r/marvelrivals • Jack of Hearts • 3h ago

Discussion Why does one of WF's teamups just... remove part of her difficulty?

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I feel like that's kind of bad design if I'm being real

It just kinda removes part of her kit, I'd personally make it a toggle with the psylocke teamup and give her a unique ability in fox form or something that consumes the tails

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u/EnvironmentalCode249 3h ago

Her tails are a useless mechanic anyway I can count on my hand the amount of times where I did not have enough tails to cast my charm.

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u/Orlikesque Deadpool 3h ago

The only thing they do is prevent you from using charm immediately out of Fox Form. You’re right, such a useless mechanic that they clearly were just forcing into her character to make her seem more interesting

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u/TheFunSwitch7 Winter Soldier 1h ago

Those tails were probably important for 90% of her dev time but then they realized it was stupid last minute and just kept them for the visual effects they already made

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u/Primum-Caelus Gambit 3h ago

I always just saw Psionic Fox as just a QOL fix personally? Just removes a clunky incongruity with her resource expenditure

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u/Dythia White Fox 3h ago

They both do if you read that the bc team up gives 1 tail on use, which even then is funny because you can't run out of tails unless you're trying to charm right after melee, which won't work. Psy ain't even the best one, it's by far the worse of the two since unenhanced bc team up allows you to play with speed boosts and slowness in all modes (ult, melee, midrange) as long as you use the ability before entering ult or melee, which allows toy to catch people instead of chasing them endlessly, and the circle provided makes melee dash measurable, since it dashes the same distance.

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u/Sage_V2 Darkchylde 3h ago

The teamup is horrible because getting spirit tail energy isn't difficult in the first place, it solves an issue that she literally doesn't have. You'll almost never be in a situation where this teamup actually helps you because it takes like 2 seconds to regen the energy normally, and you usually won't be in fox form for the entire duration anyway.

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u/TaikoRaio19 White Fox 1h ago

And like, I would take a straight up lower cool down from the getgo

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u/SillyCatSteven Loki 3h ago

The teamup with Psy is just there for the White Fox beginners.

Once you know how to play White Fox, the Black Cat teamup is much better due to the area Slow and drain effect on the enemies.

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u/ProofByVerbosity 2h ago

Ive once used the psy one.

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u/khangkhanh 3h ago

I only use the black cat. Heal + Speed seem to be a lot better

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u/Delkseypoo Mantis 1h ago

There is literally no difficulty to the tail mechanic. 

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u/Seatown_Spartan Spider-Man 2h ago

The teamup system in general just flat out lowered the skill ceiling for a lot of the cast.

CnD Luna teamup took out any semblance of brain activity the player base had.

Luna WF teamup makes it impossible to ever miss snowball and covers mistakes since it cleanses (previously self cleanses).

IW has yet another self healing panic button.

Spider-Man 1v1s consists of using symbiote instead of landing a pull to cancel the GOH.

Elsa trap radius is the size of Saturn.

Bucky no longer has Cooldown management. And spams in main.

Thing ignores positioning and lives forever with IW teamup.

Hela doesn't need to arc her CC.

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u/RanmaruMori 3h ago

The Psylocke one is terrible in general, or at the very least just so uninspired. Wish they’d rework it or something. Maybe make it so WF gains multiple charges of her dashes and they now work like Psy’s, cutting through and cleaving multiple enemies? I don’t know, anything would be better imo

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u/DimezTheAlmighty 2h ago

I really like always having access to full duration melee mode. I feel like it makes her feel less clunky instead of lowering her difficulty. Tails aren’t a difficult thing to manage in the first place, it’s just a QOL change and I think it’s good for some teamups to be QOL changes.

One teamup that enhances a characters original playstyle and one teamup that makes the character play a bit different is what teamups should gun for and her teamups do just that.

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u/species-baby White Fox 3h ago

She also frustratingly only has team ups with 5 star difficulty characters so you rarely get the most out of either of them

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u/OrdinaryResponse8988 2h ago

Nah, I get what they were going for. The team up is meant to alter her playstyle more into a close range melee support. Rather than a mid range one.

Not sure how it works in practice because I don’t use her much. But I wish more Team ups had the same principle.

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u/ISwxllow Black Cat 2h ago

People barely use it anyways 🙏🏽

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u/jezr3n The Maker 2h ago

Same with the Rocket team up for Fantastic but shhh

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u/Rockybroo_YT Winter Soldier 58m ago

There’s a bunch of teammups that do that.

The real use of this is getting max duration melee form every time.

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u/bchen 1h ago

I think it’s weird they gave her a tail resource and a cool down along with it but black cat released in the same season, has a coin resource but no cooldown.

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u/Disastrous-Drop-7778 1h ago

That’s because they are two different characters so they have different mechanics DD Gambit and Jubilee also all have a unique resource + cooldowns like Black Cat

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u/BlazeBitch Angela 3h ago

The psylocke one is a trap. They're both kinda trash but the Psylocke one is still marginally worse