Two prospective lawyers meet in an alley way. Prospective lawyer A says, I will shoot you unless you give me your wallet. Prospective lawyer B, terrified, immediately dives into his pockets and hands it over.
A then shoots B. While one the ground, B says, “but I gave you my wallet” to which A responds, “you confused the sufficient and necessary condition” and coldly walks away, going on to score a 175.

basically title! i've worked through all of the newer tests (150s), also done every practice test. I see a lot of posts that the latest LSATs are trickier for LR, and more logic game-y. Is it beneficial to study these questions from tests that had LG sections?

Throughout the last cycle I posted weekly updates on application numbers and LSAT scores. Once summer hit, the new applicant numbers slowed down so much as to not need regular updates. But now that a new cycle has started, we have new numbers to review. Let’s take a look at the first numbers from the new cycle. Per LSAC data, we are 17% of the way through the cycle in terms of total applicant count. Here's the breakdown of Applicants, compared to last year:

Let’s put these in context. Last cycle was wild, with perhaps the fastest start in history. Early applicant numbers were up over 30%, so to have a less competitive cycle (which is good for you), you want to see these early numbers down, and the more the better. So, seeing the early applicant numbers up 12% isn’t optimal, but also, this is just the start and in recent years more applicants have been front-loading. So it’s too early to make a call here—we need to see how things look in a month or so. I’d bet it slows down steadily.

Let’s take a look at the LSAT scores for the applicants so far:

The numbers here will move around a bit, but what you want to see is relatively fewer high scores. That’s because last year saw some ridiculous increases in higher scores: an 11.3% increase in 160-164 scores, a 14.7% increase in the 165-169 range, a 19.1% increase in 170-174 scores, and an astounding 21.7% increase in 175-180 scores. Right now we are seeing slightly lowered numbers, which is generally good for everyone.

TL;DR: We are only 17% of the way through the cycle, so numbers are both small and early and they will move in the coming weeks and months! That said, early returns are slightly ahead of last year and the question is whether they will remain there.

Any questions, please let me know!

I've taken a few practice tests and gotten around 170-173 on them. I just started about 2 weeks ago and I'm looking for someone who can help me determine what I need to work on that isn't just take more practice tests!

I will not be taking the November LSAT but if I end up needing to take it I will do the one in January!

Hi! I am a college senior currently and plan on taking a gap year and my goal is to take the LSAT in February, but that is flexible. This was my diagnostic score, admittedly I had studied a little bit before taking this, but not as consistently as recently. I’ve been studying an hour everyday with a few off days using LSAT demon. My gpa is a 3.2 right now because my freshman year I was a bum and didn’t focus on school as much, but I have gotten deans list sophomore year and forward. The LSAC is probably going to give me a lower GPA as my school has grade redemption and I failed a class. I’m really relying on my LSAT score to get in a good school + get scholarship money. I would just like any tips/opinions. Thank you!

is the additional practice on lawhub the same as the sections from the prep tests on lawhub?

I made a really dumb name for my Lawhub account a while back, and I just called to ask if I could change it, apparently you can't ToT. Does anyone have any advice on what to do? I'm super worried about this, but I'm at a loss for what to do.

Hey everyone! I’m preparing for the November LSAT and would appreciate advice on improving over the next month.
I scored a 155 on my first LSAT, and my practice scores have stayed mostly in the mid-150s. I’m using LSAT Demon, and my LR accuracy is generally 68–70%. My weakest areas are Necessary Assumption, Weaken, Must Be True, and Parallel Reasoning/Sufficient Assumption.

My main challenges are comprehension, focus, timing, and second-guessing. I sometimes struggle to identify the conclusion or retain what I’ve read, though rereading slowly often helps. I can also spend two or three minutes on one question and run out of time before the final few questions.
I work full-time, so I’m trying to balance timed practice, targeted drilling, and thorough review. With about a month until the November 11 LSAT, how should I structure my studying? What helped you break out of the mid-150s, especially with comprehension, timing, and Necessary Assumption or Parallel Reasoning questions? HELP ME 🙃

So don’t judge me but I took a 2 month break from LSAT prep because I scored terribly in August, it was my first official LSAT and idk I thought I was ready/prepared, I was not.

Since I have not studied in so long, I started earlier this evening. I was going to start out my first 3-5 days just drilling to get my brain back into it. Is this bad to do? Or should I just retry a timed section? Because once it starts to come back to me, I’ll do one day timed + heavy review, the next day untimed + heavy review.

The reason why I’m asking is because this is the longest LSAT break I ever took. I had my reasons why I took a break, but getting back into it today was easier than I thought but also kinda nerve racking since I scored terribly the first time I took it. I’m just figuring out how to get back into it. I don’t want to make the same mistakes I made last time and I do think even though I did awful the first time, I learned a lot about myself in that process

Is the "Additional Practice" section available with LawHub Plus helpful? It opens with the disclaimer "These supplemental practice materials are not authorized, endorsed, or recommended as official LSAT preparation materials by LSAC. These supplemental practice materials are solely intended for the purpose of providing additional practice related to the relevant skills related to logical reasoning, reading comprehension, and analysis that are analogous to the skills tested on the LSAT and your performance on these supplemental items is not indicative or reflective on how you may perform on the official LSAT," but the materials appear to come from official LSAT PrepTests.

Hello everyone!

I am looking for a tutor that can do a few lessons with me before November test. I have taken LSAT four times including the most recent October administration, I have been scoring pretty OK but want to see if a tutor can help me cover the areas I am struggling with. I am open to remote instruction! Will only need 3-4 lessons total.

I appreciate all your help :)

I'm taking the November LSAT and aiming for a 170+. I have scored three 165s, then finally a 171, which I was stoked about. When I scored 171, I felt confident while I was studying, taking sections and getting only 1-3 wrong. Then two weeks ago I scored a 162 and was devastated. Since then, I feel like I'm consistently getting 3-6 questions wrong on every section. I'm drilling questions that I keep getting wrong (NA, Diagramming, and Paradox are my top three terrible types), but I can't get out of this rut. Do I cancel the test? I know a big part is confidence, but I don't know how I got so in the groove and now lost it. I also keep taking sections to try to get back to my previous consistent good scores, but I know spamming questions is just a bad idea. Any advice would be helpful.

Hi everyone, I’m looking for advice on my current situation and want to see if people who can relate can share their point of view. I’m open to hearing back on the outcomes of anyone who has been on the same boat. I just turned 23 and am feeling very behind. I’ve been studying since April 2026 and realized I wasted my time on methods that haven’t worked and I’m set to take the November LSAT next month. I don’t feel ready at all and am PTing in the 150s, but am so impatient. I’m accepting the fact that I have to push it another cycle. I can’t afford law school, ESPECIALLY now with a cap of grad plus loans. My only option is to really get a good enough score to get scholarships. Anyone ever been in the same situation, and what made you truly feel okay about taking your time and not being on a time rush at all?

I just did the writing section. I read the screen about scanning the room but expected to hit next and be walked through the process. I hit next and it started the test smh so I didn’t scan the room. Am I going to have to do it all over again?

any idea how long it's currently taking to approve argumentative essays. I took mine on 10/13 in the evening. still pending. I think the test went smoothly other than the fact that I wrote a shit essay.

Even I’m thinking it’s not that great…honestly, this sub might have skewed my perspective. Anyway, to my fellow 160s congrats! I know you worked hard and good things are in your future!

I met him through an ad on fb. Checked him out and was amazed. If you are where I was. It's definitely worth it.

He's on reddit under LatrellSprewell88 or his cellphone at

(347)494-1643

I put together a discord server for the 2026-2027 cycle if anyone is interesting in forming a small group to chill, chat, and discuss personal statements or late LSATs.

Hopefully can help a bit on status updates, essay swapping, and moral support!

https://discord.gg/beBpPCR467

I graduated about 3 years ago and have been in the workforce! Just decided I want to go to lawschool

I've been out of school for so long, is it unrealistic to have a timeline of

Feb-March 2027 Take LSAT

April 2027 - Apply

I'll have to start studying, my job has been at a lawfirm! But I feel like I dont even know where to start

So I disabled gramerly but it somehow still came up and highlighted the misspelled words but didn’t give me a suggestion…are they gonna come for me?

So I have tried Test Masters and I really could not get behind the strict classroom instruction with a bunch of rules and guidelines in order to be successful at this exam. I'm having the worst time trying to motivate myself to study for this test because it literally beats the hell out of my self-esteem and makes me feel like an absolute moron every time I see just how bad I am at getting LR and RC questions correct. Everyone says "take it slow and reread the questions and understand exactly why the answer is the way that it is." Which in theory makes sense, however, it almost seems pointless to do considering that you never see the same question twice.

Someone give me some pointers, tell me what you did, whether it be strategies, habits, training your dog extremely well, idk. Sometimes the idea of taking this test to me is the equivalent of the time that hulk hogan took too many clotheslines to the head and decided he could act. End rant.

Someone recently posted about their struggles with necessary versus sufficient issues. I asked for some examples and they were kind enough to provide three of them.

I’m one of those weird old guys who works from home and lives alone (very happily) with his cat. I also like to write. I’m posting this rather than replying as a comment because quite frankly, Reddit’s data analytics indicates that I’ll reach at least 10 times as many readers. 

I intend to post an explanation for two of these questions (one of them is from PT 101, which is too old).

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This question can be approached in two or three ways (you’ll see). 

The best way is to try to identify the assumption that would guarantee the truth of the conclusion by reading the stimulus exactly like this:

Conclusion: If Skiff’s book is as important and as well written as he claims, he will be promoted.

WHY?

Because the dean will surely promote Skiff if Nguyen keeps her promise to recommend it. 

AND

Because if Skiff’s book is published this year, Professor Nguyen she will urge the dean to promote Skiff.

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For many students, reading the stimulus in this way reveals the assumption. But what if a student doesn’t see it? By knowing exactly how to eliminate wrong answers. 

This second approach assumes that the reader has a basic understanding of how necessary and sufficient conditions work. In fact, a basic understanding of these issues is almost always enough to eliminate any tricky wrong answer. 

In other words, I’m not so sure the LSAT is asking students to have a complete mastery of formal logic. Rather, the LSAT just wants students to understand how formal logic can go wrong.

Please know that the following is ubiquitous when it comes to sufficient assumption questions with a conditional conclusion. For example, section 1, question 17 of the the April 2025 LSAT disclosure test. 

Everyone knows that the correct answer to an SA question will guarantee the truth of the conclusion. Put another way, the correct answer will create a valid argument. 

Some people don’t know the following rule, though: All information in the correct answer will be explicitly discussed in or directly inferable from the stimulus. This means that an answer with information that is not explicitly discussed or is not directly inferable from the stimulus is automatically wrong.

The above rules means that choice B (Skiff needs) and choice C (Nguyen believes) can be promptly eliminated.

The key here though is the fact that the conclusion is conditional. Specifically, IF Skiff’s book is as important and as well written as gift claims (THEN) he will be promoted.  

For SA questions with a conditional conclusion, multiple wrong answers will feature certain basic formal logic problems. As I mentioned previously, this is still happening in the most recent tests.

Rephrasing choice D: IF Skiff’s book is published THEN it is as important and as well written as he claims it is. 

Choice D switches the sufficient condition of the conclusion (IF important) to the necessary condition. A good example of formal logic gone wrong, so wrong answer.

Rephrasing choice E: IF Skiff will be promoted THEN Professor Nguyen urged the dean to do so.

Choice E switches the necessary condition of the conclusion (THEN he will be promoted) to the sufficient condition. Another good example of formal logic gone wrong, so wrong answer. 

Deductive reasoning indicates that since four answers have now been definitively eliminated, choice A must be the right answer.

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NOTE: These questions (SA featuring a conditional conclusion) have other basic and easy-to-identify wrong answers if you know what to look for. Specifically, they will merely rephrase a conditional statement from the evidence, sometimes in a flawed manner.

For example, for this question, the first sentence is also conditional: IF Skiff’s book is published this year (THEN) Professor Nguyen vows she will urge the dean to promote Skiff.

Typical wrong answers might merely rephrase the above using different language, but ending up with the same form (for example, the contrapositive). Other wrong answers might just reverse the two conditions. 

For example: Skiff’s book will not be published this year unless Professor Nguyen vows she will urge the dean to promote Skiff.

Another example: IF Professor Nguyen vows she will urge the dean to promote Skiff THEN Skiff’s book is published this year.

To be clear, the above is a flawed reversal. But of course, still a wrong answer.

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The kinda/sorta third way to approach this question is to identify what I refer to as Unique Elements (ideas discussed exactly once in the relevant parts of an argument). 

For this question, the two unique elements are Skiff’s book is published this year and Skiff’s book is as important and as well written as Skiff claims.

Unfortunately, two answers discuss both Unique Elements and D looks more attractive because it includes more of the second unique element. 

But choice D is definitely wrong because of the formal logic problem. 

This is what I mean by two or three ways to approach the question. Students still need to know how to eliminate D even after finding the Unique Elements. But very often, only the correct answer will discuss the two unique elements. 

Happy to answer any questions.  

I started analysing my performance via the difficulty level of the questions I am doing, as opposed to the question type, and I notice that I get almost 80% of level 3s correct in every section / PT I take, but this accuracy is at less than 10% for level 4s. In my last 2 PTs I got no level 4s correct, which is what scares me.

How many level 4s appear on an actual exam? My brain literally goes to mush any time I encounter any one of these. It breaks my heart to see all reds in post PT review. I write the Nov (&Jan lsat), how do I drill / what kind of practice should I do before my exams to get better at lvl 4?