Just finished Light Bringer last night.

FUCK LYSANDER FUCK THE CORE FUCK THE SOCIETY FUCK MERCURY FUCK ATLAS FUCK ALL DEM HOES.

RIP MY HOMIE CASSIUS

DARROW BETTER WHOOP THAT LIL BRATS ASS OR IMMA GET WILD IN THIS MOTHAFUCKA.

That’s all. Thank you.

"on god I think using pinks is cruel. Anyway I'm throwing a diddy party next week, free pinks for all!"

"on god I would have fought Alexandar, I just didn't have time!"

give me slavery, give me fire, give me a gun and a safe shooting distance or i retire

just finished re-reading lightbringer. to be honest, before i was still a bit sympathetic towards lysander (even after he killed my love alexandar) cause he gets put in a lot of bullshit situations and really SEEMS like he wants to make the good choice. tells himself he wants to make the moral choice

At the end of LB he actually gets the chance to do the good he claims he wants, and what does he do? He murders the only man who ever loved him. No one left to pull your feet now pixie bitch, I'm gonna laugh my ass off when they hang him in Mars. hail reaper and hail votum lowk i love cicero

Burn himmm

Obviously by LB we’ve gone way too far—he’s committed war crimes and killed all sorts of important people on both sides of the war.

But if you’re IG Lysander and you hate the way the Republic is handling crime, social policy, etc… why not just tell Cassius you want to make for Luna and make a name in politics?

He has the head for it and there is clearly substantial dissatisfaction with Virginia’s regime. Especially if Mercury with all its loyalist low colors gets brought into the Republic, I’m sure he at minimum gets elected senator.

It would have been a long shot, but so is his current plan, and a campaign for Sovereign involves far fewer atrocities and compromised values. Sevro would of course have asked to kill him, but I guarantee Virginia reins Sevro in for the sake of democracy.

Does Lysander really hate the idea of Democracy—or perhaps just the idea of sharing power—so much that this never even crosses his mind as he mills through his mind palace of 1 billion contingencies?

I am Cassius Bellona, son of Tiberius, son of Julia, brother of Darrow, Morning Knight of the Solar Republic, and my honor remains. Art done by me.

In other words, fuck au luuuneee...

WHAT THE F**K DO YOU MEAN YOU HUNG CASSIUS'S MANGLED BODY TO MAKE A POINT??? He saved you, little ungrateful piece of shit. You use your saviour's death to obliterate the food supply; oh, all the deaths Darrow caused- millions- are not right, but me and my grandma can do it because we are born GOLD!

I had hope that this little prick would kill Atlas and help Cassius. But nah, His golden Lannister ass wants to commit genocide on people, the same people that were treated like slaves! My god, Sevro should have pulled a lorn au arcos and skewered this little Mr Served Everything on a platter's head.

Lys/ King Pixie is the perversion of Julian. Like if Julian wasn’t paired with Reap and had survived with the Chin this whole time

Just finished Lightbringer, fuckkkkkkk Lysander.

Lysander from beginning of Light Bringer, in standard Peerless kit, (scarabskin, pulseshield and razor), no other tech or backups. What is a character from another piece of fiction that would be able to no-diff him in a fight?

I think standard kit Ant-Man from Marvel, Morty from Rick and Morty, Han Solo from Starwars and even just Sportacus from Lazytown could all do it fairly easily. Seriously, Sportacus eats one apple and then it’s bye-bye pulseshield.

I know Lysander is hated but I can't help but have some respect for him

Yes he's a hypocritical person who genuinely believes he's the good guy but also looking at his achievements I can't help but admire how he raised himself up from a penniless boy who lost his name to being one of the Peerless.

He wasn't handed the influence and power he enjoys on a silver platter, he got in the mud and fought by the skin of his teeth, with the way he is hated before I read the second trilogy I thought he's a pampered brat who's never seen action and gets everything handed to him while sitting on a soft cushion. But no, it's quite the opposite he has proven himself militaristically and politically, a force to be reckoned with on both ends.

His performance on Mercury was admirable, bro can write a book about that if he becomes Sovereign, that's when I actually gained some measure of respect for him, falling in an Iron Rain, getting stranded by himself with a bunch of Peerless hunting for his head and proceeding to make short work of them without even enlisting the help of Apollonius even though it was right there. Then going on to defeat the Apex Gold Predator of all time Darrow in battle, I actually felt proud of the little fucker. He spent years in exile away from action, of course he'd rely on a gun instead of a Razor, would've been stupid to go against some of the best Razormasters with decade long experience because of pride, that's unbecoming of a leader.

I know the hate he receives from blasting the Crimson Jaw and Darrow from wish( Alexander ) but I don't blame him, he picks his fights wisely and performs efficiently. And i really like his by any means necessary mindset, proper Peerless Iron Gold stuff .All in all he very much deserves the gravitas and auctoritas he enjoys now.

Disclaimer: I'm no fan of the pricklick but think of it as me seeing him how the Society remnant sees Darrow.

Thank you.

when will my hatred find solace?

For reference, I'm almost halfway through Morning Star. I've thankfully not run into any spoilers regarding the rest of series, but I don't exist in a vacuum. I know Lysander is one of the most hated characters in all of Red Rising, maybe all of science-fiction.

So during Darrow's sit down with the Soverign when we met him for the first time, it did instill within me this undercurrent of foreboding.

I was like, "Oh, it's you...YOU'RE the problem that's on the horizon" 🤣

I cannot wait to join the rest of you in sharing the contempt for this kid, cuz something tells me it's gonna be BAD.

“Drusilla speaks of the Dream of Persephone. Of helping the people, as if all lowColors were paupers and slaves before the Rising.

        It’s a laugh. I’ve met Reds and Browns happier than most Golds I know, and all of them with better lives than the Grays who fed our military machine. But Grays never broke under the hardship. Of all the Colors, they’ve remained the most loyal to the Society.”

I’ve just read this passage, right after he was captured with Alexandar in the dungeons. At first I felt sorry for him, but man does he make it hard to sympathise. You’d think he’d be a bit more self aware considering how clever he is

It’s from Iron gold and I believe the moon lord lads called Lysander it before Cassius went into his series of duels
Can’t find it for the life of me and need this quote to remind how much of a bitch Lysander is

I am currently in iron gold close to the end, and I hate lysander's pov. All he does is whine how darrow destoryed his life, destoryed peace in system, bitch your grandma nuked a moon. Do I have to suffer him in Light bringer and Dark Age too?

what I said in the title

While reading the series - I couldn't stop myself and went ahead and checked the Red Rising reddit and everyone really piled on the hate for Lysander.

Iron Gold - ok, he seems a little interesting but mostly a boring charactee, doesn't seem that bad

Dark Age - ok, I get the hate, but also I dont super fucking hate him that much

Light Bringer - ok yes, fuck Lysander, I hope he dies a slow death

It was like The Song of Achilles - "What has Hector ever done to me?"

And now I know.

I am still devastated and may never recover.