They all saw how great Grob was and wanted in so when Crusader Strike came around they all wanted in and in doing so blew any chance of it coming back

The reason why the phasing/sharding is so noticeable at capital cities is because the entrance is a ginormous bottleneck of people coming in/out. If these layer/shard transitions happened in places where there are less people, it would be way less jarring and noticeable.

Geographical rigid borders should not be where sharding occurs.

This would also allow a lot of world cohesion for dueling outside Orgrimmar or any capital city. Currently, if you see someone in Org and want to duel them, you both run out and there's a 99% they will phase away. This is a solution to keep some sort of that cohesion.

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We know they read these posts, so we can for sure make a difference if we try.
They don't want to split the RP community, and RP PvP servers have the lowest population.
That's what they said.

Expect we're realmless. There's enough of us where we would be happy.
I would happily trade a lower population for less layering on a RP server.

And, I don't know about you, but as someone who enjoys RP PvP, not adding that ruleset isn't going to make me choose the RP ruleset. It's going to make me choose PvP. So, assuming I'm not alone in that, they're already splitting the RP community. Just give us the option to play the game the way we want. This is ridiculous.

Can we get this before 20 rogues are spamming a skinning macro on devilsaurs.

I sware now all my friends who were going to play horde are now telling me they might go alliance based on this new racial update that is coming. Jesus, can we just get rid of racials, so many people I know care about them and I just want to play with my friends

As a Druid healer myself, please don’t stand in the fire lol

https://youtu.be/vda-A-QmEGk?is=Fp4KxCsaMz1HmQ9l

If I understood correctly this is the last Dev Podcast.

There are so many questions like:

What they want to do with buffs/debuffs and consumables in raids

• Will campfire buffs work in raids?

• Will any buffs be changed to be raidwide ( Like WF and 3% crit)

Raid size - Do they want to stick to a static 10/20 setup or possibly make it like SOD?

Will the raids launch with a legendary or as the road map the first one comes in Spring 2027.

As WoW Forever gets closer, I’m still torn on which ruleset to choose.

As a 20+ year WoW veteran, PvP has always been my favorite part of the game. But recently, while leveling in Thousand Needles at 25, I got repeatedly ganked by a level 30. After 3–4 deaths and that miserable 10–15 minute run back, I just logged off.

I get it, that’s part of playing on a PvP server, and the payoff is world PvP at 60. But I almost wish Blizzard would introduce an OSRS Wilderness-style system where you can only attack players within a certain level range.

I can’t see myself playing PvE because I’m not much of a dragon slayer. PvP is what I love, but getting camped by higher-level players is frustrating. Kill me once, fine, but let me move on.

Maybe it’s worse because people are bored in beta, but I can definitely see it happening at launch too.

Anyone else torn between PvP and PvE?

I have a suggestion for improving how groups are formed in the LFG tool, and I want to know what you think about it.

I'm the kind of player who creates my own groups and invites other players rather than just sitting around waiting to get invited.

Many players queue up for multiple roles and multiple dungeons.

What if you had to choose which dungeon and role you are inviting other players for? And on the receiving end, the invite from the LFG tool should display which dungeon they were invited to and in which role.

I've had more than plenty of invited players asking in group chat "Which dungeon?". This would fix that.

Remove raid lockouts

Make every item a chase item

Raid drops nothing besides gold? Lets go again.

There will be pugs happening every hour of the day

It’s basically zero already in every meaningful way.

The skip meta, 0 replay ability, are all going to exist as if these mobs gave zero xp, because they might as well with how low it currently is. At least then it’s obvious where we stand.

The only effect the 10 xp per mob has is its letting the pro dungeon crowd say dumb things like “you can still level in dungeons it’s just slower” or “you should be happy now you get to dungeon more!” When we all know it’s a smokescreen bad faith argument.

Hear me out.

it'd be sick if Forever let Humans discover or temporarily join the Scarlet Crusade and actually see the faction from the inside. It could be part of leveling journey or some side content at 60+

You venture in as an outsider. Start off doing normal stuff with them - kill X, find Y. Then over a really long quest chain you slowly discover some corruption within the leadership is, investigate it, and eventually discover the Balnazzar manipulation from within.

I've always loved Scarlet Crusades. Yes. Their actual mission was mostly novel. They fought the undead to get their lands back. You could easily argue, "desperate times require desperate measures"

We have so much lore for them, but the base game just portrays them as “evil red guys, so go kill 20.”

I'd make it Human-only too. Fits the lore way better and gives racial identity some actual meaning. This would reward you with typical Scarlet armor/weapons/tabard/cosmetics instead of power.

Just imagine you actually get to learn the lore from their perspective. Go into new areas within the cathedral. Make a hearthstone location from within their halls! You basically get to live amongst them and represent their faction out in the world. Unlock new quests, new lore. Get a flight path. Have a friendly camp/town location in their theme.

This is the kind of horizontal progression/world content I want from Forever. I'd legit sell my kidney to have Scarlet Crusades as a friendly faction.

Keep getting stuck at logging into game server.. anyone else dealing with this?

The rogue who always camped Booty Bay / Menethil Harbor.

The first guy with Thunderfury on top of the mailbox in Stormwind / Org.

Ninja looting drama where someone is ostracized or an entire top level guild falls apart.

I feel like all of these things will disappear now that we have one massive shared mega-server. Scammers will fade into the anonymity of the masses. I won’t ever get revenge on that griefer because I’m not on their layer. I won’t see the first Thunderfury because they were on a different shard. Just another grain of sand on the beach.

I think you’re completely wrong about your opinion on this Sir Aggrend. I ran the largest RP guild in SoD the entire time we had events, wrote stories and had large communities. Things like Barnys Scarablord won’t happen on a PVP mega server, or on an RP PvE server. RP players will walk past people in need and it’ll make the RP server 90% Ali. Players who play on RPvP look for true RP experience. They want to feel like they are in the horde or alliance. Finding a horde RPer in STV as an Aliance and bowing and working together doesn’t happen on PVP servers. I think you’re listening to streamers and if you launch it later it’ll create a vacuum of people. This is a really bad take.

Grobb mob needs to continue to make noise.

I want to prefice this by saying i have nothing against most streamers,

The big problem with this type of content is the precedent of going out of their way to make this area for only 2 days of duels.

What else can we expect from this company that even now has small amount of time to fix enormous amount of bugs and not needed features in the game prior to launch, isnt this just going to make fixing those bugs which should be priority even more of a hurdle.

idk just wanted to rant a bit since this shows how much blizzard cares about normal players and how much they care about their good boy propaganda parrots.

Polls are blocked from this subreddit so I couldn't use Reddits built in system unfortunately.

https://strawpoll.com/NMnQNxAe0g6

Or is it about getting to 60 as fast as possible so you can actually start enjoying the game?

When you have gold, it's a lot more fun to level. You'll also have legacy points.

With all the changes, I don't even see the point of doing dungeons. It's a waste of time. You have to run around gathering up all the quests. You have to run to the dungeon. Wait for everyone else to do the same thing.

All for maybe one level and some green gear that's barely better than what's on the ah?

Just go back at level 60 and farm whatever you need from there.

What do you think of this answer? I am a bit disheartened that they seem to only be talking about layering in a PVP sense when it is a constant immersion breaking thing happening everywhere.

I'm having a hard time choosing a class, so I thought I'd turn to this community to help challenge some of my preconceived notions and fears.

I'd kindly but firmly ask to avoid the usual advice of "just play every class to level 30 and see what you like." Instead, I'd love to start a discussion with others who might have similar doubts or have been in the same situation.

I understand that no class can do everything, and that's part of the charm of WoW Classic. I'm not looking for a perfect class that has it all, just hoping to gain some clarity and make a more informed choice.

I'd really appreciate hearing your experiences, perspectives, and thoughts on the different classes!

Me: Love BG pvp/wpvp, tanking is kinda fun, DPS is where its at, NoHabloHeal (never tired but find it kinda boring). Play 70% solo 30% with friends.

Shaman
Pros:
- Enhance look kinda fun with WF and attack speed boost
- 2h bonking people
- Great utillity
- Instant ghostwolf
- Dronestrike people in ele
- Easy to get raidspot
Cons:
- A lot of utility to manage (good and bad)
- Totems feels like a task more then a buff
- RNG on windfury kinda bring bad controll in PVP
- Squishy and frail
- Gonna have to play a homeless person aka Dwarf since friends roll ally

Rogue
Pros
- Stealth, skip quest and avoid gankparties on pvp server
- Awesome control in pvp
- Easy rotation in pve with very low responsibility
- Chefs kiss in world PVP and lurking in BGs
- Love the class fantasy
Cons
- Kinda one dimensional
- No utility (Gl on the raid spot buddy)

Hunter
Pros
- Amazing levelers
- Nice to have a pet as a personal tank at farming
- Lonewolf sound fun on a geared MM hunter
- Great in world pvp
- Always demanded in raid since they are ranged
- Movement speed
Cons
- Only DPS
- Deadzone (Feel like a gimp when someone pushing up on you)
- Kinda squishy but not shaman lvl squishy
- Easy way out (have a lot of hours at my disposal, is hunter really the way to go?)

Warrior
Pros
- Geared Warrior is just so nice
- Love BGs as a geared Arms
- Nice to see cleave dmg in raids
- Pop retal and have cooldowns + 100 rage is just awesome
- New tanking looks amazing
- Cool class fantasy
- 3 good specs
Cons
- Leveling speed
- World PVP is gimped if solo
- No movement speed
- Solo farming is a pain if you are out in the world (pvp/slow farming speed)
- No so easy finding raidspot

Paladin
Pros
- Awesome Utility with 1h blessings
- Feels burstier than before
- No refresh seal
- 15% Movement in ret
- Brain dead tank in dungeons and U still look like you know what your doing
Cons
- Still bad gap closing
- Since every horde is going to be undead paladin it will be like two bulls knocking there heads together most pvp scenarios
- Gotta bop, dispel, off heal, keep track of blessings other party members to not look like a tool
- No really great control in pvp, a lot of "oh shit" buttons but nothing to control enemy

Warlock
Pros
- Dots can critt
- A geared and ready lock is super strong in Wpvp
- Curse and banes
- A lot of utility and
- Cool specs all around
- Unkillable and powerhouses
- Loved in raids
- Cool class fantasy
Cons
- Dots that critt dont feel the same as a Aimed shot or a backstab critt
- Playing ally so UD break fear and all Orcs have a cloak of shadows agains me
- Soulstones not stacking

Mage
Pros
- S or A tier in most aspects of the game
- Great utility
- Always needed
- Portals
Cons
- Easy to global if no barrier/block
- Super squishy
- Have to be 100% dialed to not get gloabled
- Every rotation is bind to scroll wheel and watch second monitor
- A uncool cabal (Lock is the cool cabal)

Priest/druid d
on´t tickle my fancy

at 42:25. "We've made AV a less lucrative for honor, while other BGs have been increased."

Thoughts? AV spammers, is the dream dead?

Are AV AFKer's destroyed now?

BIG HUGE WIN for solo players, damn good.

edit : problem fixed for those afraid of Russians premades ;)

edit 2 : "small groups 2-3 are not considered premades." which means small friends groups can still queue together.