Hi everybody---

I recently released an album with math rock/mid-west emo elements, and rather than just share it unsolicited... I wanted to ask for your bands or your solo music. Or if you are not an artist yourself, what are some dope bands you have found lately? If you choose to ask, I will share the link with you.

I don’t listen to a ton of math rock, but did growing up.

I relistened to “Never Meant” by American Football… and I SWEAR there is a song with a nearly identical riff.

I know this is an iconic riff and I could just be misremembering the song, but I swear there was a song that opened with basically the same riff and the lyrics were… different.

Maybe it was this song.

but maybe it was Tera Melos or someone?

Is there a song with a very very similar riff. Like near identical?

Some cozy, tappy stuff to fit the fall vibes!

For those who don't know him, Nathan is the vocalist of HORSE the Band, a band that has been part of the experimental and independent music scene for years.

I'm sharing his GoFundMe because I want to help an artist whose music has meant a lot to me. Independent artists often struggle to get by, and sometimes the community that grew up listening to them can make a real difference.

If you know the band, enjoy their music, or simply believe in supporting independent artists, please consider donating or sharing the campaign.

Even $5 helps. If you can't donate, sharing this post is also valuable.

Let's show Nathan that his music still matters.

https://gofund.me/9270ea63a

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"Knock knock."

"Who's there?"

"Sofa."

"Sofa who?"

"SOFAAAA we've lost focus....."

Hello!

I’m a multi-instrument musician and I love mathrock, and I’m looking for songs that I can learn that could improve my guitar / drum mathrock skills. That might’ve been worded weirdly, but, Im basically just looking for cool mathrock songs I can listen to and obsess over and learn so I can get better at playing mathrock in general.

This song is unbelievable. And It got released just for the reissue? Only available on youtube i guess as of today (the studio version of course)

All hail dilute

Heyo, my band just put out a new single and video with a lot of hand drawn animation, and chaotic two piece instrumental vibes! Hope yall like it, and if so our album comes out on friday! Thanks ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻

What is everyone’s thoughts on Around the Light by Fight Cloud? Personally I think it is one of their best albums to this day.

I've found that while this is a rap song, it definitely belongs here.

While some people have already posted their analysis of this song's rhythmic structure and correctly counted the numbers, I found that nobody of the few examples I've read/watched so far painted the actual whole picture. They missed some points - especially on the middle part. Maybe somebody did already say this; then I missed to review their analysis.

I posted this under a youtube video a while ago; this is a slightly modified version.

So on the part after the 4/4 in Story 2... The first thing you'll notice is that the very last beat of the 4/4 part is actually played as a triplet. it goes on to basically play a 4/4 in triples, BUT: Common notation for such a part is often to write it down as a 12/8 with 3+3+3+3 subdivisions, because you don't have to deal with the triplet notation, changing tempo. To do this, you assign the tempo of the quarter notes from the old part to the tempo of the dotted quarter note of the following part (for example, before: quarter=N bpm, after: dotted quarter=N bpm). So they actually do a metric modulation that increases the tempo by a factor of 1.5. But since they want to preserve their pattern, which would suggest 8 bars of 8/9 at this point, they sneak this in too in another way. The way they're doing it is by playing only 6 bars of the 12/8. If you do the math, 6bars x 12/8=72/8. And guess what? 8bars x 9/8=72/8 also. This feels especially weird because we're used to new parts beginning after 4 or 8 bars, so having the six bars feels like a weird overextension. The 12/8 part also serves as a reset right back to the beginning of the song; it's a 3/8-based pattern again, and we're now back to counting up in 8th-notes again.

Afterwards, we get another 8 bars of 2/4. The cool thing about this is that if you look at it as an 4/8 in 2+2, it's actually a metric modulation, coming from the previous part, which was 3+3+3+3. This way, we speed up by another factor of 1.5, for a total of 2.25 times the tempo from the beginning. After that, they continue to 8 bars of the 5/8 time signature. You'll notice that you can count the vocals as "1 2 1 2 3", so it's sub-divided into a 2+3-pattern - just like at the start of the song. Then come the 6/8 and 7/8, just as before. Check the lyrics (following below). Each line has exactly 7 syllables and they each have their accents following a 2+2+3-pattern:

He keeps walking towards the house

Rather what house is still left

No intention of stopping

Letting the smoke take his breath

Some strong arm knocks him aside

Mike falls to the ground and cries

Why won't you just let me die?

Why won't you just let me die?

The final part is 8 bars of 4/4 again, but it's played in constant 16th notes, finishing the second cycle of counting from 3 to 8, but with a double time-y feel.

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For anyone who doesn't know Argentina has the greatest crowds in the world.

They opened up a circle pit before breakdown of Goodbye. Even from Loneliness they were jumping around. Pogoing is as normal to them as breathing.

I saw them in Tokyo at the 25th anniversary show, the European leg and also here in Latin America. Quite interesting the crowds haha.

Hi all - this is Steve Holmes (I play guitar in the band American Football) and I've just launched a Substack you may enjoy. First post of a three-part essay on the origins of the band up now.

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Cheers,

Steve

wassup yall! my band talk less just released a new album and it’s currently streaming on youtube, i’d love any feedback and suggestions! thanks so much!

listen now:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLc2ilyIws4js&si=nt_OpiAoix2O1RgS

Are there any other artists similar to them?

whoever sent me a chat request about songs cd pls resend!! i accidentally declined it :/