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u/leon_reynauld 3h ago
Ha! Malaysia has an automated version of this. So selflessly provided by Indonesia. They provide it to Singapore too. More advanced, it covers the entire country.
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u/Orange9202 4h ago
TRANSLATION
Recently the PLA conducted a live fire exercise where aerosol smoke grenades are fired from a multi-launch rocket system (MLRS), this powerful weapon is a defensive countermeasure which deploys smoke around a wide area. This multispectral smoke screen blinds drones and thermal imaging / optical sensors. If any munition requires optical targetting the smoke system drops its visibility to 0, failing the attack with great effectivness. Other than that it is also very effective and providing defensive measures for military convoys. A single launcher with its 2 pods can carry a total of 72 rockets
ORANGE OUT 🚪🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️
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u/DannyCrane9476 3h ago
The occasional English words really tripped me up, made me wonder if I was miss hearing the other words.
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u/BobbyDig8L 25m ago edited 19m ago
Occasional? Almost every meaningful word was English. I can understand some Hindi (parents are from India) and I was kind of disappointed that they didn't have Hindi words and had to use so much English (or they did a super lazy job of looking up the right Hindi word, I don't know enough to actually determine if there are words they could have used instead of the English ones)
Edit: now I'm sure they were just lazy, watched again and literally the first word is "Recently" and I'm sure there is a Hindi word for that
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u/Abject_Film_4414 3h ago
This won’t fool any autonomous drone unless the target, I.e object hiding behind this defence, is moving quite fast.
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u/askmewhyiwasbanned 4h ago
Man, I hope that’s not white phosphorus
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u/Sm1throb 4h ago
Willy Pete doesn't spread like that. So no worries.
Source: I'm a guy who has thrown at least 12 WP grenades (Then ran into a bunker) for demonstration purposes. Have watched dozens more.
Note: You throw them, then haul ass into a bunker because the burst radius of of the M34 is farther than the normal guy can throw. M34 is designed to be rifle launched...but that's what we had.
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u/StanknBeans 4h ago
Yes I have questions.
How do you end up in this position?
What happens when they explode?
Do you blow up other things?
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u/Sm1throb 4h ago
- I got lucky.
- There is a burster inside the grenade that is designed to open the metal casing and spread the white phosphorus. It ignites on contact with air and burns at about 3,000 degrees. The white phosphorus produces a shit ton of very white smoke, and sets fire to pretty much anything it touches.
- Did. But not anymore. I'm retired.
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u/Jaded_Helicopter_376 3h ago
They were dropping wp on us in Afghanistan in 2013. Hit the dining facility while I was attempting to sit down to eat, even though I never really had time for that. I remember one of the birds got hit and one of our MTPs was walking by and used the on-board fire extinguisher to attempt to put it out. Ended up being a huge deal cause it was hard af to get another fire extinguisher certified where we were.
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u/Orange9202 4h ago
its supposed to be a "smoke screen" to conceal friendlies from drones and TV guided munitions (according to the narrator)
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u/EnjoyableBleach 40m ago
Could be titanium tetrachloride. It reacts with moisture in the air to form titanium dioxide (white powder) and hydrochloric acid.
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u/JELLY-ROCKET 4h ago
It looks like AI to me.
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u/Minute-West-1360 4h ago
May look like it, but it definitely is real
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u/shogunnachos 4h ago
How's it do vs radar?
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u/Fooligoo 3h ago
It's not design for radar. Just human vision.
Thermal vision can still see through it. But it is expensive and annoying to carry around all the time.
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u/C4n0fju1c3 3h ago
There is actually IR smoke that blocks thermals, as well as chaff smoke that can block radar. For example, western armies use defensive IR smoke, while the soviets historically used offensive non-IR smoke. Chaff smoke is rare outside of use with a few IFV's but, idk what kind of system is being shown in the video here.
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u/Arrowcreek 4h ago
How does a gas expand that quickly with no vortices?
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u/gene_keys_of_awesome 4h ago
U evr shoot one out into the bathtub?
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u/jagadoor 1h ago
The only thing more annoying than AI are the people commenting "this looks like AI" under every post. And no this doesnt look like AI at all you are just paranoid and should go outside for a bit.
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u/darkklown 3h ago
You are deployed. You can have 1) a SAM or b) a smoke bomb launcher.. choose wisely..
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u/OnlineMajor 4h ago
We do a similar thing here in Australia, although its baby powder in my pants and eating beans for a few days beforehand. Gives the same effect though
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u/Onlyroad4adrifter 4h ago
Neet! We also do something close to it in the US. Except we pollute and drain all or rivers so there is no water sources near the large farmlands. This causes a drought which helps accelerate the dry hot temps that create perfect conditions for another dust bowl and tornadoes.
I have a feeling your method could be quite lethal with the never ending gas supply and you got a convienient fuel source to fire up the BBQ.
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u/iMeretrix 3h ago
Eenteresting! Ireland can only relate to Australia on this one, we eat a hell of a lot of beans anyway and that's just blown up with the Brazilian population here. Accentuated, of course, by our national dish of a pint of Guinness with a pack of dry roasted peanuts.
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u/Abacada_Poln_Kha_Kha 3h ago
I cant tell if this is english or not
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u/Any-Pause3348 3h ago
It's Hinglish. (Using English for technical words, and hindi for grammatical structure, the video is prolly from India, since most videos in India which have hindi in them tend to be like us.)
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u/pichael289 3h ago
Anyone who has ever played a metal gear solid game knows just how OP smoke is. It's the best weapon the more the games go on. In mgsv it's top tier, especially the most suit that makes a slightly less effective one but has effectively infinite (moves with you and blocks even far off sniper fire) range. You can also throw one in your jeep and drive it straight through the final major mission straight to the end without being seen. Instant S rank
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u/Butthurtz23 2h ago
Xi Jinping used it to hide himself from spy satellites while he’s doing something naughty.
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u/HappyContact6301 3h ago
Hmmm, World War I saw the deployment of a Nebelwerfer. What is more concerning is that you can throw more than just 'fog' with it.
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u/Paulverizr 2h ago
Just looks like TiCl4, but could be any another metal that oxidizes rapidly. I’d go with my first assumption, given that it’s cheap.
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u/Starman388 2h ago
Was he speaking English? If he was I feel like I was having a stroke and my ability to understand him was being turned on and off
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u/ICLazeru 2h ago
Seems like it might work on slow drones, or human aimed munitions, but a smart munition or higher speed attack drone might still basically be on target when it makes it through, or close enough unless the target beneath is really motoring.
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u/BlazingBlossom 29m ago
I'm not too familiar with Indian languages but I assume this is Hindi, but it's so cool to see how they switch between Hindi/English words in the same sentence
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u/MichiruYamila 25m ago
Ah i see, thats how they made the scene in infinity war. (or what ever the Name was)
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u/thx1138- 3h ago
If we're using HARMS or an AMRAAM, none of this will matter.
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u/TheRealTinfoil666 3h ago
Aside from the capital cost of the system, I wonder what the Salvo cost is per use?
Plus there would be a huge logistical tail keeping this system fed if the enemy uses many drones over a sustained campaign.
Compared to the cost of a few kamikaze drones, this would not be cheap. The Ukrainians are winning their drone war with Russia even when Russia is able to shoot down some drones, because the countermeasures cost way more than the drones. And some of the drones get through to their targets anyways.
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u/War_Hymn 2h ago
It's essentially doing the job of a dozen mortar teams firing smoke shells, but rolled into a single mobile vehicle. It has its merits, especially if that smoke can disrupt thermal optics and laser designators.
I can see this being useful for covering troops movements and advances during an assault of a defended enemy position where you don't need to maintain a 24 hour screen - just maybe half an hour time for your guys to get out of their dugouts or bunkers and cross no man's land.
It being the Chinese, they'll probably be able to make and deploy these things at a third of the cost as us.
The US military is working on similar smoke systems, like the M75 SOM that was tested last year. The M75 isn't as cool though, basically a smoke generator machine you can mount to an Humvee that can create a wide smokescreen that blocks NV and IR thermals for 12 minutes.
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u/HobsHere 3h ago
It's good to be economical, but you don't win wars by being thriftier than your adversary.
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u/Thommywidmer 2h ago
Yeah but the point being its harder or as hard as ever to push around weaker military opponents because of how economical drone warfare is. And the cost of a protracted war where your setting cartoonish piles of cash on fire constantly to operate the defensive systems tends to not be very popular
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u/Phaeron 1h ago
Useless against technology unless there’s microcrystalline…. Uh…. Stuff I can’t talk about… in there… in which case sure you’ll win that battle but enjoy your soldiers acute silicosis in five years. No, your gas mask won’t stop it… you’ll just suffocate for your country in half a decade.
PSA!
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u/riverrake 4h ago
Well im sure this is fine for the planet and wont have any unforseen side effects
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u/JELLY-ROCKET 4h ago
Military ordnance always puts safety and environmentalism first. So it's fine.
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u/Prize_Yam_7143 3h ago
This is AI and complete nonsense 😂
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u/an_older_meme 3h ago
Looks like a white phosphorus smoke screening shell from here. All NATO countries have something similar.
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u/Earthsoundone 3h ago
Really glad it only showed 1 second of smokescreen three times.