r/nzev • • 23h ago

EV Listings

Moving back to NZ from Australia and toying with the idea of an EV so I checked TradeMe…

Why the heck is my search for “Electric” engine chock full of Outlander PHEVs?? It isn’t like there’s not an option for that in the listing criteria.

Ok maybe it’s just TradeMe… I’ll try Autotrader. Worse - the Priuses and Aquas that come up in the search are LISTED as the H-word but Autotrader decided I wanted to see them anyway despite not searching for them.

Is there a site these days that’s actually worth searching on or do I have to scroll through dross to find something?

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u/kianjz_ 23h ago

Hey! You can try my site www.carspy.co.nz, it allows you do to much better searches and clearly separates EV, PHEV, and regular Hybrid, and allows you to exclude stuff easily so you don't have to see a million leafs when searching for cheapest EVs for example. Try it out and let me know what you think!

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u/Temporary_Pomelo_430 18h ago

great site! Time to find that high roof diesel van of my dreams!

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u/kianjz_ 18h ago

Thanks! Let me know if you find what you are looking for, and any feedback!

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u/Administrative-Map16 22h ago

Not immune to the issue. Great site though - can you add a filter for AWD/4WD?

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u/kianjz_ 22h ago

Hi there, I believe this is electric. The opel corsa came as EV or ICE, not as plug in hybrid, and this one has an RUC sticker.

I will look into AWD/4WD filters, thanks for the feedback!

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u/Administrative-Map16 22h ago

Well the more you know - you're right. That's actually a cracking deal for a 3 year old EV lol

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u/kianjz_ 22h ago

I agree, I think people in NZ don't trust the brands like Peugeot / Opel / Renault (and to a less extent VW) meaning sometimes you can find some decent deals on EVs

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u/adjason 17h ago

They have exited the market iirc

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u/dissss0 Kia Niro (62kWh) 23h ago

How is this site doing the verification?

There is at least one PHEV i3 under 'Electric'

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u/kianjz_ 23h ago

Thanks, could you let me know which one? I just use a series of scripts to classify vehicles and I am constantly updating them to get as accurate as possible. Some edge cases may slip through the cracks and I patch the scripts to catch them as I go along. I've only been up for about a month so it's still early days at the moment.

Unfortunately dealers are very inconsistent with the data they display, especially for EVs, like including 1cc for the engine size, 0.1L/100Km fuel efficiency, stuff like that.

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u/[deleted] 21h ago

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u/kianjz_ 21h ago

Sorry, what? 😂

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u/Excalibator 21h ago

He said JN . VSFF YOU HYDRO N hope it helps

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u/kianjz_ 21h ago

oh, thanks

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u/caswal 23h ago

Annoys me as well. Trademe supports using NOT in the search. So “NOT Outlander" will remove them. Can chain them, so "NOT Leaf NOT Outlander", etc.

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u/10yearsnoaccount 23h ago

omg they still allow that?

the amout of SUVs listed as station wagons is infuriating

actually, come to think of it, maybe it's just the Outlander people who can't figure this out....

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u/ClanFever 21h ago

What an Outlandish comment 

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u/TheProfessionalEjit 19h ago

Not very Sportage of them to make such a comment.

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u/ClanFever 19h ago

I don't beleaf my i's

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u/rhamish 20h ago

That was a massive pain point that people raised when I was building so we slapped a 'Not Leaf' button under the search: https://electricdreams.co.nz/

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u/YeevyEvee 18h ago

Needs to be a bigger button!

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u/kianjz_ 18h ago

still waiting for you to reply to my DM 😁

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u/rhamish 18h ago

Oh snap sorry I didn't see your reply will do!

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u/gttom 23h ago

Put -outlander in your search terms. It’s always been a problem with dealers being dumb, back in the day I used to regulatory find automatic cars listed as manual because they had tiptronic

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u/loose_as_a_moose 23h ago

That dredged up a memory drenched in loathing. I hated that so damn much

In what world does any user after a manual want a tiptronic? By the same merit, people looking for autos don’t want manuals so they miss the listing.

Surely had to be some sort of integration or automation issue with someone’s auto-listing tool? Can’t imagine dealers actually think they’d sell an auto to someone that way.

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u/espressomessiah 13h ago

That's a geat other side of the coin observation. I suspect the dealers are some combination of thick and lazy.

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u/Administrative-Map16 23h ago

I noticed this too when looking for AWD EVs below $40k. There are actually a small number of those, but you have to trawl through all Outlanders incorrectly listed as EVs and the Leafs and RWD Teslas incorrectly listed as AWD.

You can mitigate somewhat by refining your filter for engine size 1000cc or less - that eliminates the Outlanders.

I presume the issue is caused by incompetent car dealerships who don't know how to do a trademe listing, or they have some automated software that syncs from their own database that isn't correctly configured.

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u/Significant_Glass988 22h ago

The other thing that fucks me off with listings from certain dealers is they don't mention battery capacity, health, or range for EVs. Turners are particularly bad but others are too. EVCity in CHCH is particularly good example of what should be listed

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u/rhamish 20h ago

Hah this was the reason I made Electric Dreams: https://electricdreams.co.nz/

Hopefully more private sellers start listing as it's free!

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u/Chemical_Functions 18h ago

What annoys me about TM search is when you select EV, but then let's say you go back and select a brand that has no EVs listed, it will unselect your EV filter, so then when you go and select another brand that has EVs, it will show you all the cars.

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u/RobDickinson 23h ago

Trademe is crap but its the best we have, it crushes anyone trying to do better :/

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u/kianjz_ 22h ago

Not exactly the same but if you like to browse dealer listings you can try my site www.carspy.co.nz ! not really a trademe competitor but kinda allows you to ignore it if you are specifically looking for dealer listings

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u/dzh 21h ago

There's a couple, but not many.

Top trick if you using trademe and looking for cheapest EV, but wanna exclude leaf, put "and -leaf" in search. You can't put just "-leaf" in query, it must have another word so you some random most common word like "the -lead".

There is no free lunch tho - next cheapest ones are ix3 which aren't that good nor that cheap lol.

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u/toiletbowlwisdom 21h ago

If you got money search EV 4wd/awd

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u/aDragonfruitSwimming 19h ago edited 19h ago

Dear u/the_pretender_nz

On TradeMe:
Go to Cars,
select the make/model, or whatever
go to 'Refine',
scroll to 'fuel type',
choose 'zappy-zap-zap' or whatever it says.
...And Bingo's your uncle.

You can actually START with the last three steps. There are currently 3582 electric-only cars for sale on TM, according to that.

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u/the_pretender_nz 18h ago

Yes. That’s what I did. And had to scroll through too many ads for Outlanders and other PHEVs.

I’m from NZ, I used TradeMe for many years before I moved over here. I know how it works - or rather how it should.

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u/Subwaynzz 22h ago

There is, you can search by fuel type, I.e electric, hybrid or plug in hybrid. A couple of dealers have screwed up their listings, but it’s not that much of a deal. Are you just using a keyword search?

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u/the_pretender_nz 20h ago

Nope, I’m using filters

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u/heretosayathing Gen 2.1 Nisan Leaf (40kWh) 23h ago

Because dealers who should know better continue to list them incorrectly. Only 23/60 Mitsubishi EV listings on TM are for Outlanders, I wouldn't call that "chock full" by any stretch.

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u/Kiwi_eng 17h ago

I've never had this problem on TM.

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u/Noels_Nose 23h ago

You sure you’re doing it right?

I just searched and set the filter for electric fuel type and there’s not a single hybrid out of 3000 listings

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u/the_pretender_nz 23h ago

Yup. Just to make sure, on TM I just filtered by Electric, Make: Mitsubishi Model: Outlander and there are 23 results.

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u/Subwaynzz 22h ago

That’s not chock full.

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u/the_pretender_nz 20h ago

Jeebus it was an example. There’s others in there. But 1 is too many. And if you’re scrolling on mobile and they’re all clustered together, on my phone it shows basically one at a time. So that’s a lot of scrolling to get past dross that shouldn’t be in there in the first place.

And also doesn’t excuse the Autotrader ones.

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u/Key_Psychology_1902 23h ago

Oh I totally hear you. I had the same issue when I searched a few months back. It almost seems like whoever is entering the listings doesn't know the differences and TradeMe does not correct them. Hybrids are listed as PHEV and there are also no categories to select plug in only. I also recall there is no option to sort on range. PHEVs are also appearing in full EV results..

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u/dissss0 Kia Niro (62kWh) 23h ago

It's worst than that - Trademe gets fuel type from the plate you enter but lets you override.

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u/the_pretender_nz 23h ago

OH ARE YOU SERIOUS??! I was gonna mention that in Aus the car sites can get all the details from a database so it’s not a problem, at least with the main ones like CarSales…. Now you’re telling me they CAN do that but just don’t???!