Men do the hard work that keep countries moving:

-mining

-Plumbing

-Electricity

-Construction worker

- Police officers

-engineers

- Etc

So those TikTok where feminists say they want all men dead is just stupidity. If all women stopped working society would be dead too. Both men and women complement each other hehe.

Saying that outloud is going to sound crazy, but it is very difficult. I don't know how many of you have tried complaining about discrimination as a man or sueing, but it is like nobody believes you when you say that the women are actively keeping you down and infringing on your rights as a human being. I personally have made two attempts now to fight for my own rights, and it's like everyone just shrugs at you or scoffs because you tried to legally defend yourself as if quietly saying, "Why don't you just 'man up'?"

We've quietly become second-class citizens in a world that we built. It's hard enough for men to fight for custody or when you settle out property during a divorce. You can barely even make it when a woman decides to act crazy and claim you laid hands on her with zero witnesses or evidence. You have to be so wary and self-conscious around women nowadays that you're more at peace away from them than existing even within earshot of them because it has gotten to the point where a woman's word is like a tyrant saying, "Off with his head!" and everybody cheers as you get your reputation slaughtered.

I often find myself just being assertive, neutral, and giving them the stiff arm. Stay away from me if you're not my partner. We have to literally act like assholes to keep them from taking advantage of us otherwise they will trample you and pick you apart.

I saw a post on Facebook of a woman complaining a 33 year old guy is dating a 22 year old and calling him a “predator”. I notice feminists overuse that word and apply it to two consenting adults. Like what is their cutoff on what they think is a predator or not?

https://www.sharedparenting.org/

I know that guys are reasonably mad about getting screwed out of your kids. Support the National Parents Organization (NPO). They are making real headway into solving this. This year, they got Louisiana & Mississippi to join the 50/50 custody presumption (A-tier states as designated by the NPO). Change the map so that all the states will sign up. As of now there are 8 A-tier states:

1. Kentucky
2. Florida
3. West Virginia
4. Missouri
5. Arizona
6. Arkansas
7. Mississippi
8. Louisiana

This is a way to take action. Do it!

David Lloyd sparks equality row by excluding men from spa areas in its gyms because some women feel uncomfortable

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16211821/David-Lloyd-sparks-equality-row-excluding-men.html

If you look at the age gap discourse, the core issue according to the usual suspects is ''power imbalance''

they will say something like ''oh but old men have more life experiences and maturity and this creates power imbalance''

So why is that a bad thing?

''because it increases the likelihood of exploitation''

Ok so for arguments sake, lets assume this is true

So if this is the case why arent the usual suspects showing extreme vitriol towards other relationship dynamics like, heightgap, financialgap, statusgap, IQgap?

A huge power imbalance exists in a relationship Where the woman is 5'4 and the guy is 6'5

A huge power imbalance exists in a relationship where the man is a millionaire or an E-celeb and the woman is making minimum wage

And yet what you see is, the same usual suspects encouraging women to seek such relationship arrangements. They get told by society to seek ''666'', regardless of who they are and where they stand. They are told to ''never settle'' and always look up

Why? Because all of these directly benefit women and cater to their interests. Suddenly the high probability of exploitation in an imbalanced relationship becomes a non existent issue. Suddenly we have to consider ''biology'' and become nature understanders

But if a man lets say is an older adult or middle aged and wants a beautiful young woman to have sex with or marry as a wife. Now suddenly hes a ''predator''(no proof whatsoever)

Now we have to look at ''power imbalance''

Now we get lectured about how ''evil'' power imbalances are blah blah blah blah

This is systematic misandry

Thats my opinion. Many men complain that when they become vulnerable with women ,those women react negatively to it. Wich I have no doubt they do but dont forget that us men also love to mock other men when they are emotional. Im not saying u should cry all day lol but sometimes if u have something going on u shouldn't fear talking about it to a close friend ( weither male or female). I feel like us men are mostly the one who have created this unwritten rule about men being emotionless and are the one perpetuing it

This is the first time I think Emily completely missed the real point, so ignore her commentary. The real story here is this woman gets off on the fact that men are hurting, the blatant hostility she shows towards men, that's the story here. Certainly not all women are this bad, as low a bar as that is. Whether or not men are objectified is not the main issue at hand. By the way ""Catching a print" is a viral slang term and TikTok trend that means looking at the outline or bulge of a man's crotch through his pants to size up or estimate the dimensions of his manhood." Here's the video, a youtube short.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QKjjoKWi_Xo

feel like the male gender role in some ways was almost as good as it was ever going to get around the eighteenth century and it begun to degenerate in the victorian era and has ever since pretty much.

Recientemente alguien hizo una publicación en r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates, en el que dicha persona tomó algunas capturas aleatorias y sin contexto de este sub, dichos comentarios del sub ya están eliminados y me parece bien por los moderadores.

Justamente yo estoy ahí y si bien estuve de acuerdo en que la misoginia no debe fomentarse, creo que dicho post hizo mas mal que bien. Al final termino yéndose mas por el tipico mantra que utilizan las feministas diciendo "Ves, por eso la gente piensa que el MRA es un movimiento toxico", solo porque algunas personas hicieran algunos comentarios, es un manera que no tolero porque echa mas para atrás nuestros esfuerzos y algunas personas lo compartieron en espacios misandricos. Y termino sonando mas una conclusión White Knight de retórica feminista que uno en el que de verdad trate de buscar crear conciencia para mejorar el movimiento.

De ahí los ejemplos de comentario que dio los únicos que tenían algo de apoyo era uno con 131 en el que decía que "Las mujeres usan sus emociones en vez de su cerebro", y otro con 31 upvotes que nose bien de que era. Es mucho o no lo consideran tanto. Que opinan?

Solo espero que la gente pueda tener criterio, intentemos no sonar sexistas ya que actualmente estamos en una posición muy controversia en el que un comentario malintencionado pueda frenar bastante la imagen del movimiento.

No hay mejor forma de apoyo que demostrar lo malo que es el argumento del otro lado que mostrarnos mejores que ellos en nuestro discursos y evitar toda forma de discriminación.

Solo espero que TheTinMen no sea el ultimo espacio seguro para hombres lejos de toda retórica feminista y discriminación que me quede.

PF is kind of like special male rape in a way. With a lot of rape cases the man is able to use his biological advantage of strength to get the woman to do what he wants with her body sexually. And in society we hold this in league with murder.

Why does it rank similarly? Is it the threat of violence? The trauma? To deter from repetition? Or the disgust of those considered undeserving at that time attemtping reproduction? Loss of autonomy is considered a big thing.

But how many of those attributes transpose onto the men during the crime of PF? In PF the woman uses her biological advantage over the male. She uses her guarantee as the mother and uses deciept instead of violence to enable her own genetic progression at the expense of the victim. But that's apparently of no value. Since when a child comes into the equation, the child supercedes all priority between the two adults and the woman can piggieback off of that for her own advantage. This is why 'using the child as a weapon' is often something woman do in relationship conflicts.

The man is supposed to be human and love the child no matter what because they've got a bond.

But the trauma, loss of autonomy , the lack of concent and should be nulling of falsely signing the birth certificate as the father - which should say biological father or adoptive father - are all concent under false conditions overlooked. For what I can only assume is because of how powerful the halo effect is and also sorry to victim blame, but men are likely to suffer internally, keep it to themselves and not make a huge specticle out of it seamly creating the idea en masse it's not as big a deal as rape.

If I was to openly declare PF in the same priority as rape. We all know that would not sit well in public. Why is that? And where should it rank as a crime and what should the punishment be?

Please can we welcome all forms of criticism.

Feminist and women's organizations in Canada have a long history of advocating against the recognition of parental alienation in family courts. Searching "parental alienation" on the House of Commons petition website reveals numerous petitions calling for its use to be prohibited, frequently describing it as pseudoscience.

As most of you probably know, parental alienation refers to harmful behaviour in which one parent deliberately manipulates a child into unjustifiably rejecting the other parent. It can be committed by either mother or father, and its consequences can be devastating for children and their relationships with their parents.

Yet over 250 feminist and women's organizations in Canada signed an open letter calling for parental alienation accusations to be banned from family courts, primarily citing their misuse against mothers and claims that parental alienation is pseudoscientific.

2024 House of Commons Petition:

https://www.ourcommons.ca/Petitions/En/Petition/Details?Petition=441-02884

Open Letter Signed by Over 250 Organizations (Full List Included):

https://nawl.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Open-Letter-Ban-parental-alienation-accusations-NAWL-2.pdf

This is now being advanced through legislation.

Bill C-223 has passed second reading and is currently in committee.

https://www.parl.ca/legisinfo/en/bill/45-1/c-223

Two proposed changes are particularly concerning:

*Section 16(3.1) would prohibit courts from considering allegations that a parent deliberately manipulated a child into rejecting the other parent, with a limited exception involving family violence. *Repeal of section 16(3)(c) would remove the express requirement for courts to consider each parent's willingness to support the child's relationship with the other parent.

Rather than ensuring allegations are properly investigated, this legislation would restrict what courts can consider in determining a child's best interests.

Why does this matter?

I wanted to bring this to the attention of members here, particularly Canadians, because I think it raises serious questions about organizations claiming to advocate for equality, including the rights and interests of men and boys.

The open letter overwhelmingly frames parental alienation accusations as something fathers use against mothers. It makes little meaningful effort to acknowledge that mothers can alienate children from fathers, that fathers can be victims, or that either parent can make false accusations. Or that parental alienation is a real observed action.

The possibility that an allegation can be misused against mothers does not justify prohibiting legitimate allegations from being considered, especially when the underlying abuse can be committed by either parent.

This is particularly relevant when feminist organizations claim to represent equality or when criticism is dismissed through the No True Scotsman fallacy. These are not isolated individuals. They are established organizations publicly endorsing legislation with potentially serious consequences for children and parents.

Compare this with the petition supporting recognition of parental alienation.

There is also a House of Commons petition calling for parental alienation to be recognized as child abuse.

Unlike the petitions seeking restrictions, it explicitly recognizes both mothers and fathers and does not assign responsibility or victimhood according to sex.

Petition e-4595 — Recognize Parental Alienation as Child Abuse:

https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-4595

The difference in language and approach is striking.

Finally, there is the claim that parental alienation is pseudoscience.

Questioning the scientific validity of a particular psychological theory is not the same as establishing that the underlying harmful behaviour does not exist. Likewise, proving that some allegations are false does not establish that all allegations are false.

This is where I believe the advocacy becomes ideological rather than evidence-based. Instead of distinguishing legitimate allegations from false ones through careful investigation and consistent evidentiary standards, these organizations support restricting the consideration of the allegations themselves.

The scientific method requires evaluating evidence, not dismissing an entire category of potentially abusive behaviour because accusations can be misused.

Children deserve protection from abuse regardless of which parent commits it. Mothers and fathers deserve equal treatment under the law. Neither should depend on whether the victim or perpetrator fits a preferred ideological narrative.

Other House of Commons Petitions Calling for Restrictions

https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Details?Petition=441-02855

https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Details?Petition=441-02799

https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Details?Petition=441-02750

https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-4517

https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Details?Petition=451-00921

https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Details?Petition=441-02977

I'm (F19) and I'm glad I left feminism so early and I didn't let those miserable women brainwash me further. It all started thanks to the Lindsay Clancy crazy fan girls, I realized feminism isn't about equality at all and it's just women wanting to be better than men and excusing women's crimes especially when it comes to killing babies. I also started hating the whole "women empowerment" BS, because why do women need empowerment unless they feel insecure and less valuable than men? For me I'm secure with myself I don't need empowerment. Also it's just immoral to me, seeing the hate men receive for doing nothing wrong, the generalization, how those feminists support killing babies and breaking families, it's just not right for me.

Feminism isn't about equality at all, I just realized it's about wanting to compete with men and replacing them. No one can replace men, no one can replace women, we need each other and we always did. I don't care if those feminists mock me or call me a misogynist, I want to be a good wife, a good mother, I'd submit to my future husband because I want to and I'd love my future kids instead of wanting them dead. I was once like those miserable feminists, believing that being alone and childless is good and it's freedom while marriage is oppressive but it's all BS, they just don't know how to treat men right then they whine about it or they keep choosing the wrong man. I had a feminist in my Dms (who mocked me for being a virgin btw) tell me that men and marriage are dangerous for women and yet she slept with multiple men once, such a hypocrite!! Men are dangerous right? Why are you sleeping with multiple hmm?

And don't get me started on those women who call men creeps, yes creeps exist but a man flirting with you and looking at you is normal! Whenever a man looks at me or flirts with me I blush and thank him, I'm grateful for the attention, I get happy. That's what normal women should feel, appreciate the compliments, but nah! They keep whining and making false accusations, like I'm sorry if you got hurt girl but calling a man a creep for staring at you ain't it. Their double standards are crazy, they look at men like they want to devour them but the moment a man glances at them they would pull the victim card.

In the end, thanks to everyone in this sub, it helped me realize how good it is to be feminine instead of competing with men, I'll never touch that crappy ideology ever again and whether those feminists want to admit it or not, REAL women have that urge to care and nurture not destroy and compete with men.

The constantly heard cry from the female side is that women can do all the things men do...to which the outcome being the prevailing thought women were somehow unable to do the same things... I think wires got crossed, it's possibly not that women can't do the same, it's that men didn't WANT them too... speaking from my own point of view, I'm not interested in partnering with a masculine female (largely irrelevant I know)...sure they can do everything men can, it's just men possibly don't care...we are a selfish bunch, both sexes I mean, these days especially in sports there's a big push for women's leagues for all sports... however, has no one noticed that in our little world money and profitability comes first, if it don't make money then it generally doesn't happen...is it fair? Nope, does fairness mean anything except to a human? Nope.. just one more thought, perhaps women can try coming up with something of their own instead of brow beating boys into letting them play one of their games... women are the incubators of human life and they want to expose that amazing capsule of existence to the physical trauma of something like Aussie rules football or something?... Yes dear.

How are female academics claiming sexism in university? Why are migrants in on this too? Being a majority in their field is not enough, they want to claim oppression too. Why are reputable universities allowing this? Why are male researchers more likely to secure funding than female researchers? It can't possibly be because their research is different. No, it must be the patriarchy. /s

Feminism: The final frontier.

Do you find it funny?Me I do. Do I think its harmful too? Kinda because women are rarely ever shown in those positions in those kind of adds. So Im mitigated on this.

This is too common for me to just ignore, but in any given workplace, the women will literally be protected from scrutiny and the clapbacks all because workplaces are afraid of their HR departments tearing them down about ''inclusivity'' and ''kindness''

While the innocent men that are escapegoated in these settings-low-status, shy, introverted, overly-nice, aloof, very reserved and typically neurodivergent or socially awkward, have to endure outrage bursts from the higher ups in order for the gender quotas to be met instead of creating a healthy environment of proper equal accountability and responsbility

It is a power imbalance that is way too ignored in most workplaces and most people sadly just brush it off, not realizing it is actually harming the social ecosystem of the work environment

Has anyone had similar experiences within their own workplaces? What is everyone's thoughts?