do that if /r/programming was my primary community.

[u/BoopinSnoots24-7 → u/AliceCode]

Might be time for a subreddit like "r/traditionalprogramming", because to discuss programming now without involving LLMs is akin to expecting r/creativewriting to only include work done on typewriters by candlelight.

[u/tjohns96 → u/Ilikeyounott]

The way the industry is now it would be like banning discussion of graphing calculators in a math subreddit ngl

[u/Arucious → u/FriendlyKillerCroc]

Anyone that has used anything above a $20 ChatGPT plan understands that it’s been tremendously useful for a while, and that everyone talking about how it writes garbage code is talking out of their ass.

Put it in the hands of someone that knows what they’re doing and a skilled developer becomes very dangerous, very fast.

Granted, that does not get rid of the very real problems that do exist with it. It does use a tremendous amount of resources. It does drive up the prices of compute. It does disproportionately affect marginalized communities with data center expansion. It does cause learning to stagnate in students and junior employees. It does widen the gap between senior engineers and entry-level folks. It does have staggering implications for sectors of the workforce.

But useless? Hardly, and anybody using a frontier model for the last six months has understood that very clearly.

[u/morpheousmorty → u/FriendlyKillerCroc]

I use these tools. I review PRs made with these tools. What were we wrong about exactly because they still generate code that I wouldn't want to maintain.

[u/FriendlyKillerCroc → u/morpheousmorty]

I think you should read my comment again because you seem to have misread it.

[u/morpheousmorty → u/FriendlyKillerCroc]

Who is the "they" in this part?

they hate how wrong they were about it for years lol

Reddit or the programming subreddit?

[u/FriendlyKillerCroc → u/morpheousmorty]

Most of reddit. 

[u/LeonBlade → u/TrollTollTony]

To be fair, I think that poll is a little biased depending on who was at the conference.

[u/HustlinInTheHall → u/[deleted]]

All software systems are tested extensively with unit and integration tests. You'll have bugs because we always have bugs but AI software is typically very high quality if the needs were documented properly and the scope of work is kept small so it doesnt start creating systems and functions that arent necessary. 

[u/Ilikeyounott → u/HustlinInTheHall]

Sure but the same AI can easily go with the flow and "fix" the tests so they wrongly pass 😅

[u/SpiderDoodleDoo → u/TrollTollTony]

People will hate hearing this, but if you aren't leveraging AI you are handicapping yourself.

If you are a good coder, AI is only a benefit. You can have AI look over your code and if you know what you are doing, will be able to spot obvious bullshit and also enhancements that would have gone over looked.

Like, just raw dogging it with only AI while understanding nothing about IT is going to be a disaster.

But if you know what you are doing, having an evil algorithm with the entire knowledge base from every open IT forum and github is an incredible tool.

Instead of scouring forums from 2015 and reading articles that might be helpful for hours, you can just ask the devil and it'll provide sources within a few minutes max.

AI, for now, is not going to replace competent application developers, system administrators, cyber security, etc. but it does make their job much easier.