The downvotes are incoming for us both. But you know how it is with specific people. If a certain someone does something then they say it's because of their race. If another group does it then they're an individual and all you'll see is jokes. It's a lot easier to deal with when you realize that there is a culture of narcissism and double standards involved.
Real question - do you notice that you two are the only people to bring up race? Whatsoever? Even in the deleted comments, I donât see a single person saying it.. itâs just you two. And that feels strategic, almost like a bot posting trying to cause trouble for no reason.
Thatâs the only thing that makes sense to me - someone trying to bait people into a silly discussion that isnât even taking place..
Wow, just checked. These two are literally the only two people to bring up race. One comment about a hillbilly but other than that, its just these two comments.
The point is why are they even talking about it to begin with it's just a video of some crazy ex breaking a window. When I watched this video, I didn't once think of anyone's race who was involved because it doesn't matter. Then I go to the comments and see "if the races were reversed blah blah blah". Huh?? Yeah, there's racist ass holes out there that say racist shit, what about it? This specific video has nothing to do with it but some people think about it nonstop it's crazy.
The observation would obviously be how the comment sections go depending on the race of the criminal. Thatâs pretty easily verifiable if your head isnât in the sand. U know itâs true, but choose to gaslight instead of face reality.
Who is disagreeing with this? Literally nobody is. Do you understand the difference between hypothetical and actual observation is? Save that observation for the cases where ITS ACTUALLY OBSERVED! ITS NOT THAT DIFFICULT.
When you come into an entirely innocent situation and start spewing more of that racial bullshit all it does is cause MORE racial bullshit. Itâs a self fulfilling prophecy! Itâs what bots do.
Absolutely caught it out when you see it. Thatâs necessary. BUT interrupting a discussion and commentary on a video that has literally NOTHING to do with race in the subject matter of the video nor in a single comment, if you start bringing up race for no reason, youre the PROBLEM. Youâre the person perpetuating this bullshit that is dividing everybody. Iâm not saying that true racist that actually do this shit are forgiven or should be ignored, but there is absolutely a facet of this situation that is manipulated by bad faith actors.
To summarize - Again - literally nobody said racism doesnât exist. Absolutely nobody. And nobody is saying that Reddit comment threads canât turn into racist bullshit because they seriously can and itâs disgusting but in this specific thread with this specific context, it had absolutely no place
Theyâre saying itâs not being brought up in this post because of race. They are bringing up race on purpose for people to think about the discrepancy in post where the reverse happens. And they are doing so because there is an ever increasing amount of blatantly racist people in the other posts. They want a racial conversion to happen in these cases just as much as the other so people can clearly see their cognitive dissonance and stop doing it in general. Them not saying anything will not stop racist from pulling up to the opposite situation and especially doing marketing to other people about why we should dehumanize people.
Honestly I'm not sure about how much of this is driven by bot traffic. Not to say that there isnt a bunch of racist shitheads out there - they definitely exist and love spreading that bullshit hiding safely behind their screens. Keep at it if you can, I think its important to call out this stuff and bring attention to it.
Some of it is. Some of it isn't. However, talking about bots, as if the mentality in question didn't exist before bots, is a convenient excuse and I don't like to give them an inch. They're expert gaslighters. You give them any way to deflect and they're going to run with it.
Edit: Thatâs also why I don't bother arguing with them or acknowledging their comments. Gaslighter Mode is immediately activated as soon as you call the behavior out.
Go ahead and call it out when the behavior exists. Donât turn every single hypothetical scenario into a chance of grandstand while the rest of us are just out here living.
Itâs hardly surprising that you immediately jump to the next victim card, which is now âstop gaslighting me!!â
However, talking about bots, as if the mentality in question didn't exist before bots, is a convenient excuse and I don't like to give them an inch.
Acknowledging the reality that other governments purposely try to use social media to stir up racial hatred in america and online broadly (and I guess you could argue the current US government is also cool with this because Musk loves imthat type of stuff) isn't an excuse for anything and i am not really sure why you'd frame it like that. Especially considering I highlighted that those attitudes absolutely exist.
Edit: Thatâs also why I don't bother arguing with them or acknowledging their comments. Gaslighter Mode is immediately activated as soon as you call the behavior out.
Yeah, I usually don't respond but im having too much fun making fun of these clowns and I got nothing better to do
Because they use it as an excuse to say that it's mostly bots and this isn't a real problem. Or that it isn't many people when, yes, it is. I don't believe in giving them plausible deniability at all because we would still see the same types of comments if bots never existed. There would just be less comments. I'm old enough to remember, that's all.
Lol well I hope you're having fun. I already know that people are getting mad. I haven't read any of the comments, but Iâm sure they include a few variations of the Gaslighter Mode greatest hit âNobody is talking about race except for youâ. As if that isn't the point.
I apologize, I thought you were indicating that I was trying to excuse their racism. Misunderstood what you were communicating
Its getting a little boring now because they just repeat the same arguments over and over again. As soon as you catch them in a trap, they pretend it didnt happen or stop responding completely. I figure at a minimum, its wasting their time so they are harrassing me rather than other people
Let me guess, theyâre saying it isnât about race or that youâre bringing up a hypothetical. As if we donât see it everyday. Then, if you post a screenshot or a link to other posts and the comments there, they come up with some excuse. Whether that be saying itâs just one comment, knowing that youâre not going to waste your time posting every single similar comment, or blaming bots. When they run out of excuses, they stop responding and probably go find someone else to gaslight, right?
Yeah, thatâs why I donât acknowledge them lol.
Haha, you're talking like you've been in this spot before !
I think you got it basically right. The only thing you missed is they ask for an example, you provide the example and then they say because it didnt include a racial insult or specifically mention a race, theres no way it could be racist.
Yeah, thatâs absolutely gross and said by someone who likely breathes through their mouth.
I canât help it noticeâŚ.It was said well after your post and another post made it racial.
Almost as if it is⌠letâs say it again, class⌠RACE BAITING! Which is something I called out yesterday and sincerely asked. Itâs unfortunate, but itâs very much a thing for there to be bots that solely exist to take and post things similar to yours.
If that guy had posted that bullshit racist ass garbage and then you said your post, there would be zero issue here. Your post would be warranted. It would be understandable.. and it would be frankly the only decent thing to say to someone like that.
But instead, Iâm seeing a dumbass racist respond directly to a race baiting Post made out of nowhere.
The overall point is youâve gotta just let people watching and enjoy videos without making every single thing about race 24/7. I realize I said that from a position of privilege, but I am just so tired of seeing the same fucking arguments and discussion over and over and over and over and over
And over and over and over and over and over and over and over
I didn't say there was racism in this thread, try to keep up little gup. There has been though and whenever I post a link to it, people like you will say "that isnt racist" so it doesnt really matter if there is or not. You'll pretend it doesnt exist eitherway
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u/Saraneth1127 1d ago
The downvotes are incoming for us both. But you know how it is with specific people. If a certain someone does something then they say it's because of their race. If another group does it then they're an individual and all you'll see is jokes. It's a lot easier to deal with when you realize that there is a culture of narcissism and double standards involved.