r/cringereels • • 15h ago

Choreographer & Performance Artist

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u/TumbleweedNo4678 14h ago

I've seen this thing where people paid to fill a stadium to watch dudes throw a rubber ball into a metal ring. They did it over and over again and everybody got all excited about it.

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u/Shane-Dad-underfire 14h ago

I get your point, people can be entertained in any number of ways.

I'm personally against professional athletes making millions a year for doing what they used to do for free and with more passion.

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u/TaiStreetsAhead 11h ago

So are you against professional sports existing at all or do you think the owners should make all the money and the players should play for peanuts? Because personally, I've never paid $200 to sit in an arena and watch Mat Ishbia brick jumpshots.

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u/Shane-Dad-underfire 11h ago

I think the pay shouldnt be as lucrative and that the revenue should be funneled back into the cities that support the teams. You know that many cities invest heavily into supporting teams by offering incentives and such. It would be nice if that high level of profits went back into the cities to help fund sports programs, help the low income families that spend their last 20 dollars buying a hat with their teams logo for their child's christmas gift, building infrastructure and the like.

I'm by no means a communist or socialist, I just believe that greed for oneself only breeds contempt. I take 10% of the profits for each of my businesses to pocket, 20% is reinvested and the rest is put into profit sharing and bonuses. This is a sustainable business model that rewards the workers for their hard work and dedication.

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u/TaiStreetsAhead 10h ago

Are you advocating for keeping ticket and concession prices just as high to generate the same amount of revenue teams currently gain? Or are you saying the prices should be lowered as well as the player salaries?

Also, I assume you mean profit and not revenue.

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u/Shane-Dad-underfire 10h ago

That's more of a toss, every business knows that if people are willing to pay then that's what you should charge. If people paying 11 dollars for a 30 cent hotdog see it as a charitable donation to their city then all the better. They say a fool and their money soon part. As for ticket prices if I were to have one change it's that once every few years free tickets are distributed to folks so they can attend once. Either that or schedule extra exhibition games each year and allow free entry.

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u/TaiStreetsAhead 10h ago

every business knows that if people are willing to pay then that's what you should charge.

...except professional athletes though, right?

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u/Shane-Dad-underfire 9h ago

Yes, you have to be realistic. CEOs that manage tens of thousands of employees arent walking away with 100mil after 8 years. You can keep playing the "oh wont someone please think of these poor professional athletes" but it's not a song I'm going to dance to.

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u/Own_Butterscotch_129 cřingè papa 14h ago

Not everybody

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u/TumbleweedNo4678 13h ago

I'm not really trying to bash on basketball or people that enjoy sports. I'm just pointing out that what we enjoy is all relative. I know people that hate sports and people that love it. But who cares- let them enjoy it. As far as performance art and art in general I will say the goal is sometimes to combine things in new ways to create a visual or experience that is completely unique. A classic example is Marcel Duchamp's Bicycle Wheel that is at MOMA. It's just two ordinary things stuck together in a new way and to my eyes- it is fun and interesting and forces us to question what art really is. But in the end, most great things that we enjoy and are entertained by are derived from a creator who thought about trying something new.

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u/LiveMarionberry3694 14h ago

Well one thing takes a high level of skill and years of dedication

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u/Shane-Dad-underfire 13h ago

So does high pressure welding, being a surgeon, pilot, watch maker, and dozens if not hundreds of other more necessary careers.

Someone plays baseball for 6 years of school goes pro starts making 30k a game couple years later they are making 600k a game. There are thousands of other people who have necessary skills and dedication and help the world function that even 30k a month of 6 day a week 14hr days would be more appropriate.

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u/LiveMarionberry3694 13h ago

Cool, but we’re talking about skilled positions that people enjoy watching. It’s the combination of both things that sports has.

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u/Shane-Dad-underfire 13h ago

As we scroll reddit watching people do the dumbest shit or watch people watching the dumbest shit...

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u/LiveMarionberry3694 13h ago

I’m not really paying anything extra or going out of my way to do so. You keep missing these nuances

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u/Shane-Dad-underfire 13h ago

Folks are making money off this though, just like folks do on youtube and tictoc and sports. You think the athletes pay comes from the seat sales? Television, radio, sponsorship ads, cameos and endorsements, selling merch etc.

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u/LiveMarionberry3694 13h ago

Again, I’m not paying anything extra or going out of my way. That’s the difference