r/cringereels • • 16h ago

Self proclaimed evangelist gets kicked off of plane for annoying everyone, records her “persecution”

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u/Ormsfang 16h ago

Note to evangelicals. No, it isn't the message that makes people feel unsafe. It is the unhinged person refusing to shut up and ranting to a captured audience that can't walk away that makes people feel unsafe.

Can you imagine her reaction if she were on a plane and someone started preaching about Mohammed or Satan or Odin and she couldn't leave it get away from it? My guess is she would feel very unsafe.

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u/bbbourb 15h ago

This is the part they don't get. They want you to be thrilled to accept the love and joy of Jesus into your heart, but don't have the courtesy or RESPECT FOR OTHERS to shut the fuck up when they're told "not interested." They take THAT bit of rejection, usually polite at first, as a challenge because "Satan's got his influence on you an I'm gonna BREAK it!" No, you unevolved protein, I just know my scripture better than you and I don't need you disrupting everyone's life because you have a victim-complex borne of your complete misunderstanding of Christianity.

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u/Cardi_Ganz 14h ago

Unevolved protein is such a fantastic insult lol.

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u/bbbourb 13h ago

And somehow so very fitting. Please be sure to add it to your filing cabinet of insults for future use. 😂

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u/Faeruhn 12h ago

I read "unevolved protein" and immediately thought, "and that ones going into the library."

Just like when I heard, "Your brain could explode and it wouldn't even ruffle your hair" in a song.

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u/bbbourb 10h ago

One of my personal favorites, well TWO actually:

"You are an idiot every day of the week. Couldn't you take just ONE day off?"

"Listen here, you smooth-brained, last-gasp Habsburg..."

Bonus points if you can identify the source for either one.

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u/Faeruhn 10h ago

I know that first one was Stargate. (I think the speaker was Carter? It's been a while)

The second sounds familiar, but isn't coming to mind.

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u/bbbourb 10h ago

Second one is from a John Scalzi book called Starter Villain. It's spoken by a hyper-intelligent talking dolphin named "Who Gives a Shit."

Good book. Hilarious.

EDIT: Forgot to high-five you. Yes, the first one was Carter in Stargate. Episode was "Foothold."

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u/Faeruhn 10h ago

Ah, that's why that sounded familiar. A coworker was reading that and quoted it to me (though he didn't mention the dolphin was named "Who Gives a Shit"... that is hilarious.)

I'll have to look into that book later. (My coworker did recommend it to me, but I was reading a rather dense series at time and I guess I just forgot about it by the time I finished.)

Thanks!

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u/bbbourb 10h ago

It's quite good. Though to be honest, I've found just about EVERYTHING by Scalzi to be very entertaining. And the audiobook for Starter Villain is narrated by Wil Wheaton, so that's fun.

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u/CommandTacos 3h ago

I knew it as soon as I started reading the second sentence. Could picture and hear her saying it to Maybourne.

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u/DullahanShotFirst 12h ago

No, they just want pushback because then they can feed their persecution complex and get "confirmation" that they're a "true Christian."

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u/Otherwise-Ratio1332 2h ago

Exactly as she explicitly claimed in this video, she created the scenario that confirmed her belief. Similar to the Mormon missionary kids going door to door so they can bond over the unbelievers being mean to them.

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u/Educational_Quote851 12h ago

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u/bbbourb 12h ago

Always upvote a timely Monty Python reference.

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u/Apprehensive-Art1092 11h ago

They absolutely DO get it. This is performative assholery for clicks. This woman isn't an 'evangelist'. She's an attention seeking shithouse.

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u/NoChapter5131 11h ago

that's why they are unhinged, they think they are saving you from hell and you should kiss their feet out of gratitude.

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u/Illustrious_Unit7914 7h ago

I'd pay money to hear you say that to someone like this.

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u/Chronza 16h ago

Yea it’s the way that everyone is just forced to listen to her that makes this not ok. If it were out in public I’d just walk away and mind my business.

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u/mikefjr1300 15h ago

She needs a captive audience to force people to listen to her.

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u/Boring-Wolverine-947 12h ago

I don't know that I could keep my mouth shut and not get kicked off the plane too. Because people like her irk me something terrible. Jesus would be ashamed.

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u/Prestigious-Wolf8039 4h ago

I’d be kicked off with you. I really despise people like her.

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u/Disastrous_Towel3729 11h ago

No he would not. We are supposed to spread the good news.

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u/Specific_Hat3341 11h ago

If you spread the good news in a way that leaves everyone wondering what's so good about it, because they just find it annoying, you're not spreading it at all.

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u/Disastrous_Towel3729 11h ago

She did her best. Judge her all you want. Her Judge will offer a different verdict, I guarantee you

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u/AllPerspicacity 7h ago

Jesus instructed followers to share the gospel with those lost, searching actively for guidance, asking for the word. He did not say to pin people down & jam the "good word" down their throat like an adult toy, mate.

The New Testament is about offering succor to those seeking it. There is no instance where Christ forces a captive audience to listen to his sermons, instead he would go out to remote & quiet places & let the people come to him to hear his word. If we wanted instruction in your faith, we'd ask for it.

No one one a plane asked to be preached to & Christ would be mortified by her.

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u/SnooApples7213 7h ago

*did her worst

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u/Motor_Mission9070 10h ago

Exactly why others find it so off putting. It has nothing with trying to genuinely foster others to develop a love for Christ, it’s all about the Christian’s vanity to flex how much of a superior being they are for believing in the “right” God and to score points. It’s super self serving and narcissistic and actively pushes people away from religion, that’s why people are leaving the church in record numbers.

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u/ComradeVaughn 9h ago edited 9h ago

Her best at what? To look like a entitled schizo karen? The churches are emptying out faster then a dressing room of 13 year old girls when trump walks in is no ones fault but Christians. I mean, Christianity did not spread because they were exceptionally good people or moral, it's because it has been forced/indoctrinated or pushed through genocide on folks. Y'all are just mad no one is putting up with that crap anymore and you all cannot dictate your bullshit on people with a iron fist anymore. Into the trash where it belongs.

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u/Langholm62 9h ago

Self righteous much? Isn't that a sin?

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u/yourdismalfate 8h ago

Her fairy tale judge? Doubtful (because he doesn’t exist)

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u/ContractElegant4310 10h ago

LOL sure buddy

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u/Garod 12h ago

Especially when someone starts talking about "the end times" as if it's peoples last moments on earth just when they are sitting on board of an air plane.... yeah yikes.. also for filming crew and people without permission she's just probably given herself a life time ban...

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u/Faeruhn 12h ago

Exactly. My first thought when I heard that was, "Given our current location and the activity we are all about to be engaged in, that sounds like a threat."

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u/Langholm62 9h ago

Yep, preaching about the "end times" on a plane. Not very convincing

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u/Randomized9442 8h ago

Atrocious murder-suicide cult

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u/Ormsfang 16h ago

Exactly, thank you

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u/Demonshaker 15h ago

Agreed. The exact same thing would happen if you sat down incessantly telling everyone about your favorite recipe for Chicken non stop. It's her, not the religeon.

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u/StevInPitt 15h ago

It's the religion.
Specifically her Sect.
It encourages and fosters that behaviour.

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u/schu2470 8h ago

Specifically her Sect.

People forget that the "Evangelical" part of Evangelical Christian means they are called and mandated to evangelize to anyone and everyone they have the chance to. It's baked in and unfortunately her getting kicked off the plane will only strengthen her resolve.

It's the same reason Mormons send 18/19 year old kids with no life experience out on missions. They want them experience the hostility from people who don't want to be preached at so they strengthen their resolve and connection to their community because others "persecute" them for their beliefs. Sure, if they manage to snag a few converts that's great, but it's about making those in the community feel as though the only ones who understand and are good people are those in their same religion so they cling to it. Can't take a 10% tithe from an empty church.

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u/Prestigious-Wolf8039 4h ago

Nobody is “mandated” to listen. A captive audience is having their rights violated and the airline is protecting them. She’s lucky I wasn’t there. I would have used just the right words to make her extremely angry or start crying.

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u/ManateeMilkShake 4h ago

Cult in fact.

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u/citymousecountyhouse 11h ago

This makes me want to board a plane and yell "Have you all heard the good word about Chicken and Dumplings? Well, your about to, for the next three hours."

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u/Demonshaker 11h ago

"You gotta brine that shit bitches!!!!!"

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u/CorrectPanic694 15h ago

Wait wait wait it depends on the recipe.

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u/Demonshaker 15h ago

It's all about the brine. If you skip that the chicken never tastes as good.

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u/a10-brrrt 13h ago

Ok, I really want to hear your chicken recipe now.

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u/Mysterious_Damage_29 9h ago

I would be annoyed by constant chicken and dumplings talk, but the religious talk would make me feel uncomfortable and when the person is acting totally unhinged like this woman, unsafe. People like this are religious extremists no matter what their faith.

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u/jah_bro_ney 12h ago

It's also her religion. One of the main pillars of Christianity is "saving" non-believers from eternal damnation by forcing them to accept Jesus Christ as their personal lord and savior.

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u/Demonshaker 12h ago

The majority of Christians do not try to convert strangers on airplanes.

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u/jah_bro_ney 12h ago

I never said the majority of Christians behave like her, but she obviously wouldn't be preaching on the plane if the religion she followed didn't compel and command her to.

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u/Demonshaker 12h ago

I must have missed the "do this 24/7 regardless of if it is an appropriate setting or not" part of that scripture. My bad.

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u/timbocf 11h ago

Not forcing but saving, yes. We legitimately believe are in danger and we're trying to help them. That being said if someone acts like this, nobody is going to listen to them, and it defeats the purpose and makes us all sound like lunatics

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u/SexualCarrots 7h ago

You must all hate chicken soup! It's going to be a crime to eat chicken soup now! Where has this country gone?

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u/AnimalOrigin 16h ago

Excuse me, miss. Your religion is showing. Please put it back in your pants.

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u/RUN_DMT_ 15h ago

Religion is like a penis: it’s fine to have one, and it’s fine to be proud of it! But it’s not ok to whip it out in public or to shove it down unwilling people’s throats.

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u/ChronStamos 9h ago

And for the love of God keep it away from children.

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u/HHoaks 15h ago

Or talking about butterflies or economics. It's not a public speech forum. That's the issue. It's transportation. No one wants to hear her talk about anything, whether its babies, racoons or crypto currency.

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u/tacobellwendys 15h ago

Ok hold on there! I wouldn’t mind hearing just a lil bit about raccoons! If theirs no screens or internet in the plane, just saying.

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u/No_Leather_9623 13h ago

The message makes me feel unsafe. A god that demands worship or you burn eternal flames does nothing to make me feel safe. A terrorist is a terrorist

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u/Ormsfang 13h ago

Does that make God vain? Vanity is a sin. Can God be guilty of sin?

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u/Educational_Quote851 12h ago

"The lord thy God is a jealous God"

I'd say yes, but the NT glosses over all the awful things believers did for "god".

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u/KingJoe138 12h ago

Why would an all knowing all powerful God have to say that they are the only God and he’s a jealous God. If there wasn’t a God that was even cooler before him. God was scared of what was before him. Pretty Gnostic.

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u/timbocf 11h ago

Are you married? Would you let your wife lay in bed with another man? That's healthy jealousy

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u/No_Leather_9623 11h ago

Yeah I would trust my wife. If I didn't trust her why am I married to her? I feel sorry for your life that you're so insecure that you can't even trust the person you chose to spend your life wife

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u/timbocf 10h ago

Lol fine. It was a metaphor. And besides you're missing the point. If you didn't trust your wife you would still feel jealous. Because you love her. And you don't want her with anybody else. You can't imagine your life without her. Am I right? That's how God feels about you, my friend

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u/No_Leather_9623 8h ago

If I couldn't trust my wife I wouldn't be married to her.

Your example if I threaten my wife with setting her on fire if she dares to do anything I don't like. That's not a loving god, that's one that only device is terror. I'll gladly take the flames than worship a weak ass insecure god.

It's all a lie anyways

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u/timbocf 8h ago

I honestly hope you don't find out the truth behind that belief when it's too late to change your mind

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u/No_Leather_9623 13h ago

Rules for thee but not for me had to have started somewhere.

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u/Jumpy_Athlete_4073 13h ago

The Christian god is as evil as every other God.

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u/TuTenkahman 12h ago

All hail the Ori

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u/timbocf 11h ago

You misunderstand what God was saying. If He demanded worship we wouldn't have a choice. He would take our free will away and make us drones. Yet He doesn't do that. You have the ability to reject Him and talk bad about him on Reddit because He's a good God. If you were having a heart attack and refused medical attention, you have the ability to do that. If God wants to save you from something harmful, begging and pleading with you to take the free gift He gives, and you still refuse to take it, well... you made that choice, not Him.

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u/No_Leather_9623 8h ago

If I punch you in the face and you don't worship the ground I walk on it's your fault if I set you on fire.

In your world you blame the victim and not the person comitting the crimes. No thanks

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u/timbocf 8h ago

Somebody breaks the rules and rejects the person they're supposed to admire it doesn't make them the victim. It makes the other person the victim. So in your logic God's the victim not you

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u/Shane-Dad-underfire 9h ago

It would make this lady lose it if someone was praying in another language on the plane.

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u/Economy-Set-8667 7h ago

Bruh, that is Old Testament god. Probably why Jewish people don’t do much evangelizing

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u/Prestigious-Wolf8039 4h ago

Japan had the right idea. It’s abuse.

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u/theDefaultbunny 15h ago edited 11h ago

exactly - came here to say this. If someone was shouting about Allah, Jehovah, the Flying Spaghetti Monster (Peace be Upon his Noodley Appendages), the tenants of democratic socialism, they'd be kicked off, because SHOCKER! people don't feel safe flying in metal tube while someone shouts about their belief system at them in a confined space.

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u/Ransarot 5h ago

I’m an atheist, always have been. One night some guy started preaching atheism at me. I pretended to be super Christian because it irritated me so much.

Don’t preach your shit at people. Simple.

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u/B4tz_Bentzer 3h ago

I'm an atheist as well, but I refuse to associate myself with people who want to paint others as morons simply for their faith.

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u/Taychon2319 14h ago

Yeah. We already had religious fanatics yelling about their god on planes before and it turned out really bad.

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u/-TheycallmeThe 15h ago

She is talking spiritually "warfare" and end of days shit. Yeah people probably feeling unsafe for a reason.

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u/Nowhereman50 14h ago

One of these psychos cornered me while I was pumping gas once and I honestly thought he would fucking stab me or something if I didn't go along with his energetic rant about repentence. They really have no idea that they look like lunatics.

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u/DullahanShotFirst 12h ago

When I was about 14, I was in a campground restroom with my 9 year old brothers, and a man asked us if we had accepted Jesus Christ as our personal Lord and Savior. He broke the code of no talking at the urinal, the code of not pushing religion on other people's kids, and the code of not talking to other people's kids when they're alone in a public restroom. It was creepy as hell.

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u/Angelstandingby 2h ago

One of my mom's friends once cornered me during a party and talked about God for an hour.

I've known her my whole life(I was 20+ at the time) and never knew she was religious. She was the nicest lady, so I didn't want to cut her off. Just thought maybe she was drunk or something.

Sometimes they're just really weird and suddenly feel like preaching. I asked my mom afterwards and she told me that ya, she's really religious.

I've talked to her many times since and religion has never come up again.

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u/foreverandadayalone 15h ago

They wouldn't be evangelicals if they weren't already a little unhinged.

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u/davidfdm-at-work 15h ago

At least with Odin ale would be available and encouraged.

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u/Ormsfang 14h ago

For her sacrificed himself to himself to give us knowledge over the world and the runes so that we could read and write.

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u/gonesquatchin85 14h ago

Cristian extremist. I wouldn't feel safe flying with her. She's already in the mindset the world is ending.

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u/lntenseLlama 14h ago

It is the message that’s unsafe. Look what Christian nationalism has earned us in the US. They’re the real domestic terror operation…

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u/holden_mcg 15h ago

I completely agree. If you're behaving oddly, that immediately makes you a potential threat. And, for you religious fanatics, yes this is considered odd behavior by normal people.

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u/wordshavenomeanings 15h ago

What? You can't even go on a plane and ask people if they think you have any guns on you, that you are preparing for warfare.

What is the world coming to?

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u/squirtles_revenge 14h ago

Exactly. Ranting and raving regardless of topic (Jello, favorite musician, why your pet is such a tiny perfect baby) is concerning in the best of times. When you're trapped on a plane though? Fucking yikes.

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u/slumberpartymassacre 14h ago

Imagine if an atheist did this? The horror!

Oh wait, an atheist never would.

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u/Arch____Stanton 13h ago

It is just straight up being rude.
There is no defending that behaviour.

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u/Deatheturtle 14h ago

Actually it's also the message. Keep your fairy tales to yourself.

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u/BrokenBackENT 13h ago

Please someone tell me she is now on the no fly list.

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u/Xyldarrand 15h ago

No fuck that the message makes me feel unsafe. Follow my rules or you wind up in a lake of fire for eternity? Why would that make me feel safe? Why do I want some whack job putting that in my kid's head?

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u/Fantastic_Jury5977 14h ago

Exactly.

If I wanted to subject myself to indoctrinated psychos, i would join their church.

This behavior is antisocial and shouldn't be respected.

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u/titsmuhgeee 14h ago

Doesn't matter what you're going on about.

They won't put 100+ people in a sealed tube at 36,000' doing 600mph with anyone they even suspect is a liability to safety.

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u/Dear-Examination-507 13h ago

I think it's disingenuous to say it is about feeling "unsafe". I think that word is thrown around too much when people just feel "uncomfortable"

That said, I have no problem with her being kicked off the plane. You're allowed to exercise your first amendment right in public spaces (even to the point of making people uncomfortable), but this isn't a public space. Byeeeeee

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u/Wooden-Recording-693 13h ago

As it's on a plane the " flying" spaghetti monster would be cool.

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u/Plenty_Line2696 13h ago

safe is the wrong word, it's annoying but not unsafe. sticks and stones.

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u/Ormsfang 6h ago

Religious zealots have a long history of becoming unsafe very quickly

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u/0202_tihssitidder 12h ago

"So..." is always followed by the most dog shit statement (IRL and online).

Yes, they launch a logic fallacy, but just call it dog shit.

I love talking about all the gods. The minor ones and the major ones. I also like discussing their power rankings versus each other. Just do not deny the existence of all the gods.

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u/Etrigone 12h ago

My guess is she would feel very unsafe.

They freak out by just the presence of other religions & philosophies. Hell, even what they think you believe even if you otherwise keep to yourself.

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u/Uehara_Torless 12h ago

They thought she is fanatic

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u/timbocf 11h ago

Evangelical Christian here. I totally agree with you. There's a time and a place for this stuff and this ain't it. Free speech or not, she's abusing her right to it

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u/OkTeacher9655 11h ago

I did a project once called the Human Library where people act as human "books" to talk about a specific life experience or identity (I was a pagan book, while there were others who were formerly incarcerated, or talking about their experience being queer, etc) and I had a few people come up and try to talk about Jesus. It was kind of fun and kind of annoying because I was sitting there like "I don't even disbelieve in your god, I just don't worship him." and THAT seemed to piss them off more than just saying I don't believe in Christ LMAO.

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u/GrandmaPoses 11h ago

The message actually does make people feel unsafe, and if they do feel unsafe, the person speaking should wonder why that is. Instead, it's everyone else's fault.

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u/Megazord90 11h ago

It’s a form of harassment

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u/Tenton_12 10h ago

Seeing as how they're hoping the End Times will happen in their lifetime I would feel unsafe around any Evangelist

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u/RickSanchez_C137 9h ago

Shut up Flan-ders! clap clap clap-clap-clap

Shut up Flan-ders! clap clap clap-clap-clap

Shut up Flan-ders! clap clap clap-clap-clap

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u/isuckhips 9h ago

If she's just preaching religion, she's not hurting anyone. The safety thing was just a lame excuse since they don't want to admit she's just annoying.

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u/Ormsfang 5h ago

Continuing to bother people who can not escape you is harassment, and you are not free to harass people in the plane.

It is not public property, and they can kick you off the plane for any damn reason they want. There is no free speech on an aircraft

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u/isuckhips 5h ago

I ain't deny any of that. This a straw argument.

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u/Ormsfang 5h ago

If you want to stick to the safety argument here you have a religious zealot, potentially mentally disturbed person (won't shut up about religion and needs to get in your face about it) which can easily lead to them becoming violent. Not to mention that sooner people will only take so much before returning such behavior and escalating the situation. It is definitely creating an unsafe environment

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u/isuckhips 4h ago

That's an assumption. She's just yapping.

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u/Ormsfang 3h ago

It is not an assumption. This woman has a HISTORY of doing this.

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u/isuckhips 2h ago

You said her zealous attitude could lead to violence. That's an assumption.

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u/zusykses 8h ago

They already know that. Their intent is to provoke a reaction so they can play the victim and reinforce the persecution complex of other like-minded "christians". They're in a cult and this is how cults keep people from leaving.

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u/thewereotter 7h ago

I mean we don't even need a hypothetical, look how they react to having the Mormons or the Jehovah's Witnesses preaching to them

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u/Lost_Department_2177 7h ago

That’s a person affected with Russian propaganda. They’re brainwashed into psychosis by making everything yes or no. This causes the useful idiot to have performative meltdowns because they’re afraid of others in their cult.

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u/katzen_mutter 6h ago

I personally wouldn’t feel “unsafe“, probably jest annoyed.

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u/Sensitive_Noise9761 5h ago

'Render to Cesar what is Cesar's' lol.

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u/____-_______-_--_-_- 5h ago

But also it’s the message

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u/Fyrefly1981 4h ago

I’d just start telling her all the things Christians appropriated from other religions.

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u/CC_Panadero 15h ago

As an evangelical, I couldn’t agree with you more. The Bible does not encourage Christians to do this, it teaches against it.

This woman is not a God-fearing Christian, she is a Pharisee.

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u/careful_jon 14h ago

The Pharisees were an actual Jewish sect, it’s not just synonymous with “heretic” or something. I think it’s unlikely that this lady is especially interested in the preservation of the laws of the Jewish oral tradition . . .

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u/Feeling-Shelter3583 13h ago

Let’s be real. If she was preaching about Mohammed, she would’ve been tackled by the air Marshalls pronto. But Christians are being persecuted… /s

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u/Longjumping-Fig-7481 13h ago

You only put that /s there so you wouldn't be trapped and persecuted.../s lol

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u/Ormsfang 6h ago

Agree

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u/definitelynotapastor 16h ago

She seemed to have an attitude, I'll give you that. But id like to see the lead up?

I'd be frustrated too if I were made to exit for talking about Jesus. If I have to sit in public and "deal" with f-bombs every 10 seconds, I think its not that different for ya'll to ignore scary preacher man.

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u/Ormsfang 16h ago

You are not welcome to peach to a captive audience in an airplane that can't get away from your rantings. No one, and I mean no one's wants your religion pushed in their face against their will.

It doesn't convert anyone and only pushes people away since no one wants to be associated with assholes that do that.

From a Christian perspective Jesus had a few things to say to people who grandstand in places like this

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u/StevInPitt 15h ago

Conversion is not the goal of proselytization.
Reinforcement of the cult in-group is the goal.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exchristian/comments/1j2krct/something_just_clicked_about_christian_proselytism/

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u/WillemDafoesHugeCock 15h ago

Are you under the impression someone disrupting a flight by yelling the word "fuck" over and over wouldn't be asked to leave? Because they absolutely would, lol.

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u/Viker2000 15h ago

A guy behind me by a few rows started shouting a few profanities after we were in the air. I thought there was going to be big trouble about it. Turned out he had spilled a full cup of hot coffee on himself.

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u/TMN8R 16h ago

Would you feel comfortable and safe with a lecture on Satanism while seated on a plane? 

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u/PsychiatricBooth5c 15h ago

People get kicked off planes for obscenity.

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u/Ok_Alps4323 15h ago

You talking about Jesus to me is just as uncomfortable as you talking to me about your vaginal discharge on a plane. I’m not interested in joining your cult. It’s not harmless. You are not entitled to force your words and opinions on anyone on the plane. If you think of your Jesus as being akin to vaginal discharge to many of us, it might help you understand why she was thrown off the plane.