r/linuxaudio • • 19h ago

robin - tiny DAW

https://youtu.be/FrV0Yitu6mg

Hey Linux audio community,

This is a difficult announcement to make, and I know this is probably the wrong time to release something like this.

With the current landscape and more tools getting sloppier everywhere, things are only going to get worse, so I decided to launch it today in a bit of a rush.

For the context, I am a computer engineer and a pianist, and I love making pixel-art in my free time. I’ve been working on this project for quite a long time, since I wanted to easily make music for my pixel-art game.

I know how deeply this community values open source, and I'm a huge fan of it too, since all my past projects were open source.

However, since this is currently my only form of income, I’ve decided (for now) to put the binaries here on https://rendevs.itch.io/robin-daw , as closed-source.

Please only buy it if you genuinely want to support me, since you might get it open source later on. Note also that the project has been tested, but there might still be bugs since this is a first release.

To be completely upfront about what it is: it's a minimal DAW focused on low latency.

It does not support VST plugins right now.

If you give it a spin, I'd genuinely appreciate your thoughts and feedback.

- ren

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u/madsturbo 18h ago

Is there a demand for new DAWs or what is happening? This 3rd in one day.

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u/Radiant64 18h ago

That's what happens with AI and vibecoding. I've completely stopped checking out new projects. Anything new that's actually good just ends up drowning in a sea of slop.

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u/MageRen 18h ago

There will be even more, and that’s exactly why I decided to publish this project today. I don’t hate AI but I don’t like it either. It sucks a bit to know that I’ve studied years to learn how to code and everyone will be able to do insane projects in a single prompt. But at the same time I’ve learnt something along the way, and that’s what matters I think.

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u/madsturbo 18h ago

Linux has one huge audio problem and that is not lack of DAWs.

Someone really should fix or reinvent Yabridge.

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u/coolfunkDJ 18h ago

At least get it running properly on later versions of wine and not just staging 9.2.1 ffs!

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u/madsturbo 18h ago

I got latest Wine but I also got this frozen version "staging 9.2.1" for just to run VSTs.. and yet I still have to nudge every plugin window all the time to make GUI responsive.

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u/no_0F 17h ago

use the nightly build of yabridge. works fine for me and the latest wine-version. fixes the gui-problem too

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u/coolfunkDJ 15h ago

how stable is it though? that was my worry

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u/ericcmi 14h ago

That's a thing of the past. Only issue left over is the early versions of JUCE, that too has been addressed, so it' just on the plugin devs to update JUCE

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u/coolfunkDJ 14h ago

You sure? Because I recently updated both wine and yabridge to the latest stable builds and everything broke. Or is it just the nightly build?

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u/ericcmi 13h ago

I made this post a while back. Everything except early versions of JUCE9 vsts work perfectly here. https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxaudio/comments/1w8aqqb/comment/pcq2pi2/?screen_view_count=1

vstbridge is a fork of YA that has the fixes and a GUI plugin scanner. The fixes that it uses are now in YAbridge. I'm not sure if it's in latest or a WIP branch or what not though. So, I just use vstbridge, it works and I haven't had to touch it once since I made that post

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u/coolfunkDJ 13h ago

Woah hell yeah! Thank you for this i’m gonna try this tonight, this is why i love this community 😅

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u/ericcmi 13h ago

Best a luck, my guy. I tnink I forgot to add the repo in the post, lol. it's https://github.com/rations/vstbridge

Please reply in that post and let everyone know your platform and how successful it is. I'm happy to help if you have any issues

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u/Radiant64 18h ago

The issue isn't that they will be able to do insane projects in a single prompt; it's that people who previously weren't able to put in the effort required to make software are now able to make software without having to put in the effort. It's the same as with art and music. The effort put into something will still reflect on the quality of the end product, but since everyone is now able to have a go at it, the actual good stuff is just drowning in the low effort noise.

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u/MageRen 18h ago

Put into words perfectly.

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u/Junior-Apricot9204 18h ago

Sooo... Do i post my project today or not? Lol

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u/EwonRael 15h ago

Hi, this is a beautiful project and something I'm very excited to see. I have been getting really fatigued by the amount of low effort AI generated stuff in this subreddit recently.

I (am a little broke right now!) would love to pay for this! I also would be interested to look at the source code to maybe modify and make it mine. Is allowing source code tampering something you'd be open to or already a possibility with purchase?

Many thanks and good luck!!

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u/pelatho 17h ago

First of all, this is just epic!

Many are asking about plugin support, but... what if that limitation is a feature - not a bug?

For a tiny DAW like this, with some curated built in instruments, the limitation forces you to be creative. You also don't need to worry about the visual noise of different plugin windows dangling around over that beautiful pixel art, or get lost in trying out every new plugin and all their presets.

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u/denim_skirt 16h ago

Im 100% with you, a lack of plugin support is actually a serious selling point for me. I mostly make music on hardware at this point in my life because daws just feel like too much, but this looks like something i want to look at and learn. Super cool project.

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u/MageRen 17h ago

thank you so much! 🫶🏻

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u/Audiope 19h ago

Is it a DAW or a just a MIDI sequencer/tracker?

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u/MageRen 19h ago edited 19h ago

it is a small DAW, you can record/import clips and play your own instruments (SF2/SFZ) and has a mixer, but lacks of some features of DAW like reaper or bitwig ecc.. (like for example mixer or effect automation, VST/CLAP plugins, time-stretch) , for now :)

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u/BlazingZork 19h ago

I'm more interested in seeing it when it has some of those features, unfortunately.

When (if) it goes open source I'm going to become very interested in implementing features that might help me out in my microtonal endeavors.

Despite my very rudimentary coding skills...

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u/coolfunkDJ 19h ago edited 19h ago

sucks to say, but a DAW without VST support is useless to most people, despite the obvious quality work that’s been put into this! I think VST support is a top priority if you can :)

When it goes open source i might contribute to it :D

EDIT: You could always have a model when it goes OSS where you can pay for precompiled binaries but those with the know how can compile from source. I’m quite a fan of that model myself

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u/MageRen 18h ago

The model you’re mentioning is something I’m seriously considering. The main thing is, let’s consider for example Aseprite: it needs Cmake,Ninja,C++,… and takes quite a while to compile, so a few people, maybe afraid to use the terminal or that simply don’t want to waste time, buy the binary. Robin is really lightweight and it takes seconds to compile with just one make command and common packages. So if people buy robin’s binary it wouldn’t be really for convenience, but mainly to support me.
That said, this is a model I like and I’m genuinely considering doing so.

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u/Starsickle 15h ago

This is very cute and I'll keep an eye on it! Sadly, we're all poor, but sometimes! We aren't.

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u/kastanCZ 4h ago

I am sorry but gating this behind price is foolish in time of ai. In upcoming week, there will be another 5 DAWs that will gonna look same as yours but with more features + they will open source etc. Its sad reality but it is what it is.

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u/MageRen 1h ago

I see your point, but following that logic, we shouldn't sell games on Steam anymore either, since anyone can eventually reverse engineer them. I’ve put hard work into this software and I already said that I will like to eventually go open source. I know about the sad reality of the software industry right now, but I still want to put effort into the things I love doing.

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u/BlazingZork 19h ago

Looks like a precious project.

I don't have $25 but thought maybe an upvote and a comment might help.

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u/MageRen 19h ago

🫶🏻

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u/rileyrgham 16h ago edited 5h ago

Is that that the techie "thoughts and prayers"? 😉

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u/gbrennon Reaper 16h ago

this could be open-source and not closed-source...

:(

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u/MageRen 16h ago edited 16h ago

As I said, I’m considering open-sourcing this. Right now I have to focus on weathering a severe financial patch, and while I love doing open-source work, it unfortunately doesn't pay the bills (no complaints, that's just how it is). Once and if things stabilize, I plan to release it :)

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u/Arctic_Shadow_Aurora 18h ago

It's beautiful, but NTY.

I use Linux because its free. If I had the will to pay, I'd use Windows and pay for some of the big DAWs.

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u/maxm 15h ago

That is a strange attitude. Why won’t you pay for stuff you use. Don’t you get paid for what you do?

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u/Arctic_Shadow_Aurora 15h ago

I wouldn't call it strange. And I said the UI is beatiful cause I really think so.

But one of the main reasons why I use Linux, is because it's free. So yeah, I got used to FOSS.

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u/maxm 4h ago

Yeah but that is not what you write. You wrote that you are unwilling to pay. FOSS does not have to be gratis.

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u/MageRen 17h ago

Can't blame you. Freedom over everything.