r/dalmatians • • Sep 03 '24

Backyard Breeders and How to Avoid

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A backyard* breeder is a person with little experience, breed and breeding knowledge and does not meet acceptable standards of care. More often than not, these people are focused on profit over animal welfare, quantity of puppies sold over genetic health, and often do not even provide proper veterinary care and puppy socialization. Below are some key indications that you may be dealing with a backyard breeder. ** Please note that there may be reputable breeders who operate form their homes. Having a backyard does not mean they are a backyard breeder.

1.      Breeding too early – Dogs should not be bred before the age of 2. Period.

 

2.      No prescreening of parents – Genetic testing is done by many reputable breeders. It is irresponsible to breed dogs with certain diseases. Not only does this hurt the integrity of the breed, but dogs with specific genetic diseases are more expensive to the owner in the long run. Reputable breeders will maintain contact and track health issues throughout the life of the dog and will refrain from breeding dogs with specific issues.

 

3.      No prescreening of prospective buyers – As mentioned above, backyard breeders only care about profits. This means that they will not screen the buyer to make sure they are a legitimate owner: ie not a dogfighter, another breeder, etc.

 

4.      No veterinarian records – Veterinarian records should accompany every dog. There are a series of vaccines that are needed (and often recommended or required by law). Owning a dog is like owning a child; it must be vaccinated to protect itself and others.

 

 

5.      No (or very short) waitlist – Backyard breeders often breed around the clock. This means no, or very short waitlist for a puppy. This means you can get a puppy in March, June, July, September, and again in January. This is dangerous for the mother and also indicates that the puppies are not being properly socialized and cared for.

 

6.      No visits to the kennel – A reputable breeder will always allow visitors to their space. In fact, they welcome it. You will be able to see more than enough space for the puppies to play, clean living conditions, clean dogs who are all able to interact and learn from each other. Backyard breeders are often the opposite and use aggressive training tactics to keep dogs and puppies in line. This results in skittish or aggressive dogs.

 

 

7.      Lack of expertise and experience – Backyard breeders often have no experience with the litter and with breeding as a general practice. If you ask questions regarding specific care for the breed, they should be able to give you specific answers.

 

8.      Emphasis on physical characteristics of the litter – Breeding for physical characteristics often results in dogs with physical or genetic abnormalities. This is problematic because it can lead to dogs with shorter lifespans and shorter quality of life. Think about deafness that are prevalent in this breed. According to research, blue-eyed females have a higher probability of siring deaf litters, so they should not be bred.

 

9.      Accidental litters - *In my opinion* responsible dog owners neuter their dogs when it’s age appropriate for many reasons. For me, that reason would be financially. I simply cannot afford a pregnant pup! Each litter a breeder has should be intentional. Additionally, breeders should be able to provide at least 2 generations of genetic detail on the current litter. Often times, a reputable breeder can provide much more!

 

10.  Lack of socialization – Any breeder worth her salt will make sure that puppies are appropriately socialized. Puppies should remain with their mother and litter for at least 8 weeks, but most veterinarians recommend 10 - 12 weeks. Puppies separated too early can have health issues and behavioral issues, as puppies learn from dog-dog interactions, develop socialization skills, and weening, which is

 

Questions to Ask:

[The Spruce Pets](www.thesprucepets.com) has a great sample list of questions to ask a breeder. You can add any of your own questions to this list. A reputable breeder will welcome being “interviewed” and asking well informed questions says a lot about you as a prospective buyer. I’ve posted them below:

  • What type of care is required for this specific breed?
  • Does the breed have specific needs I should be aware of? 
  • How long have you been breeding dogs?
  • How long have you bred this specific dog breed? 
  • Do you sell your dogs to pet stores, puppy brokers, wholesalers, or online? 
  • Can I visit the facilities where you breed and house your dogs? 
  • Can I meet the litter of puppies and their mother? 
  • What is the health and behavior history of this line (parents, grandparents, etc)? 
  • What genetic issues do you test the adult dogs for before breeding?
  • What tests do the puppies get before you sell them? 
  • Can I see the breed registration papers for the puppies and their parents? 
  • Can I see the veterinary records of the puppies and their parents? 
  • What happens if my dog is diagnosed with a hereditary disease?
  • Does the puppy I buy come with a guarantee? 
  • What happens if I can no longer keep my dog? 
  • Can you provide references from the owners of puppies from previous litters? 

r/dalmatians • • 17h ago

Photo/Video Trix and snoop

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r/dalmatians • • 23h ago

Happy 1st Birthday Shima girl

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She's a handful but a beautiful soul. We love her.


r/dalmatians • • 1d ago

Moo aka Marshall

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r/dalmatians • • 1d ago

Freddie at 8 months v 3 months

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r/dalmatians • • 4d ago

Photo/Video Spooky spots

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We had a spooky photo session trying on our new batwings. Our rescue is really settling into the model life!


r/dalmatians • • 4d ago

No regrets after almost breaking mom’s hand…

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Mom gets OT. Pup gets no game of tug. She 10/10 would rush out the door again


r/dalmatians • • 7d ago

A very sad day

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Lots the bestest boy in the world today, we are heartbroken.

Never again will we see that smiling face, never again will you boss us about when your dinner is 2 minutes late.

You were a good and a great friend and companion, mummy, daddy and your brother will miss you loads.Thank you Woody

Until we meet again x


r/dalmatians • • 7d ago

When did you start running with your dal?

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I’m thinking my 1yo boy would benefit from some more structured exercise. He’s unfortunately banned from off lead exercise for the foreseeable after blowing my recall off until we fix that, but I’d like to still fulfil his needs.

He’ll turn one at the beginning of November. I’ve avoided much running with him so far to protect his joints, but does anyone have any advice?


r/dalmatians • • 9d ago

A proper outfit for a proper guy 🤣

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r/dalmatians • • 9d ago

Halloween Costumes for Dalmatians

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I need ideas that will help me win the dog parks costume contest. Pictures are welcomed


r/dalmatians • • 10d ago

Photo/Video When you want to fight, but don’t want to get up…

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r/dalmatians • • 11d ago

Question/Advice Silly question/ but also serious

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On a semi-recent post I made, a member commented curious about tri colored dals, and another member commented saying Only non-ethical breeders produce tri- colored dals, and are down voting all my posts and comments ^^;

Is this true?

I only ask because I plan on getting my puppy dal another puppy dal friend from the same breeder (of course I wouldn't if I knew that it was unethical OFC) but I need help!

Some information about the place I got her from ;

I got her from a state that is an 8+ hour drive from here. She was originally selling for 1800 usd, but was marked down a lot due to her being a little older than her other dals (11 weeks old)

The breeders have an official AKC website, and Facebook / Instagram where the constantly post about their farm and how the puppies are being treated. They were constantly monitored, and also were tested and given shots

Additionally, they even offered to make the 8+ drive to us just to make sure she went to a good home, and still even checks in on Aspen (our dal) and likes the photos we post about her.

I added pictures of the condition we got Aspen in, and her now

She is a littl smaller I hear than average dals, but we assume she may have been the runt? (Unsure)


r/dalmatians • • 11d ago

SHOW ME THE SILLY PICS

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show me all your best silly dal pics! Ill go first!


r/dalmatians • • 11d ago

Photo/Video When the task requires zero dogs…

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r/dalmatians • • 11d ago

Question/Advice How to identify a qualified trainer

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How do you find a real/qualified trainer? We’ve tried two but they really didn’t seem to know how to work with an anxious Dalmation.

We’ve worked with him for 6 months (a rescue) and he’s great at home. However, we cannot take him on walks as he does not have any impulse control when on a leash and seeing other dogs. We need some help.

We are looking for legitimate professional help, even if he needs to stay with a trainer for a few weeks. How do you find such a trainer?


r/dalmatians • • 12d ago

Oreo

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r/dalmatians • • 12d ago

Let me draw the spots on your dals! Examples + their references below

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These read best when done on full body photos

I'm going to sleep soon, if I don't do many, that's why

Edit to say I promise I didn't abandon you guys, these take me much longer than you'd expect </3


r/dalmatians • • 13d ago

early Spot, always chill

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r/dalmatians • • 13d ago

Welcome home Burton💖

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I adopted this handsome young man from the county shelter Monday the 20th and honestly, I think we were the lucky ones🫶🏻

I knew right away, the moment I saw his sweet little face whilst browsing the local shelter, after sorta giving up my years long dream of ever being able to get my dream dog, And also being shamed by my boyfriend for wanting to buy from a breeder(I have kids, and was apprehensive about adopting though I did do a lot of research on dal specific rescues) There he was, on page 4 of the country shelters dog listings, the moment I saw his little eyes I could feel his sweet gentility radiating through the screen and into my heart. The next day I went down at open, and after spending just a brief few seconds with him I felt an amazing connection and he came home with me, and that was the best day of our lives🖤

We've only had him a short period of time but honestly it feels like he's always been meant for us.

He is so gentle and patient with my 7 year old twins, he loves kids in general (he does l walls the kids to the bus in the morning and gets super excited when we arrive and all the kids wanna come love on him. He gets such a spring in his step during our daily walks and it is one of the only times his tail is fully upward and wagging(like the whole time)

That being said, the shelter lady told me he had been surrendered, the day before I got him by a not so nice man, who she thought he was definitely afraid of, poor baby.

There was almost no information about him except that he was only 49lbs neutered male estimated age 4yrs only confirming a rabies shot. When I called the vet and set up his first appointment (coming up on the 5th) the last sounded shocked that, that was the only info they had for me. Honestly I was shocked by the decorum of this shelter, they asked me absolutely no questions about my past pet history, living situation, or if I had a vet picked out, absolutely nothing accept for the extremely cheap adoption fee. That being said, hopefully I don't come across as a broke irresponsible pretty hoarder😂 but I've never spoken to a shelter in my life that was this lax and literally throwing pets at anyone that wanted one. I will say the shelter was extremely full, they opened at 10:00am, I arrived at 10:20, waited in the longest line ever till about 10:35 and I'm that amount of time I saw like 8 dogs, and three boxes of 2 or more kittens all being brought in and surrendered(so sad, the dogs where all ages, some noticable terrified and shaking, honestly heartbreaking) I can not believe the sheer amount of animals that have been abandoned or "surrendered" in my area, I am soooooooo thankful I did not go to a breeder!!!

Anyways I'm waiting on his DNA test to see if he is mixed or pure, I've done extensive((EXTENSIVE)) research for the past several years about these dogs and the purines, and the crystals, and all the other things dals tend to be predisposed to(yet somehow I'm still worried I'll screw this up, I'm sure I'll feel better after I talk to the vet) but I was basically meaning to just pop in here for a moment and ask for

any tips or advice on feeding, treats(low purine toppers or kong treats), allergies?, what to ask the vet on this first visit???

The shelter sent him home with hills science diet for adults, I got him some royal canin, and have been asking Google all about low purine toppers and treats but I'd love to hear your favorite tried and true recipes🫶🏻

I have been using a slow feed dish for this meals, feeding the appropriate measured amounts as listed according to weight, morning and night(though he seems to get hungry mid day as well and was wondering if I should split his daily allotment into 3's? So far I've just been doing a stuffed Kong around lunch time.) he's also got a 7lt continual flowing water fountain dish.

As far as his condition, once adopted and In the van, whilst doing some pre drive home bonding I noticed all his sores, cuts, and visitable puncture wounds. This poor baby. So I got some hypochlorous acid solution for the open actively bleeding ones(the one on his nose is mostly healed now but he can irritate the scab and it will bleed a bit still) and there's this one on his neck that was open and actively bleeding for like 6 days(tired calling a few vets, no one could get us on sooner) so I've been nursing it as best as I can, send to finally be scabbing over, I'm just worried he will scratch it open again. For the hot spots Google told me to make him a coconut oil/shea butter balm witch had really been helping, a lot of the patches have, been on the mend and started to even regrow hair. I think he may have allergies or extremely dry skin(or both) so I've been using this balm all over his body like lotion, he seems to really love it, obviously I will ask the vet about all this but till then was wondering if anyone here may have had any advice or input?

Also, I plan to have a urinalysis done this visit as well to see where we're at with the bladder chrystals since I have no idea what the past person was feeding him or how many owners he has had, or if he spent anytime foraging on the streets. I definitely plan to ask about allergies, he had a severe reaction on Monday when the ragweed was high(his eyes were as red as a fire truck) and I think he is affected by fresh and freshly cut grass, and who knows what other crappy seasonal crap is in the air in the hellhole that is Bakersfield. I've been trying to wipe him down with a damp towel when he comes in from outside, starting with his eyes of course, but he absolutely is not a fan and squirms quite a bit. Send to be helping but again he doesn't like it, was wondering if any of you have and other suggestions? Or have any experience with dog allergies?

is there anything else I'm missing that is crucial to ask the vet about?

Lmk please, and thank you I'm advance for any tips.


r/dalmatians • • 14d ago

Today’s national fire pup day, October 1

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r/dalmatians • • 15d ago

His name is Spot

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r/dalmatians • • 14d ago

Question/Advice HUA vs LUA Dalmatian

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I lost my 11 year old pointer/lab mix in May and have really been struggling with the loss. We are considering getting a new puppy and I’ve always loved Dalmatians. The idea of getting one came initially from seeing a puppy at a local rescue. Before committing, I started doing research on their temperament health and longevity.

The biggest concern I have is HUA versus LUA. I’m a human who gets kidney stones so I know how painful they are and can’t imagine a poor pup going through it. Do any owners have advice of buying HUA versus LUA or how caring for an HUA Dalmatian, specifically male, might look different than a different type of dog? My research shows they need a low purine diet, access to hydration, and access to potty brakes. How strict on the diet do we need to be? Is an occasional treat OK or is it totally avoid? Cooper was allergic to poultry (funny since he was a bird dog), so we avoided it all costs. But low purine seems to be a bit more exclusive.

If you have an HUA male, have you had any experiences with stones? What preventative measures do you take? I saw you may consider having their urine tested regularly to check for crystals. Is this something you do?

Is there anything else I should consider? Any other advice on choosing a dalmatian as a breed? They are absolutely stunning and seem to have the cutest personalities.

Thanks for the time!


r/dalmatians • • 14d ago

Looking For Ethical LUA Breeders

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Hello everyone!

I am in search of an ethical breeder that produces LUA dalmatians. We are looking to add to our family in the next 3 years, maybe 2.

Willing to travel anywhere in the US

Max cost 3k

Parents must have OFA/Penn hip, BAER, and eyes tested.

Pups must be BAER tested.

Parents must have titles in sport or show as I plan on titling my dog in sports.

Early socialization protocols like "Puppy Culture"

I have one breeder on my list currently:

Chalet Dalmatians

I am not willing to have an HUA.

Thank you for the help.


r/dalmatians • • 16d ago

Dalmatians- age slower?

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I have a half dalmatian- the other half is lab/boxer (I’ll put a picture below to see how much dal she pulled)
Anyways, she is about to turn 10 years old and the girl isn’t slowing down at all.. still runs, jumps the height of our fence, can walk for hours, guards the house non stop etc etc
I don’t know anyone else with a large dog that still has this much zest at this age lol is it a dalmatian thing?!!