The Lost Crown is an amazing game, shame it didn't sell as well. For me it was worth the 40ish euro pricetags for the amount of time and fun I got out of it.
If you like your Metroidvania's with DMC like combat it is definitely worth picking up, especially when on discount.
Ever since they ripped The Crew, which I paid for, out of my library I stopped even playing the ubisoft games I already owned. Cool as the Black Flag remake looks fuck Ubisoft.
I don't want to give ideas to anyone, but the Black flag have skull and bones in it, right? All u need is to open the drawer, take back yout dusty hat and sail the seas again.
same here, over a thousand hours in division one and two. uninstalled all ubislop when their new terms and conditions were updated a few months back. put them on ignore on steam too, along with EA.
anybody with their attitude can get bent.
For me it's Trackmania Turbo. Goated game but i with i had paid the extra price on steam since i'll barely ever open Ubisoft's launcher just to play it
Nope, just doing the campaigns. It's relaxing between the shooters and other realtime stuff I usually play. I like to be able to roll a cig or get a beer from the fridge without havong to worry about respawning or stuff like that.
What? Enjoying their games does not equal white knighting. "Having a different opinion the the reddit hive mind? What a white knight." get out of here with that false equivalency fallacy
The only Ubisoft title that could bring me back would be another Splinter Cell. Astounds me that Blacklist was recevied generally well and sold well yet SP has been dead ever since.
but that's kinda the problem isn't it? if they try to make a game that people keep telling they want and it doesn't sell, why should they keep trying? I did buy it and it's really a great game and I wish ubisoft would make more of those. but now they won't and we get more AC Remakes probably, cause I can't imagine that black flag won't sell well.
I mean, my opinion- they should cease to exist as a company in their current form. Only way to regain trust would be to fire the entire C suite and start over.
But that's still a problem. if the studio that created The Lost Crown goes Indie and wants to make a spiritual successor who's going to give them money for it? It's just a risk probably nobody is willing to take. the best solution is to vote with your wallet and that means buying what you like and not buying what you don't like. you can hate ubisoft all you want but if they go down (and that's a big if) they probably get replaced or bought up by another big company.
I mean I had fun with AC Mirage, Valhalla, Outlaws, and Lost Crown. I played them all on Game Pass and PS Extra though. They can make good games, but their name is tarnished and I don't think they can ever recover based on that alone. Once you have that negative reputation, especially in the gaming world, you're done.
Having said all that, I do not want to use their launcher ever or even buy anything on their storefront. I'll try their games on Game Pass or PS Extra though.
Wait, so people who suck at video games cant play video games? I play for my enjoyment and because i have no life, not to make anyone else happy or to compete with anybody. (Yes i suck at video games)
I think reddit vastly overestimates these kind of boycotts. If they produced an amazing game, the people boycotting would be well under 1%. Very few people will follow through regardless.
The last game that they got me for was Breakpoint. Their marketing was top notch, "Discover your Breakpoint".. well mine was the absolute garbage you pushed out after marketing a completely different game. And Far Cry? Same game since 3. Assassin's Creed is no better. In Origins, I didn't have to pull a torch out. I could light an arrow and then carry that out instead. They removed it with Odyssey, you just put your bow up in 2 seconds. So many little touches got lost in the race to pump out another carbon copy with new characters and anything but a damn hidden blade.
After the fiasco that was Unity, I refused to buy their games at all for a good while. Then when I did, it was only second hand so the money didn't go to them mostly. I did break and get the dlc for odessy when I finally got around to trying it
Ubisoft have had a bad rep for quite sometime now, wouldnt it make more sense to stop buying from them if your last few purchases sucked?
I picked up Mirage as I heard it was closer to the original games and had a good time with it but I actively avoid anything Ubisoft otherwise. They have a lot to do before people trust them again like other studios.
Bethesda went the same way for me, loved their early work but fallout 76 and starfield showed me that the old bethesda was gone. ES6 might change that but I aint holding my breath.
The team was dissolved as a result of the disappointing sales numbers. Single player games don't usually have random spikes in sales months after release, it gets pretty clear if it is a flop or not during the launch week when the sales are the highest. Its always a steady drop from then on.
Lost crown sold 1.3 million copy during first year and 9 month ago they announced 3 millions played. Disappointing sales is another way to say unrealistic expectations...
For a company the size of Ubisoft, 1.3 million copies isn't enough to keep the lights on. For a more recent example, AC shadows sold 3 million copies and the conpany is still on the edge of bankruptcy.
yup, it didn't sell good enough, ppl who do the "duh unrealistic expectations" are just fanboys trying to cope cause what information are they making that assertion with? do they know what the expectations were?
fact is that the game sold poorly in part cause making a new Prince of Persia game as a metroidvania was a stupid decision, the game was too expensive for a metroidvania, so on.
Yes, though it's hard to say how well it did when we do not know the budget that went into it. If they put 30M into it and got 60M out, they were just expecting too much. If they put 60M into it and got 60M out, or worse numbers than that, then the question becomes why was the budget so high, did it NEED such a budget, and/or the game was a flop.
Considering it was fairly well reviewed, cost is likely the driving failure factor.
I mean if you look at the Metroidvania genre/market they 100% had unrealistic expectations. They made an incredible game, but priced it at what $50 on launch I believe which is way above market value (around 2x the average release price) for Metroidvania games. Look at Hollow Knight/Silksong, or Ender Lillies/Magnolia & Blasphemous 1 & 2. They’re all $25 or less MSRP and regularly go on sale for $10-$15. Prince of Persia was released June 2023 at $50 and didn’t go on sale until March 2024 where it dropped to $30. Even the sale was priced above market value for that type of game. It wasn’t until May 2024 basically a year after release that it dropped to $25 on sale which is a reasonable price. 5 months later in October 2024 they disbanded the team when the game still hadn’t gone on sale for under $20. They were set up to fail from the start by pushing unrealistic pricing for a game that while good had a ton of much better priced competition.
is this a bit to just prove what I said? nothing you said there has any proof behind it, do you know what the budget was for the game? do you know what the expectations actually were? no, you don't.
yes the price was something we can call out but that is not "unrealistic expectations" nor is it the only reason it failed, the expectations is what they saw they could make on return at the price they set it at and no one knows if said expectations were unrealistic or not. For all we know, they priced the game as they did and had perfectly realistic expectations on the returns and the game failed to meet those.
the fanboys of this game seriously go on insane mental gymnastics to try anything to not say this game flopped or blame everything but the game itself for the failure... sigh.
btw, the game was set up to fail by the devs from the start, by making a new prince of persia game as a metroidvania, so a niche as heck genre that for an old IP where the fans it has had not interest in + brand new character and story, the devs very much were part of why this game failed.
no jokez i believe if game slike these were cheaper, they would sell MUCH better and probably make more. I though about buying it, but decided it wass too expensive
People complain about Ubisoft and celebrate their downfall because they are sick of the open world slop, however the games that flop aren't the open world slop, it's the more unique ones.
If they kept only making slop and didn't investing in making niche games, making games and porting games for new platforms like the Vita, Wii U and IPhones, they would be much more financially healthy
Ubisoft isn't a shitty company because they make open world "slop".
Ubisoft is a shitty company because they pioneer and invent anti-consumer practices like always-online requirements for single player games with no online components.
100% I loved it. I bought it early and ran into a glitch though and couldn't 100% the game. I do have it loaded on my switch yo restart. Its a great game. Wish it sold better
You could make a case that Lost Crown takes a lot from Hollow Knight and the precision platforming from Celeste, but Dead Cells? Have you played either game?
This is the game that turned the prince black right? As someone who played the ps2 sands of time game I feel like my outrage over that is more valid than people who never played the game telling me I have no right
The Lost Crown was the first Ubisoft game I bought since Prince of Persia (2008). Boss fights were very hype, and the combat. Oh man, the insane combos you can create near the end.
Lost crown on steroids is what I was thinking of when the rumours of a greek god of war metroidvania began spreading. That game could have been THE AAA sidescroller/metroidvania.
Then the "talent" should take a page out of Sandfall Interactive and say: Screw these corpo fucks, let's make a game we want to make and play. Then continue to make GOTY.
Easier said than done. Not every dev is good at securing funding and going their own way. You can't just start making a game out of your home with no income to cover living expenses, people's salaries, etc.
Yeah, being a developer ain’t the same as running a business. It takes an entirely different skillset that are basically all soft skills where everything is non-deterministic and your biggest issue isn’t the tech you’re working on, but getting people on board with what you’re doing. Tech problems are easy; people problems are hard.
Also, soooo many dev teams are trying to do the independent route. With loan interest rates being what they are and investors scrutinizing more than ever, you're competing with a whole bunch of talented people trying the indie route in a way that was absolutely not the case even 5 years ago.
Games take a massive amount of time to iterate to find the fun and trim the garbage. There is a reason why you typically see senior talent to start their own studio. Time and money with institutional knowledge(not necessarily requires, but it's massive to help informed decisions though)
"massive amount of time" is an understatement. E33 took 6 years to make. Mewgenics took ~7 years. it's been 10 years since I've seen it but I'm pretty sure Indie Game The Movie well elaborates the stress of it all if you aren't financially set already.
Plus external funding is somewhat shying away from games, because Fortnite isn't making trillions.
It's not that easy, you gotta start a company and secure millions in funding. It's not just about being a dev and doing what you're good at, there's a LOT more too it.
Add in that most experienced Devs don't have the time or energy to work 60+ hour weeks whcih is generally what you gotta do when you start a business, and cost of living is incredibly high in most places, and there aren't much jobs in the industry at the moment
Clearly you have no concept of how difficult it is to get funding for games these days and just assume someone's willing to write that check for 200 million dollars
Man sometimes I think I should turn off Ad-block cause I NEVER heard of this 2 year old game and I love the series... then I turn it off and get Ads Ill never buy anyways
Good looking game tho back on topic haha Ill have to grab that
Have never even heard of this game. Looks like they put a lot of time into it but I feel like games of this style were popular during PS3 days, not sure why they’d make a game with that POV and think people would like it
I love this game a lot, but I almost drop the game before entering the menu.
Signing in to Ubisoft account was required to play this game on PS4 - and I'm not going to do this, I hate typing on gamepads. So I turned off the network every single time, when I wanted to play
What happened to prince of persia was a crying shame.
People keep wondering why ubisoft never tries anything outside their usual formula, but every time they do, like with this game, no one buys it. Its almost as if the people who go around loudly complaining about games were never willing to buy them in the first place.
Those people aren’t buying or playing any games, complaining is their hobby and Ubisoft is the easiest choice to engage with countless such people and bots.
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u/penisandorvagina Jun 17 '26
Sadly they have some great talent festering away reproducing endless openworld slop (the team who made this was dismantled https://store.steampowered.com/app/2751000/Prince_of_Persia_The_Lost_Crown/ )