r/baseball • u/Marzipan_Dream_7389 Toronto Blue Jays • Sep 03 '26
Players Only [PTFO] Following his year-long investigative report into the Los Angeles Clippers’ salary cap circumvention efforts around Kawhi Leonard, Pablo Torre reveals that he will be investigating Mark Walter and the Los Angeles Dodgers for his next series
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u/DaOldest Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 03 '26
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u/UraniumDisulfide Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 03 '26
But this is my billionaire, my billionaire wouldn't do anything wrong because they own the team I root for
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u/captain_ahabb Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 03 '26
Oh Mark did very wrong. I'm not sure how it can affect the team though (other than him being forced to sell I guess)
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u/Necessary-Peach-0 San Diego Padres • Boston Red Sox Sep 04 '26
If he’s forced to sell Shohei can walk right
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u/pr1ncejeffie New York Mets Sep 04 '26
Oh yes... My billionaire already got in trouble so there's nothing to see Pablo... Don't look at the Knicks or Mets!!!! Actually Dolan can go
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u/LoquaciousTheBorg New York Mets Sep 04 '26
As a fan of both of those teams myself, I totally understand Cohen but was very confused by someone feeling protective of Dolan. Justice for Oak!
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u/BMECaboose American League Sep 04 '26
However much Dolan gets booed by the people of NY will never be enough.
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u/Iwantmoretime Cleveland Guardians Sep 04 '26
You've been banned from MSG.
If you feel this was done in error, no need to appeal, MSG team members know where to find you and will reach out.
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u/CalebosO4 Toronto Blue Jays Sep 04 '26
If it's like the Clippers, this means the Dodgers trade Shohei to us then right?
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u/captain_ahabb Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 04 '26
Yes (not that I think he would)
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u/fender-b-bender Chicago Cubs Sep 04 '26
Yeah, Friedman leaving is probably the whole reason for the clause and not ownership. Ownership is going to spend, just because they can afford to even if it changes hand. Getting a guy like Friedman is much, much harder
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u/EBtwopoint3 Sep 04 '26
I mean ownership isn’t necessarily going to spend. Looks at the Rickett’s. We’re 26th in salary to revenue ratio at 36%. We could absolutely spend more, but we don’t.
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u/tonysnark81 Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 04 '26
I believe he has already said he won’t exercise the opt-out clause if anything happens.
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u/HoneyBadgerM400Edit Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 04 '26
Stan Kroenke is kicking himself right now that he didnt wait 1 more week before announcing which LA MLB team he was buying.
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u/YasielPuigsWeed Sep 04 '26
27% of the Dodgers with no real estate around it to develop vs 100% of the Angels with a shit ton of real estate around to develop
Given how Stan Kroenke makes moves I think the Angels would be more appealing for his aims either way
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u/harlansloth Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 03 '26
It’s fine. I’m sure he’ll simply let everyone know that Walter did nothing wrong and the FBI is just being super lame and annoying.
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u/DaOldest Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 03 '26
If we did some shady shit, throw the book at us. It would be hypocritical to rag on the Astros for this long only to plug our ears the second things turn back around on us
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u/Marzipan_Dream_7389 Toronto Blue Jays Sep 04 '26
I respect the hell out of this, genuinely
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u/DaOldest Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 04 '26
Letting powerful people get away with things because "they're on my side" is how the world becomes a bad place
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u/MogMcKupo San Diego Padres • Nashville Sounds Sep 04 '26
became
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u/ThinkSoftware Atlanta Braves Sep 04 '26
We didn’t start the fire
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u/willpc14 New York Yankees • Philadelphia Phillies Sep 04 '26
We didn't, but the way our government is trying to hide that jerry can of diesel and pack of matches is awfully suspicious.
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u/AnnetteBishop San Diego Padres Sep 04 '26
Giants, Dodges, and Padres fans agreeing. Yeah, end of the world type stuff unless it was the late 90s again and the topic was the Braves.
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u/May_die San Francisco Giants Sep 04 '26
Amen. Something I'll happily agree with a Dodgers fan about
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u/doublegoldendragon Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 04 '26
There will always be those of us, regardless of fanbase, who refuse to accept terrible things just because it was "our side" that did them
Unfortunately, there are also many who don't care. Case in point: there are still Cleveland Browns fans
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u/May_die San Francisco Giants Sep 04 '26
I'm barely a Giants fan at this point after the Pride debacle and how horribly the front office botched the PR. I still love the team from my hometown, but I refuse to buy any merch or tickets
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u/elementofpee Seattle Mariners Sep 04 '26
If you ever want to run for office you’ll have my vote. Holding people accountable regardless of political affiliation - that’s integrity that’s sadly missing nowadays.
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u/Quiet_Quasar Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 04 '26
There was that time the Dodgers were investigated for human trafficking and almost got RICO'd. It seems that nothing came of it though.
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-dodgers-might-be-in-actual-legal-trouble/
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u/wRADKyrabbit Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 04 '26
You just know our subreddit is gonna leap all over that hypocrisy lol
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u/pargofan Los Angeles Dodgers • World Series Tr… Sep 04 '26
Same here.
But I just can't imagine what though. Baseball doesn't have a salary cap. Sure, there's a luxury tax, but Walter seems fine to just pay it.
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u/Newt_Jumpy Sep 04 '26
Mark Walter did nothing wrong. Mark Walter's interpreter stole the insurance money without telling Mark.
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u/LosAngeles1s Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 03 '26
our billionaire is the only good billionaire. No one else is
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u/XSC Philadelphia Phillies Sep 04 '26
Holy shit that’s an OLD meme
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u/CricketNo7950 Sep 04 '26
A good old proper.meme framing and text too. Love it
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u/philocity Seattle Mariners Sep 04 '26 edited Sep 04 '26
I believe those were the next evolution from demotivationals, which were themselves a rebellion to the even older motivational posters (which I wouldn’t consider memes), ex:
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u/peanutmanak47 Florida Marlins Sep 04 '26
I've been around for a long time and I don't think I've ever seen this one. It's a good one.
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u/PM_YOUR_SMALLBOOBIES Los Angeles Angels Sep 04 '26
I'm transported back to scrolling iFunny on the bus home from middle school
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u/mosi_moose Boston Red Sox Sep 03 '26
He does good work. Can’t wait.
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u/Peripatetictyl MLB Pride Sep 04 '26
So crazy remembering many years ago Pablo showing up on Around the Horn as a young pundit, and hanging really well with the ‘old guard’. Now, I’m here with full attention and support for however many corrupt billionaire owners, or anything’s, that he can expose!
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u/philphan25 Philadelphia Phillies • Philadelphia Phillies Sep 04 '26
Man went from "Alex Smith, Man" to taking down sports franchises.
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1g1yh9GA9s
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u/Introverted_Extrovrt Washington Nationals Sep 04 '26
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u/unclefitzy New York Yankees Sep 04 '26
Wait - is the woman Mina?
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u/Introverted_Extrovrt Washington Nationals Sep 04 '26
It’s great right. Her zipline bit still makes me chuckle
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u/Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu11 Cleveland Guardians Sep 04 '26
If a billionaire is getting punished, it’s always a good day.
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u/thirtyseven1337 New York Mets Sep 04 '26
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u/illseeyouinthefog New York Mets Sep 04 '26 edited Sep 04 '26
A defining moment of my lifelong delusional optimism and arrogance when it comes to my atrocious sports franchises.
Edit: Just watched the interview twice. I went to all three road playoff games that year. Sigh. Good times. ish.
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u/papsmearfestival Toronto Blue Jays Sep 04 '26
He wouldn't announce SHIT if he didn't already know. The investigation is done.
“Feel that, Randy?... The way the shit clings to the air, Randy? It's already started, my dear good friend... the shit-blizzard”.
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u/doyouevensunbro Philadelphia Phillies Sep 04 '26
He’s not a Republic serial villain. He completed the investigation thirty-five minutes ago.
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u/Thornton__Melon Houston Astros Sep 03 '26
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u/harlansloth Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 04 '26
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u/CynCity323 Los Angeles Dodgers • San Francisco Giants Sep 04 '26
You know better than anyone there's no real consequences in baseball.
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u/IAmNotKevinDurant_35 San Francisco Giants Sep 04 '26
Judging by your flair, clearly not. Otherwise you would be in prison by now
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u/dan_144 Atlanta Braves Sep 04 '26
Bro just needs to assault himself in a parking lot and we'll know the flair is legit
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u/harrw626 World Series Trophy • Los Angeles Dod… Sep 04 '26
what kind of flair is this
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u/mosi_moose Boston Red Sox Sep 04 '26 edited Sep 04 '26
It’s worse than this and that’s saying something.
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u/Putrid_Dream9755 Toronto Blue Jays Sep 03 '26
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u/steroid57 New York Yankees Sep 04 '26
His investigation is going to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Dodgers figured out mind control technology and are responsible for the IKF 3rd base lead in game 7
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u/Dazzling_Survey6841 Toronto Blue Jays Sep 04 '26
They put duct tape on the back wall. You know it. I know it. Everybody knows it.
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u/Electric_Queen Chicago White Sox • Durham Bulls Sep 04 '26
The Dodgers were on the grassy knoll
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u/NoImNotHeretoArgue Sep 04 '26
Except he says it before he does it. So he’s about to get a ‘cap circumvention’ himself
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u/unsellingllama Milwaukee Brewers Sep 03 '26
Genuinely no clue why Mods keep taking this down. This is a pretty big update directly related to one of the MLB's top teams
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u/Marzipan_Dream_7389 Toronto Blue Jays Sep 03 '26
I think it’s bc ppl keep posting Twitter screenshots. I made sure to get mine from Instagram to make sure it doesn’t get taken down.
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u/GuyaneseRumFan123 Philadelphia Phillies Sep 04 '26
Another OP posted a Twitter screenshot, that got removed, they posted this screenshot, and it got removed.
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u/Marzipan_Dream_7389 Toronto Blue Jays Sep 04 '26
Then I’ll post the episode tomorrow when it airs. They can’t suppress it forever.
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u/FUBARded Swinging K Sep 04 '26
I doubt the mods are intentionally suppressing it.
It's probably being mass reported by rubes and the sub's automod or even Reddit itself could be automatically taking it down.
There are many examples of people jumping straight to collusion/coverup conspiracies when this is the actual explanation when posts about a controversial/sensational topic keep getting deleted.
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u/knowtoriusMAC New York Mets Sep 04 '26
The mods don't allow Twitter screenshots because the egotistical billionaire who's directly contributing to the downfall of society who owns it.
So you have to find a social media post from a site owned by Mark Zuckerberg instead.
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u/K20BB5 Philadelphia Phillies Sep 04 '26
Wait till you guys find out who owns the servers this site runs on
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u/LacklusteHero Detroit Tigers Sep 04 '26
So glad that this is happening before the CBA negotiations really get going, because this could have huge implications.
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u/zzxxzzxxzz Seattle Mariners • San Francisco Giants Sep 04 '26
A robust journalism industry is tied to curtailing the power of billionaires and enhancing the power of labor ✊😌
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u/AdoringCHIN Anaheim Angels • Rocket City Tra… Sep 04 '26
Which is exactly why billionaires have been buying every news outlet they can.
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u/ylscjake San Francisco Giants • Boston Red Sox Sep 04 '26
And turning them into subscription services so everything is behind a paywall
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u/royalewithcheese51 Pittsburgh Pirates Sep 04 '26
And the "everything" is mostly just garbage that isn't real reporting.
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u/brett_baty_is_him Sep 04 '26
This type of investigative journalism will likely longer than the CBA negotiations take. I’d be shocked if he comes out with anything by May of next year
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u/Segagenesis23 Anaheim Angels Sep 03 '26
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u/xho- New York Yankees Sep 04 '26
Arte sells and now the dodgers ownership is in disarray.
Who would’ve thunk
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u/Popular_Rest6944 Sep 04 '26
Being a Tigers fan is like face planting on cement like every day.
But watching every single LA fan being screwed over by Mark will be the greatest gift I can ever think of.
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u/FileHot6525 Cincinnati Reds Sep 04 '26
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u/I_Am_Guy_Uh San Diego Padres Sep 04 '26
The face you make when your 4 leg parlay hits at the last second
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u/ntstockman New York Mets Sep 03 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/iSKFtpF2HzneE
Excellent
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u/Caius01 New York Yankees Sep 03 '26
Something all NY baseball fans can agree on
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u/ntstockman New York Mets Sep 04 '26
Nothing to see here Pablo, no need to look!
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u/Weird_Wuss New York Mets Sep 04 '26
he can look at the mets tbh. good thing he went and announced he had nothing on the knicks tho cus he might have actually gotten assassinated
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u/ihatetheplaceilive Milwaukee Brewers Sep 04 '26
Pretty sure it's 29/30 of mlb team fans agree with this.
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u/yoodle Sep 04 '26
Those of us in LA that resent the team for cowing to the white house would agree as well
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u/FirstV1 Toronto Blue Jays Sep 04 '26
Me rn
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u/IncaseAce Kansas City Royals • Oklahoma City Com… Sep 04 '26
Put those grippers away
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u/aresef MLB Players Association Sep 04 '26
This emoji weirds me out. Emojis shouldn’t have dogs out
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u/Shrimptanks Sep 04 '26
He is legitimately gonna get a hit on his head by going after all these billionaires.
The balls on this man
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u/courageous_liquid Philadelphia Phillies Sep 04 '26
it's the Panama papers but with implications a guy sitting on a couch can easily comprehend.
and he'll make the always sunny joke. but he'll also understand the implications. that these odious criminals are running amok.
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u/SignalDragonfly690 Tampa Bay Rays Sep 04 '26
Good. I know this is mainly on baseball but I fear for the impact on the PWHL since it’s a new league that’s growing rapidly mainly thanks to his money.
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u/JDraks Detroit Tigers Sep 04 '26
Hopefully people like the Illitches can take over the PWHL if Walters goes down
It'd be very Detroit luck for Michigan to finally get women's hockey above high school and then the entire league collapses though
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u/imightbehitler New York Yankees Sep 03 '26
Pablo's needs to be made out of kevlar if he keeps investigating billionaires
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u/papsmearfestival Toronto Blue Jays Sep 04 '26
Upcoming Pablo "I'm NOT suicidal, I love my life" post.
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u/Oafah Toronto Blue Jays Sep 04 '26
The Clippers were fined $30m, lost their next 5 first round draft picks, and had their owner and president banned for a year.
This looks really bad for baseball and their slap on the sack for the Astros cheating.
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u/OSRS_Socks Atlanta Braves Sep 04 '26
Tbf, Astros got of real easy due to the old CBA before it was fixed in 22. The current CBA is a lot worse for players found to be cheating that way and fixed how the MLB can handle meeting with the players. The old CBA made it very hard for the MLB to do anything. They basically had to give all their evidence to the player and the player and his lawyer determined if it was enough for a meeting and they could easily say “Nah, that’s not enough. Please get more before you call me in.” And they could do that on and on. If a player came out and said “these guys were cheating.” Every player involved would know who it was when they got the evidence because they made it a requirement to not block out the name.
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u/the_dayman623 St. Louis Cardinals Sep 03 '26
Mods must be dodgers fans how many times this has been deleted
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u/thediecast Houston Astros Sep 04 '26
I mean law of averages will explain that. They’re one of the bigger fan bases. There’s got to be multiple mods that are Yankees and dodgers fans. And I’m not saying that as a negative thing it’s just the odds a favor that.
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u/Jux_ Los Angeles Dodgers • Jackie Robinson Sep 04 '26
They were all just screenshots of his Twitter post, people should have learned by now that those will get nuked no matter what it is
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u/Aurion7 Atlanta Braves Sep 04 '26
Walter's level of alleged financial malfeasance is going to make the Clippers' circumvention of the NBA salary cap seem very small, if Torre manages to really get into it.
For lack of a better way to put it, Mark Walter's been playing with real money not pro sports team level money.
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u/Introverted_Extrovrt Washington Nationals Sep 04 '26 edited Sep 04 '26
It’s already gotten out there into the ether a bit hasn’t it? Him robbing Peter to pay Paul using insurance companies he owns to fund other things, which is a huge SEC/surety/fiduciary no-no?
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u/RichAbbreviations966 Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 04 '26
Oh yeah no dodgers are fine, he’s possibly going to jail
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u/Jedi-El1823 New York Yankees Sep 04 '26
And Pablo went after Steve fucking Ballmer, who's worth a lot more than Walter. He wasn't afraid of Ballmer.
Walter's in deep deep shit.
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u/KurtVonnebeergut Los Angeles Angels Sep 03 '26
Ohtani retirement incoming?
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u/LevelParsnip Sep 04 '26
He is on a plane to Toronto as we speak
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u/Marzipan_Dream_7389 Toronto Blue Jays Sep 04 '26
I mean, we got Kawhi back after the last Pablo Torre investigation…it’s sticking with tradition at this point…
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u/roguerunner1 San Francisco Giants Sep 03 '26
Wanna bet?
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u/Marzipan_Dream_7389 Toronto Blue Jays Sep 04 '26
DID SOMEONE SAY BET?
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u/breakinglate Toronto Blue Jays Sep 03 '26
Jays being awarded the World Series
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u/YasielPuigsWeed Sep 04 '26
This sub is going to be interesting tomorrow because so many people are going to go into it with their narrative already in their head and probably not even listen to the podcast (or listen passively) then come here and comment their narrative even though it won’t align with the actual investigation
That’s been the dialogue around this situation the whole time. Unlike the Clippers, this has been a federal investigation so there’s more existing documentation people can look at. Right now it basically shows the Dodgers were empowering Walter’s loan business, not the loan business empowering the Dodgers.
What I’m interested in from Pablo is what info he can get from insiders that we don’t currently have
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u/pargofan Los Angeles Dodgers • World Series Tr… Sep 04 '26
What I’m interested in from Pablo is what info he can get from insiders that we don’t currently have
I'm gonna call it.
I bet the podcast is merely a summary of everything that's already out there. Which is a shitload of stuff. But nothing we don't already know.
Because there's ongoing government investigations. And they don't want anything leaked which isn't public (for obvious reasons).
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u/YasielPuigsWeed Sep 04 '26
I wouldn’t be surprised tbh, which would still be fine. Some people need information digested for them and passed along cleanly by someone credible.
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u/Money-Giraffe2521 Chicago White Sox • San Diego Padres Sep 03 '26
I’m going to laugh my ass off if it turns out that Ippei was the fall guy.
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u/AssBurgersInParadise Sep 04 '26
I would bet (no pun intended) that it has to do with Mark Walters and his ongoing insurance issues, but boy would that be something.
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u/Stangstag Toronto Blue Jays Sep 04 '26
90% of this sub would be saying “see i knew it all along, I always knew Shohei was bad!”
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u/notsafeformactown Texas Rangers Sep 04 '26
i feel like all the heat would be on the MLB if they knew and allowed that. I know that's who I would be the most mad at.
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u/Sa7aSa7a Chicago Cubs Sep 04 '26
The only words worse than "Pablo Torre is doing an investigation about you" is "Why don't you have a seat right there"
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u/ExitVelocity66 New York Yankees Sep 04 '26
You mean the team that has a pipeline into Japan and has billions deferred and has an owner being investigated for fraud and has a cushy deal excluding them from revenue sharing is up to no good and potentially sketchy business dealings???? AS IFFFFF
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u/SilentRanger42 Boston Red Sox Sep 04 '26
Let’s be honest, who among us hasn’t done a cute little fraud every once in a while?
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u/ErniePottsShoelifts Cincinnati Reds • Toronto Blue Jays Sep 04 '26
I may have committed some light treason.
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u/bigbluethunder Milwaukee Brewers Sep 04 '26
Unironically, he should consider having a security detail. You piss one billionaire off for exposing their corrupt shenanigans, you’re poking a bear. You piss off the entire class for showing they’re all the same… watch out.
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u/ClearanceItem Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 04 '26
- I love the Dodgers.
- If Walter did something illegal, prosecute him.
Both sentiments can be true.
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u/MarcBulldog88 Los Angeles Dodgers • World Series Tr… Sep 03 '26
Post #4. Will this one stay?
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u/CuriousEyes02 Seattle Mariners Sep 04 '26
I can't tell you just how good this would be for baseball and society in general.
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u/jollyman10 Sep 04 '26
I wonder if Passan will be like how his other ESPN colleagues were with regards to how they disregarded Pablo’s investigation on the Clippers
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u/BeefInGR Detroit Tigers • West Michigan W… Sep 04 '26
Passan and Pablo are tight iirc
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u/OccasionalGoodTakes Seattle Mariners Sep 04 '26
I feel like a lot of people are running with this in the thought it will be exactly like the clippers, when like, there are so many other possibilities. We literally know the bad shit that Walter is doing on some level due to the lakers sale, the entire investigation could be around that.
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u/CommonerChaos Chicago White Sox Sep 03 '26
I thought it would be Brunson and the Knicks, as he teased it before. We'll have to see.
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u/Mets_BS New York Mets Sep 04 '26
He said he looked into Brunson and didn't find anything
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u/IonHazzikostasIsGod Toronto Blue Jays • Toronto Blue Jays Sep 04 '26 edited Sep 04 '26
If I had a nickel for every time an LA team cheated to prevent a Toronto team winning another title, I could ask for a dime
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u/Primary_Expert7249 Houston Astros Sep 04 '26
My guess is they knew Shohei was betting and had his friend take the fall.
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u/mdubyo Toronto Blue Jays Sep 04 '26
The plane was really coming to Toronto and they tricked him!!
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u/twistedlogicx Toronto Blue Jays • Lou Gehrig Sep 04 '26
The lone report on this post.
I'm afraid Pablo sends his regards.