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u/f1shb01 2d ago
All gender differences should be like Pokemon where you only have an extra stripe or something
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u/TemporarilyResolute 2d ago
This and there should be a gender mint that adds or removes the extra stripe permanently
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u/Cole_A226 2d ago
Most gender differences in animals are like that
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u/Amaright1 2d ago
I disagree
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u/Cole_A226 2d ago
Okay?
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u/PossibleAvocado2199 2d ago
Wait, since bugs are the most diverse animals, they are correct in a way, by species count
Also birds have prominent gender dimorphism
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u/Abi_Uchiha 1d ago
they literally said animals btw
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u/WalmartWilb 1d ago
Wtf do you think insects are??? 😭😭😭 bacteria???
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u/Abi_Uchiha 1d ago
Insects are insects lol
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u/WalmartWilb 1d ago
Insects are a class of ANIMAL. Literally one Google search is all it takes dawg
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u/Abi_Uchiha 1d ago
I already searched it. Animalia is such a broad term and it's never gonna make a person factory in all it's branches when one says Animals.
For me, It's just an inefficient word with technicality.
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u/Amaright1 2d ago
👍
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u/Cole_A226 2d ago
If you don't mind me asking why do you disagree?
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u/Amaright1 2d ago
Because most animals have more gender differences than just a stripe or a extra horn like Pokémon.
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u/YogurtclosetSame5198 1d ago
Uh, it’s very much a fact that most animals(including birds, mammals, reptiles, and insects(biggest one)) have pretty distinct differences between sexes.
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u/Snoo_91660 2d ago
Or just not have disphoria be a thing that people struggle with
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u/LiquidLad12 2d ago
No... No. People should still struggle and suffer for no reason, builds character. Not me though, I'm uh- I'm sick that day.
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u/BasicallyAlto 2d ago
Imagine being a human with gender dysphoria id fucking k
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u/Waffle-Gaming Bug 2d ago
noooo dont kys your so sexy aha
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u/Anonpancake2123 1d ago
Too late, the reddit sniper got them.
Plot twist, the sniper is themselves.
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u/Fair_Woodpecker_6940 2d ago
True gender dysphoria is the best method to get somebody to end their life lol. I can't tell you how often I think about killing myself over being born as my sex.
The worst part about it is that you can't escape it. When you wake up, your gender is there. When you eat, your gender is there. When you sleep, your gender is there. Even the things that make you happy remind you of your gender. The only real out is transitioning or learning how to cope with being stuck in your sex, and the latter feels like trying to live with the mental equivalent of somebody punching you in the kidney over and over. ಥ_ಥ
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u/YoKaiHunter76 1d ago
The latter is impossible. Transitioning is the only proven way to negate or significantly lessen gender dysphoria.
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u/Tactical_Pizzas 1d ago
Yeah I’m getting close to it. I’m taller than the majority of women and I’m a baritone. I think I’ll do it chat, not even HRT can save me.
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u/Fair_Woodpecker_6940 2d ago
I've actually tried to get a grip in a multitude of ways, but this issue is resistant to basically every form of treatment for some reason. I dunno why. Went to the psychiatrist and got on antidepressants. Poking a chemical stick into my brain fixed the depression I went to complain about, but it didn't do anything for this issue. Then I switched to antipsychotics for unrelated reasons, and the medications from that class didn't work either. I've tried to cope and fix myself every way imaginable, but literally nothing works. At best, it goes away for a couple of days then returns 20x worse than before. Everything I try is like pouring water on a hydrophobic surface.
My depression is pretty mild nowadays because of my efforts, and my anxiety + paranoia are 95% gone, but this issue is still 102% there with a 2% margin of error. It's like my neurosis around my gender branches from a separate, more fundamental part of my brain. I would literally cut off my leg with a hacksaw if it got rid of my desire to be the opposite gender.
A large part of me has accepted that I probably just suffer from gender dysphoria, a problem with no known cure besides transitioning, so I treat it like some kind of pain condition.
To draw a comparison, my little sister suddenly died when I was a youngin in middle school, and the feeling that my stupid brain decides to generate over my gender is comparable to the grief I experienced in the weeks after her death. I genuinely don't know why my neurotransmitters decide to go haywire when I think about my gonads, but I suppose that mental illness doesn't abide by logic lol.
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u/ricrol_music 1d ago
Yes, because fair woodpecker would obviously come to beetleapartment for charity. They aren’t asking you for anything. You just want to attack someone to make yourself feel better temporarily.
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u/TemporarilyResolute 2d ago
As a 6’3 man with dysphoria (I don’t even bother calling myself trans lol) this is how I feel
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u/Dodo_Druid_Dude 2d ago
why dont you bother calling yourself trans if i may ask?
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u/Tiny-Little-Sheep 2d ago
Closeted people do that to avoid the pain of calling themselves a woman and seeing the mismatch. I did the same in the past until I took steps towards being a woman
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u/TemporarilyResolute 2d ago
Yeah pretty much, I remember when I picked a girl name I would have liked to have had I was happy for 10 minutes till I saw myself in a mirror and fell into despair
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u/LegendaryThunderFish 2d ago
The right ppl would gladly call you by any name you chose and treat you with kindness regardless of appearances
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u/Tiny-Little-Sheep 2d ago
This is why you avoid mirrors until you're able to improve your appearance. I'm sure you'll get there eventually. Keep fighting
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u/A_Firm_Sandwich 2d ago
Highkey even when you’re able to improve your appearance just avoid mirrors for a good bit. Give it some time, for your own sanity
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u/DetailedSycamoreTree 2d ago
There is still time, there is always time.
edit: saw ur taking hrt, happy for you and it will get better!1
u/LancerStoolForme 2d ago
Repressing your feelings will not help you, if deep down you know you are trans, denying to be the way that makes you happier will make you suffer more in the long run. Being 6'3 and being a woman are not mutually exclusive!
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u/TemporarilyResolute 2d ago
There’s no practical purposes to doing that. I’m taking HRT privately but internally I’m a man and externally I’m a man and that will never change so there’s no real reason to give myself hope in a feminine identity. The HRT hasn’t eliminated dysphoria yet but apparently just taking it makes it better so I’ll get back to you in a few months
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u/Dodo_Druid_Dude 2d ago
hrt will help a lot, speaking from experience. hope the dysphoria improves quick and that you see results soon <3
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u/JennybotXJ9 2d ago
Even now after taking HRT for a year, I am hesitant to call myself a woman. It feels like I haven't earned the "right" to do so yet. It gets better all the time. All my friends call me a female name, use female pronouns. I'm phasing out all my clothes to gender neutral or femme options.
As I type this I just went to my second electrolysis treatment to remove my facial hair.
I may not call myself a woman yet, but every month, week, day, hour, I feel closer. It gets better. I am sending you positive energy, and I wish you success on your gender journey. If you ever need some girls to hang out with who won't treat you like a man, hmu, I have some pretty cool friends.
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u/Tiny-Little-Sheep 2d ago
The pain you're feeling is because internally you're female who has been beaten down. You just started hrt. It won't fix the outside (it might idk. Depends on your genetics) but it will stabilize your inside a bit. Give it time and don't rush. It will get better. Trust
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u/dumpylump69 2d ago
It’s not over you could slay as a super tall girl
Even if it’s rare, it’s far from impossible for cis women to be 6’3
There’s hope for you yet
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u/imonlyhumanafteral1 2d ago
Im gonna be honest, denying yourself that (especially just on the basis of being tall) is going to hurt you more than acknowledging it, i get the feeling of burying everything, but when it eventually does surface, it makes it so much worse.
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u/TotallyObviousBot 2d ago
Being supportive of gender identity also means respecting that you shouldn't tell strangers what's best for their mental health regarding their gender identity
As somebody in a similar position to the OP you're responding to, I don't really enjoy the forced positivity and constant comments about "there's always hope" as if I can't live however I choose; to the point that I simply don't discuss it ever, which certainly doesn't help the mental health aspect
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u/imonlyhumanafteral1 2d ago edited 1d ago
You absolutly can choose to live as you wnat and choose to never talk about ,that doesnt mean that never talking about your mental health isnt going to be bad for you. Im not gonna misgender them, if they eanna be called a man and go by he/him i will by all means follow that, but i can advise them that denying themselves something they want, especially from the inside, is not good mental health move
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u/slugsred 1d ago
maybe they don't want all the trouble it comes with, you never know
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u/SpeedyMewtwo 1d ago
Issue I have with this train of thought is that gender dysphoria never goes away. You just repress it and it gets worse over time.
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u/slugsred 23h ago
Thats quite the claim.
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u/SpeedyMewtwo 20h ago
Speaking from experience. I mean just ask any trans person who repressed for years
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u/slugsred 20h ago
You're saying no person with gender dysphoria has ever been happy by accepting their assigned gender.
I'm not sure I believe that.
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u/SpeedyMewtwo 20h ago
I don’t think I said every person applies but pretty much all trans people do. If you describe yourself as trans and have gender dysphoria you should probably do something about it or at least go to a therapist or something.
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u/TemporarilyResolute 2d ago
I'm taking HRT I'm just doing that as like, a compromise with myself while still living as a man and calling myself a man internally
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u/New_Examination200 2d ago
I don't say this to be dismissive of your dysphoria, I 100% understand how difficult that is to deal with, but you can still be a tall woman. Tons of women are tall, and they still look perfectly fine.
Do you know Gwendolyn Christie from GoT? She's 6'3 as well and she looks great imo. Sigourney Weaver from the Alien movies is like 6' too. There's a lot of other examples and sometimes it's helpful to see them and remember all the different ways people can look while still being perceived as the correct gender. I understand how hopeless it can feel sometimes, but please don't give up on yourself.
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u/scrufflor_d 2d ago
i’ve actually thought about this. it’s relatively convenient that the only species that can have gender dysphoria has barely any sexual dimorphism
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u/IAMTR4SHMAN 2d ago
Imagine how nuts dysphoria would be if we had the same level of sexual dimorphism of a blanket octopus 💀
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u/DeadAndBuried23 2d ago
On the flip side, maybe it's incredibly inconvenient that no other species can adequately voice it.
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u/ITriedSoHard419-68 2d ago
I mean, do we know for certain other species can’t have gender dysphoria? They can’t exactly tell us. Most couldn’t exactly do anything observable about it either.
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u/chickensthat 1d ago
look at the mirror test most species dont think about their own body so they cant be hit with the mismatch
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u/ITriedSoHard419-68 1d ago
Most don’t, but several species have in fact passed the mirror test. I’d think those species would possess the self-awareness and sense of identity to potentially experience dysphoria, especially as most of those species are highly social.
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u/Silver_Original6076 1d ago
Technically all mammals can experience the hormonal and neurological sex mismatch that causes gender dysphoria in humans, however humans are the only mammals with brains complex enough to translate that biological mismatch into distress. Other animals can't conceptualize gender and aren't capable of the deep self reflection that's required to compare their sense of self to their physical body.
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u/ITriedSoHard419-68 1d ago
That does make sense. I'm not sure we can be definitively sure no other species are capable of a high enough level of self-reflection, though. Perhaps not on the level of humans, not to the same severity as humans, but we're still learning about how other species' brains and thought processes actually work, and have been known to severely underestimate their capacities in the past. I can't say anything with any certainty, but I don't think the possibility should be completely discounted.
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u/chickensthat 1d ago
do any of those have a strong enough sense of identity though?
also fun fact chickens can be ftm if something happens to their ovary the other can HRT them with testosterone
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u/throwaway98919143 2d ago
Well, because gender dysphoria is primarily a social issue and not a biological one. If there are animal societies that ostracize certain figures for not acting in line with the perceived gender, I would imagine they're closer to incels than trans people, if that makes sense. A female X won't want to breed with a male X because the male has less characteristically male features; I don't think the X, however intelligent, may then elect to become more masculine to account for the dysphoria (if it can be called dysphoria) -- in all likelihood, he just doesn't get a mate.
The images animals have of themselves aren't comparable to the images we have of ourselves. We can contemplate in ways animals can't. Our lives extend beyond our immediate activity and into the whole sphere of reality. Gender dysphoria, as we understand it, is a uniquely human problem that results from some level of irrational stratification (into gender roles) in a species that is becoming more and more rational by the day, in a species that has the ability to question and to answer. Without that, I'm not sure gender dysphoria can exist.
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u/tFemby 2d ago
not a biological one.
It quite literally is a neurological intersex condition. It's not just "I wanna wear dresses and be called a woman". It's painful mismatch between your body, and how your brain expects you to look, sound and act.
Sexually dimorphic amimals could easily feel the same about their body if they have a similar disorder. Though I assume bugs don't have complex feelings to actually understand it. It might be just some vague distress.
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u/GlitteringTone6425 2d ago
hi... nonbinary person here. could you please explain why the human mind has a preset for expecting to be sexes that don't exist? or not wanting to be those at all? or feeling more comfortable when your presentation is purposefully ambiguous or confusing? thx. please explain the biological component of someone being trigender demimavrique-libraflux-autigender (or any other hyper specific medley of labels REAL PEOPLE use i could pull out of my ass right now).
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u/Karina_Pluto 2d ago
I think that just like the body can be neither completely male nor female (as in intersex people) so can the brain, which is very complex on its own anyway. The brain might feel like being a man or a woman doesn't fit, and the person will look for other words to describe their identity and experience.
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u/tFemby 2d ago
Exactly this. I didn't mean to invalidate all the non-binary identities. The brain is the messiest body part. Hell even binary trans brains are between male and female when their sexually dymorphic parts are observed.
The biggest difference between enbies and binary trans people is dysphoria, and the longing for the body of the opposite sex.
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u/IAMTR4SHMAN 2d ago
Considering how I’m making a project all about anthropomorphic bug people? This is a topic I would like to tackle at some point, like how the hell would velvet ants and trilobite needles handle gender dysmorphia?
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u/charwyrm 2d ago
Cultural stuff prolly. There's a variety of third genders even in human cultures. It would make sense for them to serve a different role in the colony than cisgender individuals. Cosmetic surgeries, body paint, clothing, etc. all could contribute to visually distinct identity. Trans joy can be about overcoming the idea that a body is destined to do a certain thing.
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u/MmeScutigere 1d ago
Pheremones would be a huge thing for a lot of species! It would be a lot more important than appearance for some. Scolopendras (giant centipedes) are generally androgynous to the degree where you need to perform an invasive exam that requires sedation to know their sex (there are a few that are visibly dimorphic due to patterns, but these are the exception rather than the norm). They aren't androgynous to each other, though, because they're essentially blind and identify mates through scent. Most myriapods are blind or only see light and wouldn't really wouldn't consider passing visually even with human intelligence.
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u/Cyan_Exponent 2d ago
Don't bugs change their shells regularly? Maybe they actually can transform into another body. Probably won't shrink though.
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u/MmeScutigere 2d ago
Winged bugs generally don't at this stage of their life! Myriapods and arachnids do though.
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u/SeaSlugFriend Bug 2d ago