Which launch character has suffered the most in modern day Rivals?

[u/KnocksFPS]

[u/The_Nomad89]

Batman. He’s so bad now he’s almost nonexistent in my games even in Quick Play.

[u/0rangelantern → u/The_Nomad89]

Barely see anybody playing him, even though he's so popular outside the game...

[u/AssociationDue3077 → u/The_Nomad89]

I think it's because they refuse to nerf Joker who hard counters him and he is pretty much unplayablw with that menace around

[u/Stefonzie → u/AssociationDue3077]

And I know Persona 5 is popular but does he really need to be in everything??

[u/LALLIGA_BRUNO → u/The_Nomad89]

I really miss when we would get Batman vs Superman, but they're both pretty much non-existent now

[u/PalpitationMountain9]

Iron man isn't even suffering anymore. He just doesn't exist. I don't even hear anyone talk about him anymore.

[u/ineedtostopthefap → u/PalpitationMountain9]

Exactly, he’s a not really an option because he’s so easy to just shoot out the sky

[u/Enex → u/ineedtostopthefap]

He also gets countered by melee character like Spidey and Iron Fist, which is pretty funny.

[u/Strong_Nobody_7752 → u/ineedtostopthefap]

Hawkeye go burr!!

[u/Soggy_Natural7529 → u/PalpitationMountain9]

I been trying to play him passed couple days. He gets countered so hard by just everything.

[u/PalpitationMountain9 → u/Soggy_Natural7529]

Yeah but don't worry they fixed him right? Missiles now lock on! Just to do less damage...

[u/LeoFireGod → u/PalpitationMountain9]

Actually forgot the patch went live bc there was no new hero lol

[u/Humdinger5000 → u/PalpitationMountain9]

As someone who does like playing Ironman, yeah. The homing doesn't fix the fact that you have to be in flight mode to fire and that overdrive did less missile dmg before hand.

[u/Common-Diver-6346]

Widow as she needed a whole rework and if you picked her you were seen as a thrower

[u/Fluffy-Ad7165 → u/Common-Diver-6346]

Tbf if someone picked Widow most of the time they were throwers. I still have traumas from finally having games turning the tables in my team favor only for some random dps to go Widow and stand still at spawn because someone in my team called them out for feeding

[u/widowsbaby → u/Common-Diver-6346]

Proved them wrong

[u/EKPZ_Saikuo → u/widowsbaby]

i miss the old widow. Sad that people’s opinion on her so split. is she overall better yeah but i mean 240 hp to the dome was also kinda cool

[u/widowsbaby → u/EKPZ_Saikuo]

I too miss her

[u/Specialist_Gene5617 → u/EKPZ_Saikuo]

Right diffing divers was so much fun but I feel like dive food now😭

[u/Ralewald → u/EKPZ_Saikuo]

People don't understand better performnce isnt always more fun or more unique, Widow is just red hela 2 now.

[u/pint_o_paint → u/Ralewald]

I get what you all are saying, but I got to say: I don't miss the old widow when one of my teammates picked her.

[u/Ralewald → u/pint_o_paint]

Did you actually regularly play her though? Also there was hundreds of ways they could have buffed her without making her red hela 2

[u/EntertainmentEasy864 → u/widowsbaby]

She was the GOAT... Made so many people switch when playing her. Sadly the kit is gone... Yet she is here to remain in our hearts

[u/The--Behemoth]

[u/anAffordableArtist]

Captain America, his shield breaks so fast it's miserable...

[u/TheLongDictionary]

Squirrel Girl has the lowest win rate that any character has ever had in Rivals, unless I’m seriously misremembering something

[u/Rrath- → u/TheLongDictionary]

Yeah but that's not because she sucks. It's because she sucks

[u/Killjoy3879]

iron man. The advantage of being a flyer is lost when over half the melee character roster can invade your air space on top of hitscans just being the strongest characters.

[u/Scarlet-Spider1610]

As a hulk player: HE IS FINE BALANCE WISE, DONT REWORK HIM!

[u/Relative_Gas1971]

In terms of In-game viability, skins, lore..etc from season 0 till now

1. Hulk
2. Adam Warlock
3. Iron Man
4. Wanda
5. Cap
6. Strange

Edit: I’m surprised you didn’t mention black widow

[u/TheSnazzyOne_ → u/Relative_Gas1971]

Blade wasn't a launch hero

[u/Relative_Gas1971 → u/TheSnazzyOne_]

Mb, I assume since the heroes initial release

[u/Mr_ME621 → u/Relative_Gas1971]

Blade came in season 3 (or 3.5 idk which half) the post explicitly about launch characters

[u/KamahlFoK]

Strange's is almost suffering from the pure existence of his portal; if you're on him and die last in a team fight, you're locking out that last-minute portal that the first player to die could be queueing up to snipe the objective. It's... a weird place to be where your team is better off having no Strange player at all.

[u/Brave-Orchid4721]

Captain America and it isn’t close. Power creep killed quite literally anything he had going for him over the course of the past 4 seasons.

[u/Ralewald]

Squirrel girl, never had above a 47% winrate got nerfed ultrahard in season 4 for some reason. Has never received a decent buff except her ult buff in season 0.

Seriously her net changes are as follows.

1.Ult reduced health 450 to 250, now targets closest player on bounce.

2.her root's speed at 0 charge went from 20ms to 30ms

3.root damage increased from 35 to 50(+15)

4.ammo cap increased from 10 to 12

Thats it, the entire list of her net changes.

Compared to jubilee who is pretty new who's net changes are

1.ult cost reduction from 4500 to 4300

2.blooming ball charge required to reach max size went from 300 to 250m and min healing increased from 30hps to 35hps

3.damage increased from 10 to 11 per shot, healing increased from 14 to 15 per shot

4.ultheating over time inceased from 150 to 180

5.sprint restores 25hps while active.

6.blind duration reduced from 1.5s to 0.8s

[u/NoAudience8992]

Why is wanda here???? She has it good now days, hell wanda can rival punisher now (well excluding punishers shotgun bc that thing is BS)

[u/PhilledZone → u/NoAudience8992]

I'm pretty sure they just picked random launch heroes for the post

[u/SythAim → u/NoAudience8992]

She absolutely has suffered. Balancing then unnecessary hate from the playerbase. Shes in a better spot now a little tho

[u/LALLIGA_BRUNO]

Poor cap, I remember he used to be annoying back in the stone ages, he would run around your team and jump around the point, refusing to die... Now everytime he enters the fight he becomes a victim

[u/Soggy_Natural7529 → u/LALLIGA_BRUNO]

I want the games balance to be slowed down so bad. Because characters like cap, Angela that were once annoying and could be effective. Are now just slightly annoying and get bullied hard

[u/LALLIGA_BRUNO → u/Soggy_Natural7529]

Nerf everything, right now DPS do an absurd amount of DMG and heals are equally ridiculous. You will get deleted If you stop receiving heals for a second. That's not very healthy...

[u/Redacted_G1iTcH]

How is Thor not on the list:

He was mid/weak, then got reworked into an awakening merchant S1.5 which nobody asked for, then progressively competed for worst tank in the game for several seasons. His ultimate is a complete joke too, as it has been since launch. You can walk out of it, or just blow him up because he has no way of fighting back during ult.

Even now he’s a throw pick. The only conversations about him now is just him being a skin merchant. But what good are skins if you pick the character and just become a victim in any lobby diamond+

[u/WhiteVoltage → u/Redacted_G1iTcH]

When I'm bored and/or mildly intoxicated, I'll still hop on Thor in QP and see how it goes. Against anyone competent he's pretty screwed, but every now and then you get a game where you can bully and bonk people with reckless abandon and i kinda live for that sometimes.

[u/walter_blanco37]

Spiderman. Hes quite literally unusable unless you were already super super good at him b4 the super saiyan supports

[u/Clumsy_dude]

Hulk easy

[u/SythAim]

I would say Wanda but atleast she was getting skins pre rework

[u/Stunning-Penalty2573]

Loki has been nerfed to hell many times.

[u/Longshot12345678]

Star-lord might be up there, the element guns just kind of become normal sci-fi lasers instead of having crazy powers, nowadays I bet they’d have effects

[u/PkmnTrnr00 → u/Longshot12345678]

Star-Lord’s element guns are a thing that bugs me because they should be cooler and have more effect than just bullets but I don’t think that is what OP is talking about. They’re talking about which launch character has suffered the most since season 0 and I don’t think Star-Lord really qualifies for that because he’s been a minimum of B tier since the beginning and has been given many skins as well

[u/Vegetable-Meaning413]

Hawkeye doesn't get anything. Barely gets skins, gets a buff that is undone a month later, then is crap for the next year.

[u/mcfryus → u/Vegetable-Meaning413]

Tbh I’m glad he’s not good. One shots are very unhealthy for the game.

[u/Strong_Nobody_7752 → u/mcfryus]

I mean if you have good positioning it isn’t too bad because you aren’t getting sniped as much

[u/Sapowski_Casts_Quen → u/Vegetable-Meaning413]

They are gonna nerf him any day now

[u/ineedtostopthefap]

No mention is Iron man is what is the wrong with this community

[u/ProofByVerbosity]

Suffered the most? Cap. Abysmal, to viable to abysmal. Poor guy is getting toyed with. Wanda was always a viable low elo pick, im still was used, hulk and adam were always screwed and strange has always been fine

[u/vaed__]

Loki bc wth would they make him a healbot.

[u/CurrencyStandard917]

Doctor Doom

[u/lNSP0]

Warlock

[u/Onejjob69]

It’s between Cap and Hulk imo

[u/DOKKOo]

Hulk feels like ass

[u/MedusaSucks68]

It's Iron Man and it's nowhere near close btw

Straight up one of the two worst characters in te game

[u/FUCKYOU101012010]

After about 2 years, for the love of God, can we get rid of our glitches Netease?

[u/Sapowski_Casts_Quen]

Lorewise? No one knows

[u/Electrical-Horse5112 → u/Sapowski_Casts_Quen]

its like half of the launch roster but i think hulks first major lore appearance since s2 (joe fixit at hellfire gala) was literally to be dead on the cover of s10 i think mosr everybody else has an original skin that ties into lore somehow

[u/TopFly5724]

No contest either. With his "The world needs us now... more than ever!" ass kit. 🦍

[u/ThatCheekyBastard]

Drax. He’s basically invisible because he just stands there doing nothing. Needs a hotfix.

[u/LimeDifficult753]

iron man, wouldve said wanda if she didn't get reworked recently

[u/widowsbaby]

Black widow

where do I even begin

[u/MilfLover33714 → u/widowsbaby]

They won’t get it

[u/widowsbaby → u/MilfLover33714]

Never 😔

[u/lopsided-buyreborn]

I think the character that took 1 year to have a legendary and got a rework and then her reputation gutted because someone didn't swap to another character

[u/LALLIGA_BRUNO → u/lopsided-buyreborn]

LMAO, did that tournament really mess up all widow players reputation?

[u/lopsided-buyreborn → u/LALLIGA_BRUNO]

Yes dawg where have you been

Couldn't play a game properly without someone going justice for Kingsman or saying yo widow are we playing for the vibes or being toxic because I wanted to play black widow

[u/LALLIGA_BRUNO → u/lopsided-buyreborn]

I was right here man 😭 I watched the entire drama. I must've missed all the in-game hate though since I didn't see much of it at all when I played wanda

[u/tony431]

Human torch. The most nerfed character in the game.

[u/Time_Pass_2939 → u/tony431]

Launch Character?😭

[u/Relative_Gas1971 → u/tony431]

Torch didn’t suffer on release at all, in fact he’s the reason why flyers were meta back in season 1.5 to 2.5, but now he dead in a dark alley somewhere

[u/psykiris]

Damn I feel like I'm the only one rootin' for my boy Rocket.

Right now he's just been power creeped by everything. Gave him one season where they overtuned his ult, and he's been in a bad spot since. 

[u/beav_mimikyu → u/psykiris]

I don't think a character with such a high PR and WR is "in a bad spot", he's just boring

[u/LordCaedus13]

Hulk sad

[u/InternationalCup5950]

Wanda is a a friendly hero for beginners so its ok to have her in low tiers .. but hulk .. i dont play tank but it really makes me sad to see his otps try to make him work so hard he suffers alot from CC like fuck it give him 2X bubbles make him opressive for half season at least

[u/Special_Program_9826]

Hulk..

[u/whydoyou-ask]

I can agree with some Widow players as genuinely there was like a 6-12 month period where even hovering the character for a second could meaningfully reduce your team’s chances of winning because of the psychic damage your teammates take from it. Not to mention the whiplash of her entire play style being reworked, effectively punishing everyone who managed to get good on her before.

But my vote is Adam. Outside of some weird gimmick comps with certain teamup stacks, he’s never been truly viable, especially in standard 2-2-2 comps.

[u/Ninjagofan217]

Magneto, or adam. Hulk just needs buffs.

[u/Electrical-Horse5112 → u/Ninjagofan217]

magneto?????? i know people are biased towards their main but jesus christ

[u/Ninjagofan217 → u/Electrical-Horse5112]

No. I just don't find it accurate, it's strong but not my magneto personality.