r/dankindianmemes • • 8h ago

Geopolitics What's your opinion guys ??

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u/Additional-Data45 3h ago

WHERE’S THE FCKING MEME?

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u/Virtual_Raise4913 33m ago

On positive side, permanent UN seat would have been with India, no kashmir with pak or coco islands issue, maybe partition would have annulled, who knows. On negative side, deep rooted fractures in the social fabric.

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u/Tall_Raspberry1992 25m ago

Wait for few more years. He will take us back to 1947. Then we can see for ourselves what he can do.

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u/unspoken_one2 2h ago

atleast kashmir problem would be resolved we would have had all Kashmir or none

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u/StruggleRich6437 1h ago

None would be the answer

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u/ImaginaryRock9865 17m ago

why do you think so?

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u/Equivalent-Name-1069 23m ago

Nope, india is always militarily stronger than pak, not to mention the narrative of Nehru calling hind chini bhai bhai would not be there, so we won't be trusting china blindly

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u/Ok-Advance962 2h ago

India at 1947 was desperately poor, unable to produce enough food, highly illiterate even more communally divided than today, much more caste and regional differences and much more dependent on west for tech, and a recalcitrant Pakistan which was more powerful than today, the one difference is China was not as powerful as today. Could Narendra Modi have managed the situation at 1947 ? I doubt it. He just built on the base and all the hard work done by earlier PMs ,not just Nehru, even from his own party Vajpayee. India would have broken apart under the leadership of Modi in 1947 due to internal , external and border pressures. His leadership style is based on mobilizing the victim fear of Hindus , an attitude which would have hastened the demise and breakup of India.

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u/TheVoidHasMemory 5h ago

If Nehru had led India in 2014, I don't think we would have seen the same Nehru we read about in history. His political philosophy was shaped by his exposure to the West, the intellectual climate of his time, and his years in prison, where he wrote The Discovery of India. He was an honest man with a vision, and India has arguably never had a Prime Minister quite like him since. Perhaps Abul Kalam Azad and Manmohan Singh came close, to some extent. But I am talking about them as human beings, not politicians. They were good men whose ideals were often compromised by the very party they represented. On the other hand, had Narendra Modi led India from 1947, I believe we would have ended up with a very different country, quite possibly a Hindu Rashtra, with an entirely different approach to foreign policy.

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u/Brusevayne 1h ago

If you look at history

*Jawaharlal Nehru donated approximately 98% of his personal assets to the nation—widely cited as around ₹196 crore in 1946 values (estimated by various sources to be equivalent to ₹12,000 crore to ₹16,000 crore today)*

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u/death_tickler 56m ago

He even donated indian land to china using his foreign policies and even left the council seat in UN for china. Very daanveer. 🥰

And your claim is so false, i ended up laughing so hard. So many larpers in this sub. 😹😹

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u/Brusevayne 34m ago

Not My Claim I stole it from Google

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u/Possible_Garage7231 41m ago

Sadly, India was never formally offered the UN seat. Both the 1950 and 55 offers were informal, the former due to the taiwan-china issue, where the UNSC wasn't certain about China's true representation. The 1955 Soviet Offer was useless too, since with the Cold War at the rise, there's no way US wouldn't have vetoed

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u/rysfcommando 10m ago

caught you bro, go and study it's your drop year

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u/Agitated_Bill_606 36m ago

You checked this info You can surely check how was India invaded and UN seat. It was intelligence failure on the part of IB that india lost the war aslo India was never offered any UN seat.

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u/death_tickler 2h ago

Holy larp 🤡😹

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u/hokie86 29m ago

We would be below pakistan and bangladesh. However this target is set for 2047.

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u/Old-Statement3496 5h ago

Hindi would be used more in entire india and the country would become north centric. Wayyy more communal riots and less population religious minorities. The advantages you can split into groups and sicuss amongst yourselves

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u/Independent_Crew2149 2h ago

btw all this shit happened under congress

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u/Emotional-Pear-1743 1h ago

Dinosaurs also became extinct under Congress rule. Dinosaurs will be born again under BJP rule in 9769047 A.D.

Sums up BJP's narrative? Eternally talking about the distant past and distant future, never about the present.

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u/Independent_Crew2149 2h ago

bjp solved ram mandir issue without a conflict

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u/Regular_Practice3444 2h ago

There would be no india left bro, Britishers said at that time that india will collapse under 10 years it was leaders like nehru and patel who saved everything.

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u/unspoken_one2 2h ago

patel lietrally died almost after 1st elections.

give credit where it is due there were no separatist elements in india at the dawn of independence expect kashmir

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u/Cheems_study_burger 1h ago

You have absolutely no idea. There were an unbelievable amount of separatists back then. There wasn't even a proper national identity in the minds of the people back then.

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u/unspoken_one2 1h ago

give separatists name that nehru dealt with then

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u/NothingOk7410 1h ago

If you literally open any case study or article about the political and ideological situation of that time you would have gotten your answer.

Can't believe that a real person is undermining the achievements of someone who literally saved India from collapsing from its lack of common identity

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u/unspoken_one2 1h ago

give me names bruh .

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u/NothingOk7410 1h ago

Naga insurgency (I'm part of the naga community so I know the history and lasting conflicts)

The mizo insurgency.

Dravida seperation movement.

And many more, I think there was one with punjab too.

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u/ChardMassive9479 1h ago

During his tenure as India's first Prime Minister (1947–1964), Jawaharlal Nehru faced several regional, ethnic, and political separatist or secessionist challenges: [1]

  • Naga Insurgency (Naga National Council / A.Z. Phizo): The Naga National Council (NNC), led by Angami Zapu Phizo, declared Nagaland independent on August 14, 1947, and launched an armed secessionist struggle, prompting Nehru's government to deploy the Indian military and enact early counter-insurgency measures. [1, 2, 3, 4]
  • Kashmir Separatism and Cross-Border Dispute: Following the accession of Jammu and Kashmir, Nehru faced armed conflict with Pakistan, internal political volatility, and early separatist/plebiscite sentiments within the valley (including movements led by the Plebiscite Front and the later friction involving Sheikh Abdullah). [1, 2, 3, 4]
  • Dravidian Separation Movement (Dravida Nadu / DMK): The Dravida Kazhagam and later the Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK) under C.N. Annadurai agitated for a sovereign southern state (Dravidistan or Dravida Nadu) separate from the Indian Union, which Nehru strongly opposed until the demand was formally dropped in 1963 following the 16th Constitutional Amendment. [1, 2]
  • Mizo National Famine Front / Early MNF Roots: Driven by grievances over the 1959–1960 Mizo famine and neglect by the Assam government, the Mizo National Famine Front—led by Laldenga—gradually transformed into the political and armed Mizo National Front (MNF), laying the groundwork for full-scale secessionist rebellion shortly after Nehru's era. [1]
  • Telangana Peasant Armed Struggle: Carried out by communist groups (under the Communist Party of India) in the princely state of Hyderabad and surrounding regions (1946–1951), this movement sought a radical agrarian overhaul and local secessionist/revolutionary control before being suppressed and integrated through police and military action.
  • Punjabi Suba / Sikh Linguistic and Autonomy Agitations: Led by the Akali Dal under Master Tara Singh, this movement demanded a separate Punjabi-speaking linguistic state (and included more radical voices pressing for autonomous or distinct religious-political recognition), though Nehru largely framed it as a linguistic reorganization issue rather than pure secession at the time

Lund dimaag bc

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u/bobs_and_vegana17 1h ago

There were groups in Manipur, nagaland, the nawab of Hyderabad also wanted to join pakistan, then there were small kingdoms in Bengal and gujrat who wanted to be a part of Pakistan and finally you have kashmir

Patel integrated around 500+ princely states while also making the kings of those kingdoms as mere common citizens

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u/Conscious-Advance727 21m ago

People said countries like Yugoslavia and India can never survive because of their diversity. Look what happened to Yugoslavia, and where we are. It's because of leaders like Nehru that India is still a united country.

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u/OpportunityGrabster 7h ago

India would've been already renamed Narendra Modi Kshetra. We would be compelled to keep a portrait of Narendra Modi hanging on the wall. Daily 2 times we would be compelled to offer prayers to that portrait at a specific times. All the roads and highways would be named as PM Narendra Modi highway 1,2,3 etc. Any criticism of Narendra Modi would be taken as a criminal offense (already happening...)

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u/thecursedguy22 2h ago

How much you got to comment this dalal ? An Right to Information (RTI) query revealed that over 450 schemes, buildings, roads, parks, and institutions across India have been named after members of the Nehru–Gandhi family (specifically Jawaharlal Nehru, Indira Gandhi, and Rajiv Gandhi) but you're talking about Modi

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u/additionalseasonin 34m ago

They deserve it it's honorary what did modi do just fake promises 100 smart cities? Where's bulet train Where's 15lakhs in my bank account a person who tries to "aalu se sona"

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u/Trippel_Karmeliet 22m ago edited 20m ago

SC/STs & Women would not have gotten voting rights in 1947 for sure .... By 2020 SC/STs would be even worse than today! That is 100% sure...!

Damn Ambedkar wouldn't even be allowed anywhere near Delhi....

Also India as we know today wouldn't have formed because of their non-inclusuive narrative of Hindu first, Hindi first, etc. Nehru had to make India pluralistic so that he could stitch together this country. Even Brits were surprised at South joining the country back then......

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u/HeWhoHasNoGun 21m ago

People act like India’s entire economic history depends on which PM occupied the chair. The real comparison is with China: it began market-oriented reforms in 1978, while India waited until 1991 to dismantle much of its licence-permit raj.

Nehru deserves criticism for excessive controls and protectionism lasting too long. But China’s rise wasn’t magic, and the Great Leap Forward was a catastrophic failure. Likewise, Modi’s record should be judged by actual outcomes—manufacturing jobs, productivity, exports and per-capita income—not hypothetical alternate history.

Only way Modi in 1947 would make difference if the policymaking was different, otherwise not much difference.

You can criticise Nehru’s policies without pretending Modi in 1947 would automatically have turned India into China. History isn’t a fan-fiction contest.

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u/Kings_move 3h ago

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u/Tall_Raspberry1992 29m ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/thecursedguy22 2h ago

This is Congress rule

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u/omkarzyt 3h ago

I don't think Nehru would got a chance

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u/Beautiful_Error_279 1h ago

We would have equal laws for everyone,

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u/Tall_Raspberry1992 29m ago

Except for muslims, except for dalits, except for women.

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u/Beautiful_Error_279 25m ago

That toh Already congress did, Separate laws for Muslims

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u/Ok-Self5412 1h ago

Modi in 1947 ....ye sab angrezo galti he mitron

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u/atom-forever 1h ago

Nineteen eighty four

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u/Charismatic_Evil_ 1h ago

We would be shit ass poor.

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u/sriram18981 1h ago

There won't be any POK or ceding Aksai Chin to China.

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u/srikondoji 1h ago

Modi would have made India worse than Somalia.

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u/Empty-Year-7563 1h ago

We could have been the poorest country on the planet with constant civil war inside the nation.

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u/ReferencePlane4751 55m ago

India would be like Pakistan or even worse.

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u/SmartReach2321 45m ago

BRICS KI SEAT BHI DEDETE CHICHA JAAN,,,,

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u/hardeep1singh 40m ago

All the states would've been small nations that hated each other.

Edit: Another thought, Sanghis would've begged the British to stay and we would still be a colony.

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u/Tall_Raspberry1992 30m ago

We would have been Hindu Pakistan or Hindu Afghanistan

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u/Mrsilent_boy 20m ago

I think Mr. Nehru will not get chance to get elected 🤣

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u/Agitated-Honey-1186 18m ago

If you f*kd your mom to give brith to your FATHER. How would your FATHER BEHAVE AS A SON???

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u/ImaginaryRock9865 16m ago

definitely much better than now, A lot of growth, maybe not a lot of freedom. (kinda like china)

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u/False_Preference_727 14m ago

There would be no India in the first place. Dunk on Nehru all you want but he 's the reason India stayed in one piece.

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u/thatotherredditlife 13m ago

Lmao Modi would have just sold off the country to British and the rich. Doubt he would be able to handle anything in 1947, (not that he's handling anything now)

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u/positive_9876 5m ago

Balkanisation

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u/Ancient-Pipe927 2m ago

India would be same as Pakistan or Afghanistan now. I mean they wanted Manusmriti to be as constitution of India. Nothing can be worse than that.

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u/Ok_Outcome_600 6h ago

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u/figuring-it-out-0 5h ago

Eyy chal chup chap pappu ka pappu muh me daal lavde...

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u/St_ElmosFire 4h ago

Tu tere maa ke choot se nikal toh jaa theek se. Phir baat karege.

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u/Muted_Payment7531 3h ago

india would become first largest exporter of beef if modi ruled in 1947 and population would also be maintained because caste-caste riots, minority riots. Nonetheless india would become unstable and failed democracy similar pakistan and even if nehru ruled from 2014 he can change something but not the image created during modi's rule

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u/No-Inevitable-2050 6h ago

Haa jaise, unfortunately 2015 mai modi ne pak ko pok dediya aur 2017 mai china ko aksai chin aur 2021 mai sri lanka ko katchatheevu island 😢😢 hai na lodu??

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u/PsychologicalYam3602 7h ago

Ba ha ha ha ... either you are a good jester or just plain stupid.

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u/VPSale 2h ago

We don't want socialism

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u/Minute-Apricot-7180 1h ago

India would have broken up instead of pakistan🤣🤣

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u/IcyAnything7161 1h ago

Would have been living in extreme orthodox society...with a few being super rich while others just surviving but overly religious...

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u/IGotU3000 34m ago

Look at Pakistan. It would have been worse than that

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u/Vegetable-Wave8967 7h ago

Nehru and Modi represent very different political eras and governing styles. I’d rather compare specific policies—education, industry, foreign affairs, social cohesion, and institutions—than assume either one could simply reproduce the other’s historical context.

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u/Big_Dig3586 5h ago

You or chat gpt

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u/Bliz_zy 3h ago

Where is the meme??

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u/Aarti22 3h ago

Our country is already a meme:)

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u/BreakfastSunMoon 2h ago

India would have become American colony like Pakistan is now. Nehru focused majorly on one thing that is to have a nation free from outside control during Cold War

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u/papachi789 1h ago

If Modi was the leader of India in 1947, then we wouldn't have survived to see 2014.