r/pcmasterrace • • Jun 17 '26

News/Article Ubisoft is celebrating

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u/Giohwe Jun 17 '26

But piracy won’t make the game work if it needs to connect to an online server/service that is no longer active.

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u/Apprehensive_Bag_365 Jun 17 '26

Or you do the hitman approach:

Make your own fucking servers

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u/DarkHero6661 Jun 17 '26

....Which is one of the solutions proposed by SKG. That people are allowed to make their own servers.

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u/Orbitoldrop Jun 17 '26

People have been sued for making their own servers for a dead game.

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u/Revolutionary_Row683 Jun 17 '26

Absolutely something that people should be angry over. They're basically just abusing intellectual property laws that were made for a very different kind of product.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '26

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u/Revolutionary_Row683 Jun 18 '26

Technically that's littering and the person picking it up would simply be removing waste.

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u/itsmebenji69 R7700X | RTX 4070ti | 32go | Neo G9 Jun 18 '26

Idk about your country. In mine, if that happens, or say you find someone’s cash on the ground, legally you’re supposed to go to the police and give it to them.

After that they wait for two years, if no one has claimed it, then and only then you can come back and claim it since you found it and it seemingly belonged to no one, so now it’s yours.

In practice it doesn’t happen. But legally yes, if you found what someone lost/left in the street and take it, it’s stealing

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u/Altar_Quest_Fan Jun 17 '26

Sure but at least you didn’t spend money on a game that was taken away from you. 

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u/DefinitelyRussian Jun 17 '26

preservation is not just about playing games, it's keeping history alive for the future

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u/invisi1407 R5 7600X | RX 9070 XT Jun 17 '26

Do we really need to keep every single game ever made alive for historical reasons? Sure there have been made a lot of great games that have shaped other games and changed the way of gaming, but there's also a lot of games that are just nearly literal clones of other games that wouldn't add significant value to the history of games.

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u/The_L1ne Jun 18 '26

It is about the option to keep the game alive you want to be alive or even resurrect a game for a LAN-Party with the girls & boys 20 years later.

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u/invisi1407 R5 7600X | RX 9070 XT Jun 18 '26

I know, and I fully agree and support it. :)

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u/PolicyWonka Jun 17 '26

If you need online servers, pirating the game won’t work regardless unless you’re using stolen keys or something.

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u/AmQuestionMark Jun 17 '26

True, if only there was some kind of ….. online fix for that 🤔

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u/HoverPowered Jun 17 '26

this guy knows ball

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u/Racika Jun 17 '26

I love playing spacewar

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u/HannasAnarion Jun 17 '26

What do you even think "Stop Killing Games" is about?

See this is how I know that the whole thing is based on misinformation and memes.

This has nothing to do with "games being taken away from you", it is only about games that require a company to spend money and run servers and pay people to maintain them to keep a live-service online game functional.

The demands of "stop killing games" are for the government to force companies to keep providing those services for free forever to everyone who paid them for access to it even once, even if fewer than 100 people total have used the service in question for five years in a row, as was the case with The Crew, the game that started this absurdity.

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u/catrinus Jun 17 '26

not quite. the demand is to keep the game playable (not kill it, it's in the name). it doesn't matter if it's maintaining a server or giving the option for private servers.

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u/Upstairs-Prompt2662 Jun 17 '26

Stop killing demands that online games remain playable even if the Server shuts down. There are tons of games that have singld player and dont need a server to run but do run over an online server anyway. That are the most agreages ones.

Anthem is an example of that. That game eorks completely fine in singleplayer but you cant play it anymore because you need to run the game over the servers, which were shut down.

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u/Original_Mac_Tonight Jun 18 '26

FYI its "egregious"

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u/Warmest_Machine Jun 17 '26

The demands of "stop killing games" are for the government to force companies to keep providing those services for free forever

SKG has stated time and time again that they are not asking for unlimited support, and yet time and time again the same lie is repeated.

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u/Icy_Relationship_401 Jun 17 '26

No we are only asking for every multiplayer game to come with a local multiplayer like the good old day and a offline mode.

Monster hunter games are online games but they also have an offline mode that doesn’t hinder the mechanics.

So how about you get your clearly bribed ass out of her bootlicker

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u/FoolishCarbohydrate Jun 17 '26

No, but it may get the point across.

Not gonna spend money on a game I know for sure will eventually be unplayable.

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u/PolicyWonka Jun 17 '26

Hasn’t that always been an option?

I’d say it’s safe to assume that every single online game will eventually become unplayable at some point in the future.

Hell, I’d say this about any game because I have a suspicion that Windows 28 isn’t going to work well with a game developed around Windows 10. There will eventually be straight up compatibility issues

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u/nemec Jun 17 '26

No, but it may get the point across.

Well it's working great so far /s

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u/Ok-Fudge-380 Jun 17 '26

What point? That devs need better DRM? Why the fuck are you playing games made by companies you hate? Spend your time and money of games made by developers thay agree with you.

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u/FoolishCarbohydrate Jun 18 '26

I already do. Thats literally my point.

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u/Ok-Fudge-380 Jun 18 '26

Your point was that you should pirate games you don't want to support. How about just not support them financially as well as not showing them that their games are popular by driving up piracy numbers. Just don't play them. Pirating them just shows that their games are still good enough that people want to play them.

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u/FoolishCarbohydrate Jun 18 '26

Full disclosure I had partially forgotten what the topic was when I responded.

I don't personally pirate games, at least not new ones. When I said "I already do", I meant I don't buy games from companies or devs that are shitty people.

However, whether or not the game is good has nothing to do with the company half the time. There are plenty of good games made by companies I don't want to financially support, and while I don't personally pirate, I'm at the point where if someone's gonna play the game regardless I'd rather they NOT support the shitty devs and/or company.

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u/marr Jun 17 '26

It might. People have managed to pirate MMOs before.

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u/I_Am_A_Goo_Man Jun 17 '26

Modders will solve this issue with a lot of games just as a form of protest now instead of interest 

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u/Ok-Mistake-2080 Jun 17 '26

if the game is popular enough they will make it work with own servers

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u/CodiwanOhNoBe Jun 17 '26

Actually this isn’t true, in the case of MMOs, private servers make the game work. In the case of always online, it can be hacked to fix that, just talk to EA and their sim city debacle.

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u/Traditional_Delay742 Jun 17 '26

Then don't buy the new games it is simple as that

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u/fairs1912 RTX 3070TI 8GB - R7 5700X3D - 16GB 3200MHz Jun 17 '26

it also wouldn't be the case is stop killing games was passed as a law, you can't force developers to maintain and moderate servers forever because it has a cost. the proposal was to give people the tools to self host those games after the EoL date was reached and servers taken down

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u/Azuras-Becky AMD K6-2 400Mhz, 32MB SD100 RAM, 20GB Quantum Fireball HDD Jun 17 '26

Star Wars Galaxies is still trucking along!

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u/Zeroth1989 Jun 17 '26

Been proven time and time again, piracy will make the game live on even if it has server requirements. They will make it work.

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u/LaMadonnaZoccolissim Jun 17 '26

Private servers exist.

An obsessed enough handful of nerds can make a server for any game.

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u/Ehcksit Jun 17 '26

It's more difficult, but people have made plenty of private servers, both for games that are still in service and those that went down.

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u/iGoonToArt Jun 18 '26

They made multiplayer work on pirated Forza Horizon 6, it can definitely be done

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u/whitedevilee Jun 18 '26

Ehm.... yes, it will. Unless it's completly hard coded into every function of the game. And even then, they will find a way. Best example for me was Just Cause 3. AFter release they had massive problems with their online servers. You couldn't play the game legimitaly because you weill get an error every few minutes "can't connect to the leaderboard servers"

The Pirated version changed the Server address so that the game wouldn't try to "call home" and you can play forever!

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u/RayHorizon Jun 18 '26

Well get a grip on yourselfes and stop playing those games.

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u/axelkoffel Jun 18 '26

There are ways to do it with alternative network, but the experience is so shitty, that I wouldn't recommend it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '26

There are private WoW Server for many years.

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u/Hyperbolic_Mess Jun 20 '26

People can make this work it's just that currently they get taken down. Reviving dead games should be legal

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u/Jealous-Juggernaut85 Jun 17 '26

well technically the game will work, you strip away its encryption and online verification and then get a modder to create an online patch for it .

It will all depend on the community.