r/europe • u/LoquatNo3841 • 8h ago
News EU ministers plan hybrid threat response amid warnings of Russian sabotage
https://www.euronews.com/2026/09/28/eu-mininsters-plan-response-to-hybrid-attacks-amid-warnings-of-russian-sabotage8
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u/GrowingHeadache 7h ago
Sometimes I wonder why we are so slow and toothless. If the USA got hybrid attacks like this, things would’ve gone a lot different.
National governments are too power hungry to hand over the power to a European one. Divide and conquer is working well for the large powers in the world
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u/Hyperboreer 5h ago
Russia has put a guy in the White House. That is basically the blueprint for what they are trying to do in Europe.
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u/LoquatNo3841 7h ago
We're not even being informed that there is serious evidence of Russian Operations targeting European youth and protests. This is a total failure for Europe as of now, and the question is, when will the figureheads behind europe directly and in public declare that we are being influenced? We are given vague warnings and behind-the-scenes "plans" and "responses" but as of now, the effect is only escalating
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u/FatherMozgus 4h ago
Yeah at some point they just need to stop with the vague statements and do a press conference and tell it like it is. Explain what exactly is going on.
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u/Rod_tout_court 1h ago
Because most european countries sold their ability to defense themself to the USA.
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u/Lazder 8h ago
Hybrid response? Why bother, just activate article 5.0 of NATO and 'Liberate' Russia Desert Storm style. Done.
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u/LoquatNo3841 8h ago
Because an actual armed war would cause a lot of suffering, and Russia could frame Europe for the mess claiming they escalated it from hybrid to active
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u/lemonprincess23 United States of America 2h ago
Just nuke them then… we have anti ICBM technology so the “but what if they nuke us back?!” Argument doesn’t exist. Russia is weakened and this is the perfect opportunity to erase the nation from existence and just end the issue once and for all
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u/Rod_tout_court 1h ago
Because nuking a country is basically a genocide. I know we are not very strong at defending values but this line is a big one to cross. Anti-ICBM are probably not 100% accurate and the russians have a lot of nukes.
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u/Lazder 8h ago
I don't recall desert storm causing any trouble to Europe or USA. This will be the same, stop fear mongering.
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u/LoquatNo3841 7h ago
I'm not fear mongering. i'm all for the defense of Europe, but an invasion of Russia by NATO would not at all be the same as an invasion of Iraq. And who knows if the US will actually help in the operation? And Article 5 doesn't neccessarily force military action so the US could send an "aid package" and call it a "response."
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u/smeijer87 The Netherlands 7h ago
Who knows if the US will help? They won't. They'll probably even forbid using weapons we bought from them.
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u/Scorpius_OB1 6h ago
And if that was going to happen, Russia would surely use tactical nukes at the very least besides what has been stated of them being seen as the defenders instead of what's happening in Ukraine now.
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u/diamanthaende 7h ago
The point is to prevent war by getting armed to the teeth, not actually fight it.
The point is to make it futile for Russia to even consider it, because Europe has a lot more to lose than Russia has - we value our lives and our prosperity, thank you very much.
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u/Lazder 7h ago
sure, let's continue having poor Ukrainians die so we can enjoy our beer and bratwurst with croissant in peace.
Great.
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u/diamanthaende 7h ago
Poor Ukrainians dying is not a choice that those Bratwurst and Croissant munchers made, comrade.
Helping Ukraine is a necessity, but Europe as a whole needs to get ready for what comes after the Ukraine war. The so called "hybrid war" is only the first stage of that conflict.
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u/SummerIlsaBeauty 7h ago
Joint letter?