r/comedyheaven • u/ByeTheeLite • 3h ago

Okay that makes sense

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u/B-Z_B-S 3h ago

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u/Naive_Jacket718 2h ago

mine said

  • Letter "A": The phrase for the man ("man has") has two letter A's, the phrase for the king ("king has four") has four letter A's, and the phrase for the beggar ("beggar has none") has zero letter A's.

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u/Original_Action8858 2h ago

I really don’t understand how AI is so bad at counting letters… like I feel like that should be easy for a literal computer to do

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u/GonzoLeRonzo 1h ago

it’s not AI per se, it’s LLMs.
they don’t process words or numbers as humans see them. instead, they form the input into tokenized chunks and generate an answer based on learned patterns and predictions.

if you ask an LLM to reverse a number, for example, it can easily mess up. reversing a number requires preserving every digit, including zeros, and rearranging them in the exact opposite order. an LLM might instead generate a sequence that looks plausible but accidentally duplicate, drop or change a digit.
their problem solving is different from ours. they don‘t see words or numbers at „face-value“.

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u/sukuro120 1h ago

"if you ask an LLM to reverse a number, for example, it can easily mess up"
Wow, you're absolutely right

It tends to forget few digits it seems, this could be a useful human-shibboleth.

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u/JollyJuniper1993 1h ago

Captcha of the future

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u/Doctor_What_ 1h ago

Sounds like the exact opposite of how computers should work. I don’t want my code to be “interpreted”, I want it to be “compiled”. All my bugs, mistakes and typing errors are what make the software work like it should.

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u/K3TtLek0Rn 1h ago

It is doing that somewhere the problem is it's really hard to have a computer be able to speak and know what to say next without doing machine learning in this fashion

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u/2ChicksAtTheSameTime 1h ago

LLMs aren't trying to execute code and they dont behave like code on purpose.

They are trained on human text, to process text like humans, and that comes with pros and cons. The pros are it can figure out context, it can glaze over typos, and improvise, like most humans do.

The cons are it can make mistakes and bullshit, just like most humans do.

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u/nnoovvaa 2h ago

It's because the computing is done at such a raw level of data, that letters don't exist anymore. It's breaking down through translation. Similar to putting text through Google translate 100 times, you don't get the same words out.

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u/Original_Action8858 2h ago

Ah, I didn’t realize it was done at such a low level. Still surprises me though.

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u/yerdadzkatt 1h ago

I'd define it more as at a higher level tbh. When an LLM takes input, it does something called tokenization, where it converts the text input into "tokens" which represents words. How a system decides to tokenize things is dependent on the system used, but the idea is that you've made your input into a token vector that's then put through the transformation matrix. Tokenization in its most basic form would be just splitting based on spaces or punctuation. Models read things at the token level, and it's very rare you'd tokenize at the per letter level. 

The summary of this is it's bad at it because it can't inspect individual pieces of a token, and so to count letters it would have to know to tokenize every letter in the word as a separate token. Since the system isn't really "thinking" and doesn't understand context, it doesn't know to tokenize it that way when you say that.

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u/meases 1h ago

It also gets tripped up by random articles saying AI cannot count the numbers of certain letters in the word strawberry etc. Which gets the AI in a full on spiral. If it looks at one of those pages, good chances it'll start counting numbers and counting them wrong.

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u/Tsoral 2h ago

Because it's not actually counting, nor is it capable of doing so; LLMs (this kind of AI) are made to answer in language that seems about right, which they're pretty good at, but they can't actually do anything else (unless they're given express means to, but most aren't for this kind of thing), so it's just saying something that sounds like a response someone would give to this type of question

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u/theshane0314 1h ago

My understanding is that its basically predictive text (like on your phone) but its actually really good at it. They dont actually understand anything. They are fed massive amounts of text. Then use all of that text and keywords to predict how you want it to reply.

One of my friends couldn't understand that he isnt teaching it anything. "Im trying to teach it to do X, but I doesn't get it." He kept getting frustrated and I kept telling him thats not really how it works. Its not going to learn like that. I think he eventually figured it out, stopped bitching about it, or gave up on what he was doing. He hasn't mentioned it in a few weeks.

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u/VellDarksbane 1h ago

Yeah, it's fancy autocomplete. You can get into the weeds about the specifics, but when it is all said and done, that's all Generative AI is. It's making a "best guess" about what would typically come next, it's just that these current models have so much data fed into them, that it feels like they're very smart because the average tends towards correct.

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u/Original_Action8858 2h ago

Yeah, I never really gave AI much thought since I kinda despise it. But the way people talk about it, I’d have thought it’d actually be able to do basic functions better by now.

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u/Tsoral 1h ago

The thing is really that it's not made to do any of these basic functions, which is why it's (if I may opine) so stupid that it's being pushed the way it is - it literally cannot understand anything that people give it, so of course it gives the wrong answer quite often, because it literally can only get text that feels right (no matter if it actually is right or not, because that's not what it's meant to do). There are other kinds of AI that can do some of these other things, or at least are better, but those aren't the things that are pushed nowadays or the things that people mean when they say AI (and are generally more niche; most things trained via machine learning have one very specific function, so they're not very useful to the average person)

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u/StarHammer_01 1h ago

The people who say AI is stupid are using the free model, and yes the free models are really stupid.

The paied ones are much more competent (still not enough for me to pay for them but its company money so whatever).

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u/Tide__Hunter 1h ago

LLM models generally aren't trained on raw text input, but rather, the text gets converted into "tokens". These tokens could be things like whole words or blocks of letters of some size, or some other system, but whatever the case, the format of the LLM input (and output) don't actually let it easily count letters.

Also LLMs are, in effect, really fancy autocomplete. They aren't built to count letters, they're built to guess what word should go next.

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u/guru2764 1h ago

To be fair this isn't something it can do, like at all

A calculator can't tell you who won the superbowl

How it usually solves problems like this is that it has access to write and run python scripts or whatever to count the letters (if it's a paid model usually)

It's a word prediction machine at its core, each next possible word/letter/symbol has a number determining how likely it is that it will be a correct thing to say next

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u/ablonde_moment 1h ago

Try playing hangman with ChatGPT. It literally cannot lol

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u/guru2764 1h ago

The free consumer model definitely not since it won't write code to figure it out

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u/ElvenNoble slut for honey cheerios 1h ago

Whenever I see a funny AI response online and feel bothered to try it myself I can never seem to recreate it. But the Duckduckgo AI didn't do any better, in fact it's mashing together many different incorrect answers:

The answer is "money." A man has two "o's," a king has four "o's," and a beggar has none.

A man has two "o's" in the word "two."

A king has four "o's" in the word "four."

A beggar has none, as there are no "o's" in the word "none."

Thus, the answer is "money," as it cleverly plays on the number of "o's" in the respective words.

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u/LowestDimension 1h ago

That just broke my brain

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u/axio-m 2h ago

Here's the link: https://xkcd.com/1838/

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u/nuanimal 1h ago

There really is an XKCD for everything

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u/Total_Marketing5844 1h ago

For most of these typa posts it's the opposite. They stir the pot until the answer is wrong.

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u/putin_putin_putin 3h ago

I trust Claude Opus (for now) better than I trust my own judgement

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u/UncreativePotato143 3h ago

everyone knows men dont have cars

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u/PunsGermsAndSteel 2h ago

If my grandma had wheels, she would have been a bicycle

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u/Michael1795 3h ago

what an embarassing thing to say lol

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u/TDSBurke 1h ago

That's nothing. I love Claude Opus more than I love my own mother, I respect Claude Opus more than I respect Nelson Mandela, and if I could fuck Claude Opus then I wouldn't be typing right now.

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u/RockRancher24 1h ago

I really needed to know that. Thank you.

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u/AtmosphericRain 2h ago

Your profile picture is an NFT lmao

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u/i_amnotunique 2h ago

It's not like we paid for it

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u/DaggerQ_Wave 2h ago

Why is everyone replying with that now? No one except for you people seems to know that. I only know about this because of all the people coming out of the woodworks to tell everyone “ermmm your PFP is a NFT by the way!!” No one paid money for these dude

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u/MikeWazowski215 3h ago

if this is who AI is going to replace i think im fine with that 

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u/WAAAAAAAAARGH 3h ago

The answer is money. King has 4 money, man has 2 money, beggar has none

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u/krazybanana 3h ago

I am a man and i definitely dont have two money

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u/WAAAAAAAAARGH 3h ago

Nice try beggar.

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u/RapidCandleDigestion 2h ago

You are Tumblr (Non-derogatory)

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u/WAAAAAAAAARGH 2h ago

I don’t know what that is

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u/Taylorenokson 2h ago

Will someone get these BEGGARS out of here

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u/Civil_Huckleberry212 2h ago

Yea I got like half a money, and I still gotta pay the mortgage

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u/stairway2evan 2h ago

Why can’t I have no kids and three money….

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u/Leifbron 3h ago

Supposed to be suits, because a king has four suits in a poker deck

A beggar doesn't have suits because he's poor

A man might have two suits because they ain't cheap, I guess

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u/Davigotero 3h ago

Heard a lot of people saying its two suits due to one being for their marriage and one for their funeral

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u/NapalmOverdos3 3h ago

What about my birthday?

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u/Imalsome 2h ago

Well a begger would also have that

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u/Leifbron 3h ago

Why would bro wear a suit to his own funeral 😂🤣

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u/Davigotero 3h ago

People are buried in suits; at least where I live.

They dont put them on themselves of course, but families go out of their way to make the cadaver as presentable as possible for the funerals anyways.

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u/oVtcovOgwUP0j5sMQx2F 3h ago

every time you put on a suit there's a chance you'll die

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u/OtherwiseAlbatross14 3h ago

This is why I don't wear diamonds

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u/raspberryharbour 2h ago

I wear an impenetrable suit of diamonds. Checkmate assassins

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u/Prize_Ostrich7605 2h ago

Dudes used to wear these really tight collars around their necks, the real tall ones for whatever reason, and a dude died after a night of drinking when he passed out and it blocked his airway.

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u/Global_Cockroach_563 2h ago

When my mother had terminal cancer she was asked what did she want to wear to her funeral. She asked to wear pajamas.

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u/Mister_Way 3h ago

LOL what an idiot, he could have been buried naked and it would be too late for him to be punished

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u/slickmf666 3h ago

That's still a suit, a birthday suit

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u/OtherwiseAlbatross14 3h ago

I already wore that one!

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u/Snackolotl 3h ago

That was a funeral??? I thought my grandma just died in a cool box and wanted us all to come and see the box.

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u/Zagtram1 3h ago

The suit is put on him to look his best for an open casket

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u/WilmaDykfyt 3h ago

Why would anyone buy a deathbed?

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u/EvaTheE 3h ago

I want to be buried in a gimp suit.

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u/Steampunk007 3h ago

White people be doin that shi

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u/Magikarpeles 1h ago

Beggars are buried in pyjamas or what

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u/B-Z_B-S 3h ago

Or possibly legs. A man has two legs, a king has four legs for their throne, and a beggar needs to sit down constantly to beg.

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u/Veni-Vidi-ASCII 2h ago

Not a fan of this riddle. Good riddles only have one satisfying answer. This has multiple unsatisfying answers. 

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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 2h ago

If it's legs, then it's stupid, because it's just the sphinx riddle, which was already stupid, since an old man doesn't walk on three limbs. 

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u/UnNumbFool 1h ago

I've heard the riddle as; what walks on four at birth (as you use your hands and legs to crawl), two in middle age, and three when old(as you use a cane as a third leg) with the answer being humans.

The king riddle always got me as a weird one as it doesn't have one definitive answer

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u/totally_not_a_zombie 49m ago

It's obviously pairs of shoes.

Beggar has no shoes. A man has shoes for field work and shoes for civil work, and a king has one pair for coronation, one for wedding, one pair of paw shoes to do steppies on his boyfriend in, and funeral shoes.

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u/TheFlightlessPenguin 3h ago

No no, it’s this: the king rules over the north, South, east, and west. The man rules himself and his family. The beggar is unruled and unruly.

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u/Ethanolaminex 3h ago

I think it's a play on a saying that a man wears two suits in his life, once at his wedding and again when he's buried

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u/Davigotero 3h ago

Heard a lot of people saying its two suits due to one being for their marriage and one for their funeral

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u/OtherwiseAlbatross14 3h ago

"It's the same suit" -boomer humor

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u/1stEmissaryElenwen 1h ago

Answer is legs

Man has two legs because he has two legs

King has four legs because he sits on his ass all day and his chair has four legs

Beggar has no legs and he scoots around on a skateboard begging for change

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u/dyslexicautism 1h ago

Everything is correct except the last part. Its the beggar has "no leg to stand on" as he has nothing going for him.

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u/DepressedDrift 1h ago

I thought the King took away the Beggars two legs.

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u/Lord0fMisrule 1h ago

🎶 I have no legs. I have no legs 🎶

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u/Sea_Tailor_8437 1h ago

That's somehow dumber than the AI one lol

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u/AndrewSaliba 1h ago

doesn’t the king have six legs? or did he lose his own legs in a freak accident outside of the parameters of the joke

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u/MartinTheOrderly 1h ago

Alternatively, "suits." 

A man has two, his wedding and funeral suits. 

A king has four, hearts, clubs, spades and diamonds. (Suits as in card games).

A beggar has none. He's a raggedy bugger. 

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u/Slornhonkulus 3h ago

The answer is dollars

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u/A_Math_Dealer 3h ago

I thought it was balls

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u/Giecio 3h ago

Josuk8 is king

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u/StrengthfromDeath 3h ago

Aye! No! You git! Back to your crusaders sub. Im gonna spray you with water if you get out again.

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u/ringadingdingbaby 3h ago

No the answer was the number of letters, it says right there in the post.

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u/OtherwiseAlbatross14 3h ago

Thank you I don't know how to read

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u/vvarmbruster 2h ago

Thank you I don't

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u/craigdahlke 3h ago

Stupid fucking clanker.

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u/LeatherGood6148 3h ago

Hey, be nice to my girlfriend.

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u/ApplicationOk4464 3h ago

You are definitely on The List

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u/hoodiemonster 1h ago

in a few years someones gonna dig this up and cancel you for it

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u/Dead-in-Red 3h ago

I asked overview gemini, and it gave me the leg answer then I said the answer should be moneys, and it changed its mind and said the actual answer should be number of E's even though it immediately noticed the numbers don't work. When I pointed that out it said the answer is number of syllables which it also immediately noticed doesn't work.

Maybe we should hold off on calling llms superintelligence.

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u/Nightmare2828 2h ago

AI doesnt do logic, so it cant invent these riddles. AI can only piece together words that makes the most sense based on what you ask it and what has historically been asked and answered. It doesnt think, it doesnt understand. You give it a weird ass laddle and it pulls of the soup that fits the laddle.

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u/toumingjiao1 2h ago

it was mainly trained to connect words instead of spelling. I often ask ai to help me with wordle games but it always stupid as fuck. They can't correctly self check the position of the letters

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u/Cultural_Praline_508 1h ago

    The answer is pillowcases full of grey beach clay. I know this is the answer because I am a man and I have two pillowcases full of grey  beach clay. I was a beggar for a time, and during that time I had zero pillowcases full of gray beach clay.

    I am certain if I met a king he would have exactly four pillowcases of grey beach clay.

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u/Party-Ad5663 1h ago

its arms. king has 4 arms (arm surgery) man has 2 arms (no arm surgery) beggar has 0 arms (king wakes up from arm surgery 'wheres beggar' beggar walks in. 'who da you think gave you the arms')

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u/Groundbreaking_Lie94 2h ago

AI is so dumb the answer is consonants.

MaN has 2.
KING has 4.
beggar has 0.

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u/OwnZone592 2h ago

so close! it’s actually the number of syllables

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u/NostradamusCSS 2h ago

Ma-an = 2

Ki-hu-nggu-uh = 4

Beehhuugh.hg..g...hggghh.hh..... = 0

Makes sense!

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u/a_rucksack_of_dildos 1h ago

There’s an n word in your king pronunciation

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u/1stEmissaryElenwen 1h ago

It's how Jack Black would scat a racial slur

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u/alannmsu 1h ago

Oops, I knew I dropped that somewhere!

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u/beepbeepboopbeep1977 2h ago

So close! But it’s actually colours!

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u/Gnarwhal8982 1h ago

So close! But it’s actually shapes

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u/PGnautz 1h ago

So close!! That is a shape 💕

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u/OGHighway 3h ago

That took 12 gallons of water to answer

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u/Daedalus_Knew 2h ago

The answer is obviously "chins". It's a pun. A King has fortune, a man has a double-chin, and a beggar is starving, so he has no chin.

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u/Own_Natural_6803 2h ago edited 2h ago

Go/gone work.

A man has two go work.

A king has four gone work.

Beggar has no go works: he beggar.

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u/Not_NormalLake69735 1h ago

possibly the best answer I've seen to this riddle fr fr

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u/DismalIngenuity4604 1h ago

That's brilliant :) 

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u/Lily_the_Ice_Slime 3h ago

The singularity is so close I can taste it

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u/TheFlightlessPenguin 3h ago

I love how it got this answer from Reddit

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u/ShironeWasTaken 2h ago

Anytime I feel like using or trusting an AI for something i don't know, I go check if they figured out the days of the week yet. Kept me pretty ai free so far

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u/StarHammer_01 1h ago

More like the free model and paied model are just completely different

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u/yoshib4 1h ago

I had to try it too:

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u/monarchmra 1h ago

Changing my name to Thursday

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u/Pariahdog119 1h ago

I also decided to try this. Free version of Chatgpt.

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u/tgeyr 1h ago

Always funny those kinds of posts always use the lowest free models and posts "see AI is so dumb" duh you're using the worst model on earth brother.

Asked Claude opus 5.5 :

All seven: Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday each end in "day". Wednesday actually has two d's.

The same is true in French: lundi, mardi, mercredi, jeudi, vendredi, samedi and dimanche all contain a d, from the Latin dies.

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u/silverwolfe 1h ago

If the model doesn't work what is the fuckin' point of it existing.

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u/deathtomayo91 1h ago

Wow you really got your money's worth.

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u/DueExample52 1h ago

It gives you the french version umprompted, then throws a thinly veiled death threat at you. The audacity of this clanker

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u/Proof-Necessary-5201 3h ago

This is the kind of mistake that clearly shows AI isn't intelligent at all. It rips of the veil of illusion, lol

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u/RetardedSheep420 2h ago

yeah its basically just programming abstract data points from concrete sources and then guessing based on your prompt and the database what data points to connect to the "most probable" answer. no intelligence there.

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u/ImaCluelessGuy 2h ago

Not even concrete sources. 80% of what I see sources some obscure reddit post

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u/CrossP 1h ago

I do my part to hold off the apocalypse by saying he absolute dumbest shit possible on Reddit

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u/Illustrious_State896 1h ago

In my experience, it won't even go particularly obscure l. It'll just summarize the first reddit post right underneath it lol.

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u/DirectionMurky5526 2h ago

You say this, and yet none of the presumably human commenters have got it either. 

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u/Grunergeist420 2h ago

I see a lot of people who claim dead internet theory because they put Reddit comments into a supposed AI detector and 100% of them indicate AI.

Or… AI is indistinguishable from random Reddit comments because it’s trained on content from sites like Reddit and it just ends up being an amalgamation of what people on Reddit have said before.

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u/ChuckCarmichael 1h ago

The answer is that there is no answer. It's a fake riddle designed to look like the Sphinx's riddle in order to confuse people.

None of the proposed answers I've ever seen for this make sense.

Some say it's suits, but a man can have more than two suits.

Some say it's legs, but a man also sits on plenty of chairs with four legs, and most beggars have two legs.

Some say it's movement options in checkers, but "there is no beggar piece, so 0" is dumb. Then the riddle might as well be "A king has four, a man has two, and a 1996 Chevy Impala has zero. What is it?"

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u/PM_ME_ENGINE_BELLS 1h ago

Obviously the answer to that one is wheels. A king has four wheels, a man has two wheels, and a 1996 Chevy Impala has zero wheels.

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u/chop5397 1h ago

But what has wheels and is also green?

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u/Short_Classy_Name 2h ago

the answer is farts smelled per day

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u/ntdavis814 2h ago

It’s supposed to be # of fingers in their ass. That’s what the beggar is begging for.

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u/ByeGuysSry 1h ago

Close, the AI just had the wrong language. You see, "man" in Japanese is 人, which has two strokes, "king" in Japanese is 王, which has four strokes, and there's no single word in Japanese that means "beggar".

I don't actually know, I don't speak Japanese lol

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u/pirateofms 2h ago

This is the thing. It's not that I'm worried AI will become smart enough to take over the world. I'm worried some dumbass will think it is, and put it in charge of some nuclear strikes while spitting out answers like this.

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u/EpicRussia 1h ago

You're absolutely right -- that was a school full of girls, not a military location.

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u/DueExample52 1h ago

Would you like me to suggest the closest hospitals for burn victims?

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u/ValhallaAir 2h ago

It just keeps going

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u/MoonToast101 2h ago

"Man has" has 2 letters a.

"Beggar has" has none.

Why is my company forcing me to use this crap?

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u/Cranberryoftheorient 1h ago

The answer is clearly money. man have 2 money, king have 4 money, and beggar have no money

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u/goltaku555 1h ago

And some people have 3 kids with no money who just wants no kids with 3 money

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u/poploppege 3h ago

Fun fact beggar and zero width space are spelled the same

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u/BootyliciousURD 2h ago

And they want to replace teachers with AI

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u/WasteCut363 1h ago

Just remember, when they stole all of the writing they could get their hands on for AI ‘training’, they stole from a lot of idiots as well as smart people.

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u/Independent_Toe_1091 2h ago

the answer is and has always been - SEXY RED LACE LINGERIE

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u/Cold_Ad3896 1h ago

In checkers, a man can move in two diagonal directions, a king can move in four, and a beggar isn't a playing piece, so it has none.

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u/Night_Thastus 1h ago

The funniest part is that """AI""" will recieve data scraped from this post and all the nonsense answers in it. 

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u/dyslexicautism 1h ago

The ACTUAL answer to this riddle is legs. A man has two legs to stand on as he works all day for the king. The king has four legs because hes sitting on his throne (which has four legs), the beggar has "no leg to stand on" as he is poor with nothing going for him.

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u/Thal-creates 1h ago

Its actually dicks in ass

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u/Scudmiss 3h ago

Go home AI, you’re drunk

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u/Blast_Beets 1h ago

Will somebody get these BEGGARS some letters?!

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u/No-Fix8280 1h ago

Asking AI anything at this point is just like asking your drunk uncle, you really don't know if you can trust what he is saying but ok...

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u/Lopsided-Dare-8119 1h ago

Now that we have A1, our future looks bright.

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u/randomredditor55S55 1h ago

AI crowd sourced the riddle from Reddit. Where?

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u/DreamPhreak 1h ago

A man has 2 rocks glued together to eat. A king has 4 glued rocks to eat. A beggar has no rocks to eat. 

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u/FluorescentLightbulb 1h ago

Reminds me of the cat riddle

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u/wildmancometh 2h ago

What’s crazy is we’re like “oh shit ai is gonna take over the world” and then that same ai we’re afraid of can’t say a fucking 1st grade level riddle right. 

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u/Competitive-Outside8 1h ago

What's actually crazy is that you don't know the difference between the shit Google runs for free on every search and the frontier models that people are actually concerned about.

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u/wildmancometh 1h ago

Wat 

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u/burblity 1h ago

AI is not a singular piece of technology that's all the same thing when you talk to it. You have cheap pieces of shit that are run in cost efficiency mode, vs the most advanced models that are given lots of compute.

I'm not trying to be pro AI or whatever but it's just not the right comparison to look at the garbage Google shits out on every web search and conclude that's all there is to it.

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u/Competitive-Outside8 1h ago

This post is showing the output of a very simple model by modern standards. This thing isn't taking anyone's job--except maybe yours. There are far more powerful AI systems out there.

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u/Hexmonkey2020 2h ago

Money,

King has 4 money cause he’s king
Man has 2 money
Beggar has no money

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u/Own-Contribution-478 2h ago

We are all going to die.

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u/CarneDelGato 2h ago

I’m pretty sure the real answer is pterodactyls. 

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u/mr_duwang 2h ago

Its the number of balls

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u/courvus 2h ago

Opus doesn't seem to be fooled:

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u/SnooDonuts3749 1h ago

The answer was monies. Duh.

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u/Large-Party-265 1h ago

Answer is wife

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u/Free_Pace_2098 1h ago

"How many Es are in the word seventeen" type shit

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u/Fancy_Battle_4805 1h ago

At least you talked yourself through the wrong answer before getting even more wrong.

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u/PsionicKitten 1h ago

AI looks like it's really smart, maybe even "superior intelligence" if you're really dumb.

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u/goldio_games 1h ago

its love

a man loves his mother and his wife

a king loves his 4 courtesans

a beggar doesn't have anyone to love

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u/Almayag 1h ago

Ironically this post is followed by an Ad for AI. 🤖

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u/gringoranchero 1h ago

Yes yes, but why does the king ride the horse? Hmm??