r/countwithchickenlady • u/AppearanceAlert4987 I wanna grow boobs(masc identifying he/they MtNB) - Streak: 4 • 7d ago
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u/crec4et 7d ago
I guess I'll gauge the reaction from the sub to the post first, but yeah. Theres's at least three separate red flags in that "trend"
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u/Apollo989 7d ago
The first being the name. I'm not a fan of incel terms.
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u/SnooDonkeys6840 7d ago
Galfoy was right there too
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u/Wilsonrolandc 7d ago
Or Drako, given that genderbent versions of japanese characters add the syllable -ko to names.
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u/LoamyLoamisLoamy 7d ago
And it especially fits for Draco because -ko is now considered old fashioned. It started declining in the '80s.
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u/Mascian12 7d ago
Or the way cooler sounding Dracaena Malfoy instead of Draco Malfoy if we're making him a gal
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u/porn_alt_987654321 7d ago
As with many incel terms, if has been bludgeoned to death by non-incels due to the incel definition being insane and the word itself being funny.
It's something to sideeye someone over, because it might be an indicator of an issue, but isn't a definitive indicator.
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u/Grand_Protector_Dark 7d ago
As with many incel terms, if has been bludgeoned to death by non-incels due to the incel definition being insane and the word itself being funny
The exact same sanding down of an otherwise right wing term already happened recently with "chud". "chad" and "Gigachad" are another example that went through a complete inversion from how incels used it.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised of a good chunk of people repeat that name without thinking about its actual meaning
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u/The_MadMage_Halaster 7d ago
"Chud" actually originated, weirdly enough, from the 1982 movie C.H.U.D. and means "cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers." From there it entered slang meaning "gross or unappealing" person, often synonymous with "frat bro" or the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons. It's kind of funny looking at older media where this crops up, like the old Steve Jackson Games card game Chez Geek that uses this definition in the user manual to describe the players.
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u/fluthlu413 7d ago
I think this is the first time ive seen normies use it completely unaware of its origin, though
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u/emPtysp4ce 7d ago
Second time. "Based" has similar origins.
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u/Frixi_Infernal 7d ago
Based is old California slang from the 70s/80s that was popularized by Lil B the Based God in the 2000s. It's not incel slang its slang coopted by incels.
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u/NoCommander26 she / him 7d ago
I remember seeing the post that came up with the name , and they seemed well intentioned , but still it's weird
Also a shame most people headcanon her as a cis genderswap and not trans that's a massive missed opportunity
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u/Electrical_Rabbit_88 7d ago
It's also weird to me that for a gender-swapped character, they change the surname and not the given name.
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u/the_Real_Romak 7d ago
People rarely if ever call Draco by his given name. Even in universe he's only ever referred to as "Malfoy"
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u/Drow_Femboy 7d ago
Pretty common IRL for people to only ever go by their last name or a nickname based on their last name. Extraordinarily weird to "genderswap" a character's last name.
Draco calls Harry by his last name, too, and you wouldn't see people genderswapping Harry and naming him Harry Bitcher
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u/Electrical_Rabbit_88 7d ago
Ah, ok. I never read the books other than the first one a long, long time ago, so I didn't remember that. Thank you.
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u/the_Real_Romak 7d ago
that's fair. I found it weird as well initially when I was a child, but I guess it's a British thing to refer to each other by their surnames if you're not bosom buddies. happens a lot in British media I've seen.
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u/3--20characters 7d ago
It's definitely more of a thing from the past and/or for boarding/private/posh schools, regular public schools just use first names these days
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u/Moblam 7d ago
It's old, but also Draco refers to Harry often by just "Potter" aswell from what i remember. It fits narratively for him to be refered to like that. Also i think both his parents aren't that important actually overall so there is only one Malfoy really.
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u/EmpressClaraB 7d ago
Just not an unusually thing. had a number of friends in life whose common name / nickname was their surname or some variation on their surname
Happens most often with people with super common first names like Dan, Jack etc
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u/CaleanKnight 7d ago
Not just british... it also happens when you have several people with the same name in class, then it was either a Nickname or just the last Name or a variation thereof.
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u/Bigbigbigrock Born to bot, forced to boy 7d ago
I assume it's for the same reason the Japanese do it, you earn given names by being close. You're your family first, and if you get to know each other well, then you become you yourself, or some such like that.
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u/the_Real_Romak 7d ago
I can't really say tbh. I think it's a holdover from a time where formality and "being proper" were the norms (remember the books were written during the mid to late 90's ending in the naughties). Like how you would address a stranger as "Mr Surname" or some such.
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u/arsapeek 7d ago
well intentioned or not they're still pushing a sexist term. Like I'm not going to jump on a trend because it's got a "pithy" name like Malcunt or something.
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u/crec4et 7d ago
For me, first is it being based off a series about a nepo baby, written by a horrible bigot, attention to which brings money to that bigot. Second is the large majority of "content" being about how aforementioned nepo baby "gets" and/or "fixes" a titular girl/woman. And then third, yeah, it being named after an incel term.
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u/AcornTear 7d ago
Meme that used a misogynistic slur that supports a franchise that's basically only used to go after vulnerable people. It's so insidious it almost seems engineered lol
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u/NervousLaw9241 7d ago
Combo so devious that they could have only gotten the idea from Benjamin Netanyahu
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u/Sfizion 7d ago
I'm glad to have never liked it or gooned to Harry Potter even before I knew about Rowling being a transphobe lobbyist
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u/NoCommander26 she / him 7d ago
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u/Sfizion 7d ago
It's ethical gooning. Real though I always preferred anime and saw 2 films when I was young, I thought it was boring.
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u/NoCommander26 she / him 7d ago
No my problem is not what it is my problem is why the fuck did you feel the need to mention it ???? 😭
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u/Antique_Director_689 7d ago
Putting aside the fact that this sub ebbs and flows between horny central and adjacent, the topic being debated here is a gooner meme taking the internet by storm. Mentioning ones participation or lack thereof isn't that crazy
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u/Soft_Self_6797 7d ago
Same here. I watched the movies as a kid but always felt they were mid. I never understood everyone's obsession over it.
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u/GimmeSomeSugar 7d ago
Marketing.
It's sold to us as a feel good story that Joanne lived on social benefits while raising 2 kids to give her time to write. And that a string of publishers passed on her books until one "saw their value".
I think it's more realistic that she prioritised chasing her dreams over being a responsible parent and eventually got lucky with a publisher who thought that they found something to fill a gap in their line-up. And that they could hook fans in early by marketing the shit out of it, and engineer a fanbase that would last for years and keep spending.
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u/Kyleometers 7d ago
They also got SUPER lucky with the movies. Without the movie deal, I don’t see it ever reaching the level it did.
They aggressively merchandised it as soon as they could, but I’m trying to think of any other book series that don’t have some form of visual adaptation that sells the merch for them.
They could just as easily have gotten Percy Jackson-ed, where the live action version wasn’t as good as people hoped, and wasn’t able to keep it going as long.
I remember the build up for the first movie. They had Coke running cross-promotions to get that shit everywhere.
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u/MsScientist208 7d ago
A lot of people gravitate towards popular media because of the social benefits. If you like something (almost) everyone else likes, it's easier to make friends. That's my idea, anyway.
Edit: and to keep those friends too. Don't know what to get as a gift? Just buy some merchandise!
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u/Wonderful_Emu_6483 7d ago
Same here I just never got into it. My friend who is like, as ally as possible, pro-LGBTQIA, vegan, environmentalist, everything etc. really struggled to grapple with the fact that the author of her favorite books and movies is a rabid transphobe. Even though JK has been out about her hatred for several years my friend still bought that Harry Potter game that came out a few years ago. I think she’s now like the “if it’s JK Rowling IP I’m not buying it” mentality but it took a while to get there.
I get it, it’s hard when something comforts you gets ripped from you.
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u/JustFuckinTossMe 7d ago
I get your friend, we're similar in lots of ways from what you described. I'm also part of the LGBTQ+ and not just a supporter. I left the books behind easier than I've left the movies behind. The movies aren't all JKR's doing or right to claim. The actors, like the main 3 and beyond, were phenomenal at creating magic on the screen with their own talent and presence. The biggest thing I hold onto though is the music. HP music is genuinely beautifully orchestrated and deserves to stand on its own leg of magical whimsy. I'm pretty sure she had NOTHING to do with its composure, she just approved of things.
So while I can leave the franchise behind, I won't let her take ownership of certain parts of it that she didn't even create. I know many of the cast and crew dislike JKR and several of the actors have come out in disapproval of her openly. That set and those years were like, their entire family and you can feel the love for how they're representing the shitty lines come through in the movies. I would HIGHLY support the actors, sound design, orchestra, makeup/costume, setting and set design teams, etc to come together and make us something new that was magical AND unattached to JKR. Some of the actors have passed, but I could see a future where they kind of take back their efforts and time and memories away from JKR's grubby grasps and let those nostalgic whimsical things exist in an accepting and safe space.
It does suck a lot to have something you felt so formative turn out to be so heinous at the creator's core. I used to watch the movies yearly around the holidays, especially because I hate Christmas and never got to participate. So this was like my ONE little tradition I had up until my mid 20s. I just hate her so much for taking these little pockets of safety and spoiling them for us all.
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u/Wonderful_Emu_6483 7d ago
I agree, I have nothing against the actors, the film score is pretty good even though I’m not a fan of the movies. If you own the movies, sure keep watching them. But I wouldn’t be streaming them because she’s still going to get residuals from it. But my issue is when a new thing comes out and you’re still running and buying it.
There’s always the “separate the art from the artist” type argument, but for me that’s moot when the artist is still alive and profiting off their art. Lots of artists are regarded for being genius while also being terrible, but they’re dead now. JKR is still alive and well, and using her vast wealth from her IP to lobby against and harm transfolk. Then when something goes in her favor she posts about it on Instagram from a yacht holding a cigar and a cocktail. Like she is truly villain-level evil. She doesn’t deserve a single penny.
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u/Ysmildr 7d ago
I was bullied in school for "looking like Harry potter"
i just wore glasses.
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u/MsScientist208 7d ago edited 7d ago
Gooned to it? Dear gods. Those are children. I mean, unless you're masturbating to Death Eaters/teachers. 😭
Edit: They specifically said they didn't. Quite honestly, I was blown away that people would goon to that. Then again, rule 34.
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u/Alderan922 7d ago
Tbf, the odds that they would had been teenagers during that era (pre Rowling twitter drama) makes it make more sense
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u/JohnGlorbus 7d ago
True, I thought they were mid when they forced me to read them in elementary school, I tried to read again them a few years later and they are really not that good
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u/Kyleometers 7d ago
They’re ok if you’re like 8 when you read them and you read them spaced apart enough that you don’t notice the massive plot holes between each book, and you’re not aware enough to realise a lot of the messaging is ham fisted at best.
They’re not horrendous. I’ve read a lot worse. But JKR herself is why I don’t want any of my relatives to read them.
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u/Bloodglas 7d ago
It's like how many people credit the series as getting so many kids into reading as some kind of flex. Those kids thought it's great but they had read nothing else to compare it to.
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u/MsScientist208 7d ago
I hate Harry Pooter. Daniel Radcliffe is cool though.
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u/Gareth_II Streak: like a billion i promise 7d ago
daniel and emma are fantastic. they've actively spoken out in support of trans rights, directly opposing joanne and her vile bullshit
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u/Ill_Emphasis3927 7d ago
I once got my wife to watch Guns Akimbo by selling it with Daniel Radcliffe. She will no longer watch movies I suggest without knowing the synopsis because of that. She fuckin' hated Guns Akimbo and I can't be trusted to pick movies any longer. 😂
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u/TH31R0NHAND 7d ago
Definitely show her Swiss army man. She'll ask for a divorce
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u/Casexcasey getting there - Streak: 26 7d ago
I haven't seen Swiss Army Man, but I've heard it elevator pitched as "I've never felt so moved by a movie with that much farting in it."
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u/Ravenqueer077 Very homosexual T-girl 7d ago
Guns Akimbo was so fun and loosing film choosing privileges is something I'm very familiar with my gf hates many movies I choose
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u/_Scoops- 7d ago edited 7d ago
I wrote a nice little allegory about this to help my cis friend's understand. Maybe you all will find it useful too 🤍:
Imagine you're in high school and being bullied, in particular by someone named Jo.
Jo gets an absolute thrill out of bullying you, and is smart and wealthy enough to keep their hands clean while doing it. Jo usually limits their direct abuse to insults, while spending a good share of their wealth to spread rumors about you, rally others against you, and fund a club whose whole purpose is getting you shut out of school life.
And it works. Kids who never cared about you before now shove you in the hallway, mock you in class, and petition to keep you out of the locker room and the school dance. Jo never lays a finger on you. Jo doesn't have to.
Jo doesn't just have your classmates against you, they have half the people in the town against you.
As far as anyone can tell, there is no good reason Jo hates you. Jo says you're dangerous, but you've never hurt anyone. Jo says you're lying about who you are, but you've been the same person all along.
So how does Jo have so much money?
Jo's family runs a very popular soda shop that sells all the classics: floats, ice cream, good burgers, salted fries, the works. You've eaten there yourself once, and genuinely, it's good, really good. It blows the competition away. Jo's parents know that their child's popularity brings a lot of traffic to the shop, so they've worked out a deal in which Jo gets a small cut of every purchase made there.
Everyone in town knows this. Jo has never hidden where the money goes. Jo talks about it proudly.
The most frustrating part isn't Jo, though. It's the people you call friends and family. People who say they are on your side.
After school or at dinner time, friends and family often suggest going out to the soda shop. You've sat there and watched your own mother order a float. They know the money will go into hurting you, but when you point this out, you often get responses like: "Well, you need to learn to separate Jo's job from what they do," or "Everyone else is eating there, and they already have lots of money, so it's not like it matters."
Maybe they're right that one float won't make a difference. But it's never just one float. It's every after-school trip, every extra person invited who wouldn't have, every "it's not like it matters." And every time, you're sitting there, watching your mother drink her float.
You're not asking them to confront Jo, or give up burgers, or start a boycott. You're just asking them to eat somewhere else, and it's hard not to hear what they're really responding: that you matter, just not more than a float.
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u/Bug_exceptIRL 7d ago
It is a perfect allegory thank you. People to whom I talk about this issue are often very disconnected from the reality of where the money comes from, and where it goes. So this may works nicely for them, in a more "Mom and Pop" way. Thanks !
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u/Some_Gur1061 7d ago
This is a great way to frame it! Though my sleepy ass definitely thought you said “watched your own mother murder a float.”
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u/SRVN_MRVN 7d ago
I swear it's an astroterf campaign in some way, I've seen it on so many unrelated subs including but not limited to, animememes, comics, manga_manhua, brandnewsentance. It HAS to be some kind of operation to get the series back into the forefront of pop culture before the "new" (stale) series come out. I said something similar a couple weeks ago to my boyfriend and he was like "eh idk it is a popular series". Then a couple days ago he goes "someone has got to be paying for these posts I saw one on a GoT subtreddit..." It's so fuckin infuriating seeing this bullshit genderswapped bigot, from a series that is full of awful predjudice getting loads of love all because "when a girl is mean it's hot" or "wow she's tsundere". Meanwhile every piece of exposure that is given to this series is another fucking nail in the coffin for trans people (especially in the UK).
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u/ScrivenerTithes 7d ago
wb has been shoving tons money for months into marketing for hp in general in build up to the new series, whether or not the current trend is directly being paid for by them, or is just a cultural response to the flood of money and size of the campaign, seems incidental in that neither would be happening without the new marketing campaign
and the point of guerilla marketing is to be indistinguishable from "organic" word of mouth/virality, so
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u/scrapy_the_scrap cargo grungler 7d ago
its a hot bratty racist blond girl, ofc itll be a trend
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u/King_Chochacho 7d ago
Right? How many versions of this savior complex bullshit do the incels need?
Mean girl falls for the quiet nerd
Disfigured girl falls for the quiet nerd
Scarred amazon girl falls for the quiet nerd
Quiet nerd girl falls for the quiet nerd
Miraculously, all the 'broken' girls just happen to be skinny with huge tits.
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u/scrapy_the_scrap cargo grungler 7d ago
it isnt a savior complex i just like tall girls and they are rare ;~;
/j
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u/EVedEevee 7d ago
I felt crazy for thinking that? Like it feels like the minions where no one really cared about them in the movie they’re from but you kept seeing it over and over and over and over again until it became something facebook moms would repost. Like I doubt the Facebook moms really liked despicable me that much. It’s like how pop music works, repeat it everywhere until people like it through association?
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u/AlwekArc 7d ago
This is exactly what I'm saying! This was not a natural progression for a gooner trend! It's too perfectly placed between everyone complaining about all the HP brand stuff being sold right now and the shows release to be anything other than a psyop
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u/crow-party-13 7d ago
I also suggested this elsewhere and the response was "You gotta be kidding." No, not kidding. It's just WAY too dominant across the Popular feed right now to be organic. It literally feels organized and astroturfed.
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u/Takseen 7d ago
Never attribute to malice what can be explained by horniness. Bowsette was a massive thing for a while as well, shipping Happy with Draco was popular for ages and now this allows for the straight version. And Harry Potter continues to be massively popular as an IP because most people unfortunately don't know or don't care that Rowling is a transphobe who uses Potter money to fund the transphobia.
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u/MakiMads 7d ago
Malice is a better name than Malfoid lol
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u/Kyleometers 7d ago
I’ve seen “Galfoy” from some of the Japanese circles, based on “Gyaru” culture. If the trend sticks around at all I would wager that’s what it’ll become.
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u/Rough_Historian_8494 7d ago
That pre-supposes the horniness isn't ever malicious which doesn't appear to be the case in our shared reality.
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u/Rasberrycello 7d ago
idk, I've lived through enough seemingly innocent 4chan raids, and the Epstein class creating Gamer Gate... The timing of this seems somewhat suspect.
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u/JumpingSpiderQueen He/They Femboy :3 7d ago
Also, using horniness on purpose is totally plausible, especially if someone is already aware of internet trends such as the whole Bowsette and similar being a thing. I could see someone in a room talking to a few people about how to make marketing that doesn't seem like marketing, and someone bringing up Bowsette and utilizing the internet'sl desire for marketing.
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u/Rogu__Spanish 7d ago
I think Harry Potter fans are just so fuckin basic that this is their first exposure to anything resembling a fetish. They've only read one book in their entire lives, they clearly aren't adventurous or curious people.
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u/Accurate_Praline 7d ago
The Harry Potter fans who dont normally consume fanworks you mean.
Some of the explicit HP fics with the most hits are not vanilla.
The ones who like this trend feel like they're also the type to hail methods of rationality as the best fanfic ever without having read anything else.
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u/deathbotly 7d ago
Oh thank god, someone feels the same way. I feel so crazy paranoid thinking that myself but it absolutely flooded my feed when I tried popular, forced in a lot of subs that didn’t make sense with only the slightest excuse like using it as a meme template or whatever, and a lot of generic bot comments praising the series mixed in with all the actual redditor gooning. Doomscrolling the harry potter spam and going why tf does this feel like a marketing psyop??
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u/MaXimillion_Zero 7d ago
Were you not around for Bowsette? It's just another flash in the pan gooner fad.
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u/Jaybird0501 7d ago
Idk Bowsette didnt come with a bunch bigotry like this new fad is. Like yes obviously there were chuds mad, but like when arent they? This is different. This has a stink to it.
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u/Nacil_54 7d ago
Yeah bigots are drawing (most of the time ai hallucinating) her burning or destroying trans flags, which is pretty ironic for a rule63 character.
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u/Skorched3ARTH 7d ago
But where will they find another platinum blonde tsundere? .... except for pretty much everywhere tsunderes apear.
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u/cxfgfuihhfd Streak: 1 7d ago
me, when I have to block cwcl because the post telling me to block malfoid mentioned malfoid
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u/KnownAlcoholic 7d ago
I just don't get it, there's literally a much better version made years ago, and doesn't support a godawful excuse for a human being
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u/LurkinMakesMeFeelGud 7d ago
Season 1 of The Owl House also includes a female malfoy with good writing and no bigotry.
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u/SiriusBookLover Silly trans boy 7d ago
I'm honestly so fed up with all the posts about malfoid...
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u/Elliot_Geltz 7d ago edited 7d ago
My biggest gripe about this sub is that it cannot shut up about things it wants to stop hearing about.
It seems like most of the users here don't like Malfoid? Well we should throw up twenty billion posts about Malfoid. Of course
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u/XtendedImpact 7d ago
I'm so tired of algorithmically recommended rage bait. Not specifically about the Malfoid trend despite the garbage name, but I keep getting recommended rage bait not only for my fandoms, but also for my politics. Thanks Mr Algorithm but I'm not interested in hating men or women, despite how often you recommend me videos in that direction. I'm not interested in hating anyone except for intolerant morons but I already do that and I don't need to see 46000 clips of various left-ish debate artists making fools of them.
I genuinely believe algorithmic rage bait is one of the worst things to happen to civilization since WW2. Literally nothing positive and its negative consequences are so visible in the steadily rising intolerance world wide.
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u/MLCosplay 7d ago
On Reddit it's not even Reddit's algorithm, it's the bot farms/paid trolls. Now that you can hide your post history there's tons of people from low-income countries who are being paid to spam posts about the latest gender war topic of the week. And they choose a new subreddit to take over every month or so.
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u/IceTypeMimikyu 7d ago
Like all the posts bitching about “never engage with Harry Potter” as they themselves keep it relevant by continuing to post about it?
‘Cause yeah it really defeats the purpose
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u/Rogu__Spanish 7d ago
How is that possible?? They turned the Hitler youth kid into a generic looking blonde girl and had her sneer at Harry! I shot more rope than Spiderman! Seriously though, I don't get it at all.
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u/Talkatoo42 7d ago
The way I originally saw it was before all this 'malfoid' crap, which was Korean social media were basically saying "Harry Potter would've been 10x better if Malfoy had been a girl" and artists were running with the idea.
Which honestly I think is true. Malfoy is a character who is extremely flat and it would add some interesting wrinkles to the character and her dynamic with Harry. I mean anything is more interesting than Ginny!
Since then people are running with it and the usual crowd has completely sexualized it, of course.
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u/host_can_edit 7d ago
I did not know that the hate on the character was centered around the use of the suffix "oid". I thought the hate was based on the fact that it's Harry Potter and its association with jk rowling.
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u/Striking_Weird9394 7d ago
Yea for me its both. And also the fact that they are being used by right wing grifters too simp over-
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u/Ahnma_Dehv 7d ago
I think the difference between Malfoid & Petra Parker should be studied:
-both are "gender swap" fan-creation
-malfoid became romance/Porn
-Petra became stories of oppression and the trans experience
I guess that tells a lot about how LGBT people and right wing people see women, and how they each interpret a male character being turned into a female character
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u/Josutg22 7d ago
Meanwhile if you want a blond upper class snob to fawn over Diana Cavendish is RIGHT THERE, GO WATCH LITTLE WITCH ACADEMIA! That series has more soul and originality than HP could ever dream of
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u/Queen_Gremlin281 7d ago
It's nice to sometimes see people standing up for trans rights in those subs, but the fact that any comments like "i dont care about trans rights over harry potter" even exist and are tolerated, it's the nail in the coffin for me.
If that sort of talk isn't immediately shut down, i dont want to even entertain that sub.
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u/Seductive-Kitty 7d ago
sadly even trans people I know irl put up with HP. then again one of them did ask me the day before who they should vote for the day before the 2024 elections…
I think society is just cooked
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u/febe3d 7d ago
I legit thought Rowling had died or smt, because i saw so many posts. But no, rn she seems to be alive. I hope she'll get well soon and be nicer.
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u/Kevo_1227 7d ago
This whole trend is so weird to me.
Like ... there's been fan art and fiction about various girl versions of Malfoy for literally decades. From AUs where Draco (and sometimes others) were always girls, to stories where Draco is turned into a girl with magic, and everything in between. Lots of it is smut, and Draco is a tsundere for Harry (or genderbent Harry) in I think every single one.
The only new thing here is the name "Malfoid" which signals to the worst possible people that this is a trend for them. It leans into Draco's racism and frames it as desirable.
But, like, to anyone else, why not just look at the 20+ years of girl-Draco content that already exists?
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u/TudorTheWolf 7d ago
You have to love this kind of ally... We asked for one thing, please don't interact with harry potter because it directly funds our oppression, by the author's own admission... Didn't ask them to donate to us instead... Didn't even ask them to go in the streets and protest for our rights, we asked for the bare minimum of not funding our extermination... But this one mediocre-at-best children's book is where they draw the line.
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u/Lost-Soft-8913 7d ago
Eagerly waiting for this psy op to die. Pedophilic hetslop from a shit franchise
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u/Slow___Learner Jeśli to czytasz to zmarnowałam twój czas😈 7d ago
i have not once seen that genderbent malfoy, i only see people complain about it.
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u/LiveAcanthaceae5553 7d ago edited 7d ago
I see malfoid posts pretty regularly with this being the first one complaining about it, just depends on your feed ig
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u/AppearanceAlert4987 I wanna grow boobs(masc identifying he/they MtNB) - Streak: 4 7d ago
lucky you, i have had to block like 3 subs already
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u/CatTaxAuditor 7d ago
Not even commenting on the whole Harry Potter aspect of it, I fucking detest the normalization of misogynistic incel terminology. Sure, today it's ironic for some, but that how language evolves and it's a really troubling tell about the attitudes towards women growing more and more negative.
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u/NoNo_Bluebird_1368 Streak: 48 7d ago
I'm surprised that it's still going on.
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u/NoCommander26 she / him 7d ago
Can we go back to Petra Parker now ?
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u/IceWallowDeesNuts 7d ago
Not gonna lie the fact that the internet moved on so fucking quick from Petra Parker to THIS. Is actually astounding.
Like I remember when you couldn’t scroll past one post without seeing a Petra Parker comic, now I have heard a peep.
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u/Vivian_IsAlive 7d ago
petra parker was a buttery wagyu steak and malfoid is a unseasoned undercooked chicken
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u/Sharkolo 7d ago
The only way I'd accept Gender swap Draco Malfoy is with a Gender swapped Harry Potter.
Otherwise, its just gender swapping to make it straight and like... why would you do that.
Gender Swap Equality. Get the chicken a seasoning of Yuri >:)
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u/Xirithas There's a whole world outside my closet and I'm missing it. 7d ago
Petra Parker is my new canon. Not headcanon, she's just canon.
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u/FinalLegend312 7d ago edited 7d ago
Does it feel like the gender bent Malfoy is a response to Petra Parker to anybody else or is it just me?
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u/Roadkillgoblin_2 7d ago
I wasted so much time reading those books between the ages of 6 and 9 when I could have been reading through the entire Lord of the Rings series
I’ve since lost the ability to properly enjoy reading fiction :(
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u/Rosefairytails 7d ago
I was a voracious reader, the only reason I liked hp a lot back then was it was the first time I got to hang with people that liked the same book.
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u/DJOMaul 7d ago
Tbh, my title 1 teacher encouraged me to read the books because I love(d) magic. I chewed through those books going from a non-reader in 3rd grade to a 12th grade reading comprehension by 5th grade. I'll always be thankful those books opened a whole world of reading for me.
I am glad there is much more fantasy now that has various level of entry, so my son can experience something similar. If Brandon Sanderson goes off the deep end I'll be pretty upset though. My kid LOVES The Dog and the Dragon.
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u/Mae_Day_of_Sharkadia 7d ago
The truly infuriating part to me about all of this discourse is the fact that I've seen maybe... 8 different people toss Petra Parker into the mix and putting that trend on the same level. Especially when it's people saying "It's just sexualizing characters again."
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u/Beanguyinjapan 7d ago
Popping in to remind everyone your experience on the Internet isn't universal. This post so far is my only exposure to this, and I'm assuming it's just gender bent harry potter stuff with incel / gooner / racism thrown in for good measure? Like is this a fan game, or a Netflix show, or a doujinshi or something? I dunno, and don't really need to know. I'm sure it's absolutely dogshit just based on "Malfoid" but it can't have near the cultural relevance it may seem, right?
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u/Mendely_ 7d ago
Genderswap this genderswap that
When can we get a trend of OptiMiss Prime and Megantron yuri
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u/Scarvexx 7d ago
It'll blow over in a month. Until then let's all just imagine Draco's racist parents trying to get HRT from a muggle doctor (in 1997) because nothing to too good for their son daughter.
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u/Steelcap 7d ago
You can really piss them off by referring to her as trans draco.
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u/pequodbestboy 7d ago
Oh also there's like 5 different incel red flags with the "subplots" happening.
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u/toxicketchup Three ravens in a trenchcoat 7d ago
Left so many subs because of this dumbshit gooner fad.
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u/PitifulMagazine9507 7d ago edited 7d ago
Sorry to be the naive one, but someone can gently me explaining why this trend is bad?
EDIT: oh my god, calm down in the comments, I only wanted a simple explanation
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u/AnInsaneMoose Put your text here! - Streak: 1 7d ago
Because it gives more exposure to Harry Potter, which gives more money to JK Rowling, which goes directly into anti-trans hate groups and government bribes (lobbying) to further progress the genocide
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u/StandNameIsWeAreNo1 Probably bi, haven't had the opportunity to check 7d ago
I can't even goon properly. Every sub is spamming Malfoid, and it's waaaaayy too excessive. And if I say anything against it, I get downvoted to Oblivion. It was fun for like, 2 days, now it's just boring and it's the same story over and over again. Nothing original.
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u/gztozfbfjij 7d ago
I swear its a psyop or smth
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u/AestivalSeason 7d ago
The FBI does only have one purpose now and its support the Republican party, and unfortunately, the only thing they've talked about for like a decade minimum is trans people being bad. :/ wouldn't surprise me if crosseyed drunken furry exclusionist patel would be doing this instead of like. Anything useful
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u/TheEasternTwink 7d ago
It’s funny to me that even with a non canonical gender bend, it follows the trend of character being problematic in some way or having a slur name
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u/Terrible_Ingenuity11 I go by River | Gender is Wibbly Wobbly 7d ago
the original creator of the character is a slur.
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u/OpportunisticBarnacl 7d ago
I saw one in SFW monster girls of all places, lamia style. What the actual hell?
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u/Drunk-Pirate-Gaming 7d ago
I'll say this. It's not a Trans representation it's gender-swap fanfiction and I assure you the two dont correlate as much as o e might think
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u/AppearanceAlert4987 I wanna grow boobs(masc identifying he/they MtNB) - Streak: 4 7d ago
Strongly agree, Petra Parker makes for a good contrast, an example of a good trans representation
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u/RAGE_AGAINST_THE_ATM 7d ago
Why are people losing their minds over this stupid trend when Pacifica Northwest and Amity Blight have already existed for a long time?
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u/EmotionalEffect_ 7d ago
Still somehow better than the shit I've been getting, like straight up hate speech has been popping up for me.
You can tell there are US elections soon with all the astroturfing.
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u/DragonianXylak 7d ago
It's not even an interesting take on the character most of the time. The only exceptions to me have been when she is specifically MtF through magic, and/or Harry is too. Otherwise it tends to just comes across purely as a gooner harem fantasy. But even that I should probably not engage with.
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u/Mastergamer117 7d ago
I enjoy the fact that Rowling would despise her character being genderbent, and it’s not like she makes money from the genderbent fan art
You can support the IP without giving money to Rowling that’s fine, malfoid is a bit of a disgusting term tho, I saw Galfoy once and I much prefer that XD
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u/crec4et 7d ago
A character that is, consistently, portrayed as a minor villain regularly getting comeuppance? She'll eat it up and ask for more, she already had a book about a crossdressing serial killer.
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u/AestivalSeason 7d ago edited 7d ago
But she does though, the thing about fandom is it's what keeps the idea alive, by enjoying Harry Potter and spreading that love by any means, word of mouth, drawing, etc is that it can influence Someone, Somewhere, to go " oh yeah I did like that ten years ago. Where's my old mug?" Finds it broken and buys a new one or wants a new shirt or is influenced to try the new show, continuing the cycle. That's the issue with supporting the fandom at all anymore. Some people can enjoy it because they have critical thinking skills and can consume media without influence, but that is not possible for everyone, and any amount of effort put forth by anyone, is an increase in dollars at some point for Rowling to throw at governments to further eradicate trans people. When Jowling Kowling Rowling is finally cooked into the earth can people start to enjoy it, and she caused that.
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u/protogen-are-toaster 7d ago
whats malfoid? i have literally never heard or seen that sequence of letters in my life :3
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u/brickmaster8 7d ago
People are making a genderbent version of Draco Malfoy, and using 4tran language. Some people claim its to "own" JK, but honestly it feels like a psyop to get HP popular and trending again.
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u/Devastator5042 7d ago
It also appeared suddenly and took over the front page which is Hella sus
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u/DiegHDF Yo, be me? Me bee 7d ago
I'll be so honest, I'm mostly annoyed that all it takes for people to enjoy a ship is to make the asshole a girl, and suddenly the bullying and mocking is slightly shifted to be in a cutesy "Don't bully me (I forgot her name, fuck this manga)" kinda way
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u/PossMom Trans, pan and polyam 7d ago
It's not even a good trend.
Bratty uppity blonde woman? Gosh, never seen that before.
At least with Petra Parker and Bowsette those trends actually played with the character and world. Malfoid feels like generic white woman in a Harry Potter cosplay.
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