r/marvelstudios • u/KostisPat257 Daredevil • Jul 31 '26

Discussion Thread Spider-Man: Brand New Day - Worldwide Release Discussion Thread

Spider-Man: Brand New Day has now been released in the United States and in a number of other countries around the world.

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u/AllCity_King Jul 31 '26

Jean certainly hasn’t given them a great start

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u/7screws Daredevil Jul 31 '26

Exactly. Between her actions and some propaganda by damage control and some wacko politician it’s easy to sway public opinion. Hell even the avengers (or some of them) were on the run because they refused to sign the agreements

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u/Mrwright96 Jul 31 '26

Calling it now, “enhanced” is the official term, but that Politician(most likely Kelly) will be the first to call them “mutants” as a slur.

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u/Captain_Waffle Aug 01 '26

Good theory

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u/Poked_salad Captain America (Cap 2) Aug 01 '26

They could use Valentina to do this as well as she's already established. It also works well because Valentina can tell the media that the new avengers are here to protect everyone from these so called mutants

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u/lmpetuslmperaIOI Aug 03 '26

Somebody get these MUTANTS outta here

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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) Aug 02 '26

Enhanced is a broader term than mutant is.

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u/abellapa Aug 01 '26

What politician ?

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u/Mrwright96 Aug 01 '26

Idk maybe Valentina, maybe like I said Senator Kelly, could be a lot

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u/abellapa Aug 01 '26

Who Kelly?

I dont remember any Kelly from the movies

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u/Mrwright96 Aug 02 '26

First x men movie, dude who became slime?

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u/abellapa Aug 02 '26

How the fuck should i know about a obscure charcater from a 26 year Old movie that isnt even Part of The MCU

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u/KoolKat8058 Aug 05 '26

He’s also usually the face and one of the main politicians against the X-Men in a lot of media

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u/BakuraGorn Aug 01 '26

That’s easy, mutants awaken their powers still as kids and are unpredictable, also omega level mutants can be much stronger than Thor

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u/Due_Chip_5184 Aug 01 '26

Yeah and maybe Damage Control creates the MCU’s Sentinels if they become an Anti-Mutant organization

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u/7screws Daredevil Aug 01 '26

Yeah I think they’ll become some type of that maybe they got some stark tech from one of the previous movies and are going to use that for the basis of sentinels

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u/Due_Chip_5184 Aug 01 '26

Yeah maybe. But we might see a new Iron man post Secret Wars depending on how much reshaping of the past happens?

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u/bokmcdok Jul 31 '26

Yep. Her driving the Hulk crazy and paralysing half of New York isn't going to give the mutants a good head start

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u/jahnybravo Aug 01 '26

I mean Sentry/Void trapped everyone in trauma rerun marathons not too long ago, I think a simple temporary paralysis is preferable to reliving the worst moments of your life on repeat. And he’s man-made/pre-mutant

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u/Xygnux Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26

Does the public even know that Sentry did that though?

As far as they are concerned the Void is just one of those supervillains that the New Avengers defeated, not that he's part of the Avengers himself.

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u/Poked_salad Captain America (Cap 2) Aug 01 '26

The best part about that is that Valentina has the means to do what you just said because of her skills and power to use the media. I bet she's already planting the seeds on how the mutants are to blame for the void and they're the ones that can turn people into black dust

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u/Xygnux Aug 01 '26

Oh shit she or the DoDC is definitely going to compare what Jean Grey did to the Void to persuade the people to hate mutants.

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u/swagonflyyyy Aug 04 '26

Yeah, the infinite shame rooms lasted a pretty long time compared to Jean Grey's paralysis, which was like what, 30 minutes?

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u/Sweet-Storm-6651 Aug 01 '26

Not to be a buzzkill but she low-key did SA on the roof and she killed lots of people (most shocking to show her evil was jumping in front of that car) she’s almost done too much bad already to be redeemed realistically. There’s a lot in this movie that I personally just don’t buy. Like her origin story is sad and explained well but it doesn’t excuse the behaviors she was exhibiting. Makes total sense for humans to be scared of people who jump into minds and you’d have no memory of such(can do anything in your body without you knowing). They are scarier than avengers and normal superhero’s to people rn I do buy though(sentry the only one who can compare in those terms)

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u/abellapa Aug 01 '26

That roof scene was super dark

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u/Professional_Rate718 Aug 01 '26

Something, something, Dark Phoenix.

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u/Icy_Water_1 Aug 01 '26

I mean the Dark Phoenix was literally Jean being possessed.

Here, it's just Jean tormenting those who are vulnerable.

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u/ExampleGlum8623 Aug 01 '26

I mean, worse things have happened to New York from the Avengers.

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u/nerdystoner25 Aug 01 '26

The most unrealistic thing about the MCU is any person or business staying in Manhattan after almost 20 years of this shit.

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u/Professional_Rate718 Aug 01 '26

My coworker and I are both huge comic nerds and I was like “You know? How does anyone live in New York anymore? Too much shit happens there.”

And he goes “Yeah, just avoid the major cities, and avoid landmarks when you have to visit.” Lmfao

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u/abellapa Aug 01 '26

The rent is probably much Cheaper in the MCU

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u/Worthyness Thor Aug 03 '26

Cheaper rent, but higher insurance

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u/Giorggio361 Jul 31 '26

I kind of hope they introduce a lot of the starting X-Men team as “villains” or at least antagonists to our known heroes. Shows off their power sets really well, delineates why the public seem to hate them more than the other heroes as you say, and builds up some real reasons for an Avengers v X-Men story if they ever want to do it.

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u/One_Drummer_8970 Aug 01 '26

Storm wrecking havoc in Wakanda in Black Panther 3? Right after Namor in 2?

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u/jahnybravo Aug 01 '26

Nah, that’s extremely out of character for Storm. She’s never more than a pickpocket when on the other side of the law. And with powers she’s worshipped as a benevolent goddess. 

A better approach would be to have Shadow King be the villain and keep the usual angle of her being forced to steal for him, but gets rescued from him around when her powers start to manifest. 

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u/One_Drummer_8970 Aug 01 '26

I didn't mean in a malicious way. But she's seen as some sort of out of control creature, and Denzel is cast as Achebe.

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u/jahnybravo Aug 01 '26

I still don’t think the “out of control” angle would work either. Like I said, it’s extremely out of character because once she gets her powers she’s pretty much worshipped across Africa because her powers are seen by everyone as a miracle come to save them. There’s a reason she’s constantly called a goddess, because in-universe there are people who truly see her as an actual goddess come down to bless Africa and genuinely worship her as if she was an actual god rather than a mutant. 

The only time she’s in any kind of bad light is when she’s a pickpocket and that’s mainly before her powers and when forced into servitude for the Shadow King. So rather than “out” of control, the only reason for her to ever do damage would be if she was ”under” control instead. 

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u/One_Drummer_8970 Aug 01 '26

But if she's a goddess, how will that tie in with the X-Men being seen as freaks?

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u/jahnybravo Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26

The people who see her as a goddess are the ones in Africa benefiting from her power, the ones that see her as a freak are the ones everywhere else in the world who hate any mutant. 

When she’s among the X-men she also is neither a freak nor a goddess. She is just Ororo and that’s why the X-men are family. They see the person. Being worshipped is just a different kind of ostracism. 

But end of day, Storm just isn’t the right character to be used as an example of “the danger” of mutants because she represents the opposite. The best of what mutants can do to help improve the world around them

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u/Xygnux Aug 01 '26

And remember DoDC is part of the government. The government already intended to kidnap and experiment on mutants from the get go.

And well government propaganda can be a hell of a thing to sway public opinions.

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u/frezz Aug 02 '26

How exactly do people tell the difference as well? Like how does anyone know Jean is a mutant but Spider-Man isn't

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u/Samaritan_Pr1me Sep 07 '26

Based on Jean’s actions alone throughout the movie, Frank was justified in trying to shoot her.