r/baseball • California Angels • Dec 14 '17

Feature/Trigger Warning RESULTS: Official /r/Baseball Mock 2018 Hall of Fame Voting

Hi /r/baseball,

Following up with the thread originally posted here, these are the results of the /r/baseball Mock Hall of Fame Voting! Last year, /r/baseball actually got fewer people elected on the standard ballot than the BBWAA (only Bagwell vs Bagwell/Rodriguez/Raines). And I should note that of course there will be troll votes and I can't really do too much about it if there were, but for the most part everything seemed fine. So here we go:

Standard Ballot Results (1,917 Responses)

Name Votes Percent Result
Chipper Jones 1715 89.5% Elected
Vladimir Guerrero 1586 82.7% Elected
Jim Thome 1406 73.3% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Edgar Martinez 1385 72.2% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Barry Bonds 1274 66.5% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Roger Clemens 1177 61.4% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Trevor Hoffman 1170 61.0% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Mike Mussina 1106 57.7% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Curt Schilling 977 51.0% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Larry Walker 743 38.8% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Manny Ramirez 624 32.6% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Andruw Jones 434 22.6% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Scott Rolen 415 21.6% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Sammy Sosa 372 19.4% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Omar Vizquel 369 19.2% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Billy Wagner 351 18.3% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Johan Santana 316 16.5% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Fred McGriff 274 14.3% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Gary Sheffield 238 12.4% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Hideki Matsui 205 10.7% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Jeff Kent 203 10.6% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Jamie Moyer 127 6.6% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Johnny Damon 110 5.7% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Chris Carpenter 92 4.8% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot
Kerry Wood 60 3.1% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot
Carlos Zambrano 29 1.5% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot
Livan Hernandez 25 1.3% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot
Brad Lidge 23 1.2% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot
Carlos Lee 17 0.9% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot
Orlando Hudson 12 0.6% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot
Jason Isringhausen 11 0.6% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot
Aubrey Huff 9 0.5% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot
Kevin Millwood 5 0.3% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot

Chipper Jones as expected is elected, but surprisingly only Vladimir Guerrero joins him as being elected. Thome misses election by about 30 votes and Martinez misses by about 60. My personal guess is that 3 or 4 people get voted in this year by the BBWAA, so this result is a little disappointing

Unlimited Ballot (451 Responses)

Name Votes Percent Result
Chipper Jones 435 96.5% Elected
Vladimir Guerrero 427 94.7% Elected
Jim Thome 425 94.2% Elected
Edgar Martinez 418 92.7% Elected
Mike Mussina 400 88.7% Elected
Trevor Hoffman 384 85.1% Elected
Barry Bonds 376 83.4% Elected
Roger Clemens 368 81.6% Elected
Curt Schilling 353 78.3% Elected
Larry Walker 346 76.7% Elected
Manny Ramirez 294 65.2% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Billy Wagner 275 61.0% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Scott Rolen 275 61.0% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Andruw Jones 266 59.0% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Sammy Sosa 227 50.3% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Omar Vizquel 220 48.8% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Johan Santana 218 48.3% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Fred McGriff 215 47.7% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Gary Sheffield 206 45.7% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Jeff Kent 187 41.5% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Jamie Moyer 88 19.5% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Hideki Matsui 72 16.0% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Johnny Damon 58 12.9% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Kerry Wood 34 7.5% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Chris Carpenter 33 7.3% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Brad Lidge 26 5.8% Not Elected - Remains on Ballot
Carlos Zambrano 20 4.4% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot
Livan Hernandez 18 4.0% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot
Orlando Hudson 18 4.0% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot
Aubrey Huff 15 3.3% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot
Jason Isringhausen 14 3.1% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot
Carlos Lee 13 2.9% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot
Kevin Millwood 6 1.3% Not Elected - Falls Off Ballot

10 Hall of Famers! I'd note the sample as smaller and even more self-selecting as the standard one.

Thank you for all of those who voted!

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u/SoupyDumps Boston Red Sox Dec 14 '17

Smoltz is better on ERA+ and WAR. So, yeah that's my point. Also, anybody old enough to remember would know why Glavine is in. 10 year long stretch pitching to a 136 ERA+ and winning 2 Cy Youngs? Clearly beats anything Moose accomplished in his career. That would get ignored on this sub - where baseball happens on a spreadsheet and everyone is 14

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u/testudofaps Baltimore Orioles Dec 14 '17

Mussina has more WAR and was clearly the most deserving of the Cy Young in 2001. Glavine shouldn't have won in 1998.

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u/SoupyDumps Boston Red Sox Dec 14 '17

Mussina has more total WAR because he wasn't made a reliever for four seasons in the middle of his prime. WAR per season as a starter? No. Also, I like your use of the 'ol "I have no other valid points to offer, so instead I will revise history and claim he deserves an award he does not."

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u/testudofaps Baltimore Orioles Dec 14 '17

Mussina still has more WAR as a starter per season as a starter. Nice try though.

And it's not revisionist history to say that stats show Mussina was the best in the league as often as Glavine.

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u/SoupyDumps Boston Red Sox Dec 14 '17

That's true. I wouldn't have expected that Moose was better year to year than Smoltz. I stand by what I said though and the votes are reflecting it. I still think Moose gets in and that most of the complaints about his waiting aren't valid. Pitchers without Cy Youngs or crazy counting stats wait. It's the way it usually goes.

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u/testudofaps Baltimore Orioles Dec 14 '17

I understand. Voters have their tendencies. I just had to defend Moose compared to Glavine and Smoltz. It's fine if you'd pick them over Moose but to suggest that one must be biased to pick Moose was odd.

And stop calling the Yankee fan dumb using Maryland insults.

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u/SoupyDumps Boston Red Sox Dec 14 '17

Wasn't that a Baltimore guy? I think it's the same guy spamming my inbox with insults thinking I can't report those because they aren't public. He's a dick and can spin.

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