r/area51 • • Jun 03 '26

Aircraft Allegedly Spotted near Area 51

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231 Upvotes

Allegedly taken using an Infiray 10 micron thermal scope by some random Youtuber. Some have questioned the authenticity of it, ie no exhaust, but if it is real, that would be very interesting. Some also pointed out similarity to some sort of NGAD or F-47 program, ie canards. Thoughts? Is this a real pic?

See: https://x.com/chrisschmitz/status/2062097770291339641

Edit: Seems more credible, since Uncanny Expeditions has confirmed it https://x.com/uncannyex/status/2062242584685412535


r/area51 • • Apr 09 '25

Please Read Before You Post Anything About Bob Lazar

66 Upvotes

ETA: to clarity our Lazar rule - if you want to post some new info, great. If you can somehow prove a claim that Lazar has made, the majority of which have been thoroughly debunked, fine. If your post is just a rehash of the same old crap, expect it to be deleted.

Please visit the following websites and educate yourself before you post anything here regarding Bob Lazar. IMHO Lazar invented his entire tale, in order to try and show up/show off to John Lear and others. Lazar has substantially benefited financially over the years from his stories, beginning with "The Lazar Tape" that he was selling for $29.99 back in the 90's ($43 in 2025), up to and including Jeremy Cowbells "documentary" on Netflix, and the newer Project Gravitard one . And the grift continues with new upcoming "documentaries".

Courtesy of Tom Mahood:
https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/looking-at-the-bob-lazar-story-from-the-perspective-of-2018/
https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/bluefire-main/bluefire/the-bob-lazar-corner/

Bob Lazar Debunked
https://boblazardebunked.com/

Bob Lazar: Area 51, Flying Saucers & Joe Rogan - The Worst Documentary on Netflix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmJLSuLmgdg

If You Believe Bob Lazar, You Believe...
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/6gvqvysd784k2w4n7ehgt/Why.Does.Rogan.Believe.Bob.Lazar.pdf?rlkey=y4jbbmpe7twhp5rmsttsuantv&st=l5m3djne

The Lazar Report
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yn369z6075673rtjyvv5o/The.Lazar.Report.pdf?rlkey=i7lqby9rj0ttzuq5stumrkynm&st=komzk132

Dr Stanton Freidman on Bob Lazar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBdUg1h9XLU
https://web.archive.org/web/20201118014848/http://www.stantonfriedman.com/index.php?ptp=articles&fdt=2011.01.07

RationalWIKI on Bob Lazar
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Robert_Lazar

FBI File: Bob Lazar’s United Nuclear - Lazar Raided by the FBI
https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/fbi-file-bob-lazars-united-nuclear/

This is fun too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFfstHzwV6k

The facts at the above links pretty well debunk anything Lazar has ever claimed. More will be added if I think they are significant. FYI - there are individuals who peruse this subreddit that know far more that Lazar could ever HOPE to know. People with actual credentials.


r/area51 • • 4h ago

Made the pilgrimage to area 51

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104 Upvotes

r/area51 • • 12h ago

Plane spotting of JANET 🛫

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134 Upvotes

r/area51 • • 3h ago

Unknown aircraft’s at range 76?

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6 Upvotes

Yellow and blue plane are Janet’s but the other 2 in test range 76 doesn’t show what it is and no callsign either.

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=\~29a588


r/area51 • • 15h ago

Stratotanker in NTTR?

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17 Upvotes

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae0479

This appeared in the Nevada site but it was close to Area 51, The aircraft landed somewhere in the Nevada site and still continue to go.


r/area51 • • 10h ago

Groom Radiosondes X4857096 and Y0310848 10/15/2026

3 Upvotes

r/area51 • • 22h ago

International Special Operations Force expo at the NTTR

10 Upvotes

https://sam.gov/workspace/contract/opp/1ba9dc10c5934766a81fdcb80120f10b/view

I posted this for their September 2026 event. This post is for the 2027 event in April.

Their website has a gallery of sorts of the September 2026 event.. Basically 1990s style with no captions. Lots of gun porn (yawn).

https://isofrange.com/range-gallery/

Here are some photos I found interesting:

Shooting drone like skeet: https://portal.isofrange.com/resource/6612/20250401-dsc3477.jpg

Is this a jet pack? https://portal.isofrange.com/resource/7663/20250401-dsc0393.jpg

Another: https://portal.isofrange.com/resource/7645/20250331-dsc9873.jpg

Drone that looks like it will release drones while in flight: https://portal.isofrange.com/resource/1416/20240409-dsc8733.jpg

Name my band: https://portal.isofrange.com/resource/9053/20250402-dsc0682.jpg


r/area51 • • 1d ago

Boeing 767 landed at area 52 and disappeared.

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84 Upvotes

I did not get the logs of the whole for the flight but I managed to take a screenshot on ADS-B and the flight disappeared after I took the Screenshot. I took the screenshot around 1:45 PM est In case to get the flight logs.

EDIT- I managed to find it so here it is. https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay=2026-10-14-17:44&icao=a506da&lat=37.972&lon=-116.793&zoom=7.8


r/area51 • • 1d ago

Rip for this plane 💀

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39 Upvotes

Not sure either this is a company plane or military contract aircraft, but they entered the Nevada site traveling to whoever knows where.

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a536d6


r/area51 • • 2d ago

2 year later… back to A51!!

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139 Upvotes

After two years, I finally made it back to Area 51! This time, we drove all the way from Lone Pine to Tonopah, spending the night there.
Before stopping in Rachel, we headed straight to the Back Gate. As soon as we got out of the car, we were greeted by a long blast from their horn, even though we were still pretty far away! 😂 We didn’t want to push our luck or bother them too much, so we decided to leave and head over to the Little A’Le’Inn, only to find out it was closed. What a pity!
After that, we made our way to the Alien Center, which was also closed. Apparently, we weren’t having much luck.
I didn’t see any air activity this time around, but honestly, the feeling was still exactly the same.

So yeah… I guess I’ll just have to come back again to finally get myself a hot dog! 🌭👽


r/area51 • • 2d ago

Janet 10 and NNAA heading to Area 51.

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12 Upvotes

r/area51 • • 2d ago

OT: charter flight to KTPH (Tonopah Civilian) N805FA

7 Upvotes

I fired up adsbx to see if the Janets were flying after their day off yesterday due to the federal holiday. I spotted two planes at KTPH, one being the regular Ameriflight cargo plane. The other being a PC-12.

Someone booked a charter from Palo Alto to Tonopah. Well interesting. But the fun thing is this charter has a dead leg booking page. If you were in Tonopah and needed a flight to Camarillo, today was your lucky day.

Technically two dead legs to service this customer. The company had to fly a dead leg to Palo Alto, fly to Tonopah, then back to their Camarillo base. I'm guessing the customer paid $4k+ for their Palo Alto to Tonopah flight.

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=aaf4ee&lat=37.504&lon=-117.807&zoom=9.2&showTrace=2026-10-13&leg=2&trackLabels

https://ibb.co/3YN2XyMb

https://www.fetchairlines.com/empty-legs

https://www.fetchairlines.com/fleet


r/area51 • • 4d ago

Thought you guys would enjoy the rest of my Groom/NNSA/DOE coins

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335 Upvotes

If anyone wants to see better pictures of any coin let me know and I’ll take it out for better photos


r/area51 • • 4d ago

Quick question

12 Upvotes

Do any of ygs know if there any project or flight test patches that were for the rq-180 that were from the NNSS or Creech? Just wondering


r/area51 • • 6d ago

Some Groom swag from one of my favorite people

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540 Upvotes

He knows who he is. Very grateful!

Anything anyone can share about Viper Team?


r/area51 • • 6d ago

Groom Radiosonde X4857059 10/9/2026

3 Upvotes

r/area51 • • 7d ago

A quote from "Red Eagles: America's Secret MIGS" (3rd edition)

15 Upvotes

From pages 94 and 95.

For someone who doesn't know about CONSTANT PEG:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4477th_Test_and_Evaluation_Squadron

*****

The remoteness of the TTR lent itself well to the low profile that CONSTANT PEG would need if it were to survive, explained Peck. "Even though the airfield could be seen from high sites, I physically went out there with a pair of binoculars and had found that there is so much thermal activity out there on the desert floor that you can't get a clear image of what you're looking at. I could never really visually see anything from any of the vantage points that I personally went and surveyed."


r/area51 • • 7d ago

Someone turned the starter on Janet N859WP 737 10/7/2026

6 Upvotes

Well N859WP is no longer on blocks.

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=abcac9&lat=47.059&lon=-120.578&zoom=7.0&showTrace=2026-10-07&trackLabels

The last time we saw this plane:

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=abcac9&lat=47.059&lon=-120.578&zoom=7.0&showTrace=2026-08-24&trackLabels

I assume there will be some shake down flights then return to Las Vegas next week.


r/area51 • • 7d ago

SABRE07 N662BA with partial tracking 10/7/2026 to 10/8/2026 zulu

3 Upvotes

It left the TTR and turned off the ADS-B near Pahute Mesa.

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a8bbc1&lat=37.398&lon=-116.500&zoom=10.0&showTrace=2026-10-07&trackLabels&timestamp=1791419553

It probably didn't land at Pahute Mesa. You can see the beacon turn on near the TTR:

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a8bbc1&lat=37.785&lon=-116.724&zoom=12.0&showTrace=2026-10-08&trackLabels&timestamp=1791419553

The date change is due to Zulu time. The beacon was turned off at 2:33PM then back on at 5:22PM. Note the unusual altitude around 28kft.

I used the replay mode and no other plane showed up.


r/area51 • • 8d ago

Nellis Skydio drone purchase

6 Upvotes

I'm sure these won't be used on NTTR tourists. ;-) Nellis is buying the works (thermal).

Note the proprietary frequencies. I doubt there is anything to demodulate due to encryption but you can look for their operation. The dual Pluto SDRs on AliExpress can scan 60MHz at a time with Tezuka firmware. You can at least see if the drone is in use. (SIGINT. Always be collecting.)

https://cdn.sanity.io/images/mgxz50fq/production-v3-red/b106cfb776afa5f88ae57826af1c42a027d7f517-2352x832.png?w=3000&fit=max&auto=format

https://sam.gov/workspace/contract/opp/1f34880ecdb744738cde35616d823c00/view

https://www.skydio.com/x10d/technical-specs

https://github.com/F5OEO/tezuka_fw


r/area51 • • 8d ago

Groom radiosondes X4857081 X4857115 10/7/2026

3 Upvotes

r/area51 • • 9d ago

Groom Radiosonde Y0250449 10/6/2026 - must be test week

2 Upvotes

r/area51 • • 10d ago

OT: Upcoming directed energy shoot out at Dugway

15 Upvotes

Probably Michael Army Airfield


"In December, the Department will host a directed-energy shoot-off at Dugway Proving Ground to assess additional high-energy laser and high-powered microwave systems to identify promising capabilities for future operational use."


https://www.war.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/4619430/systems-selected-for-jiatf-401-directed-energy-counter-drone-pilot-program/

The Department of War announced the directed-energy systems selected following the Joint Interagency Task Force 401's (JIATF-401) counter-unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) directed energy pilot program, marking the next phase of efforts to expand the operational use of high-energy laser (HEL) and high-powered microwave (HPM) capabilities across the homeland.

Systems selected for the pilot include:

AeroVironment Palletized High-Energy Laser system
Epirus Leonidas High-Powered Microwave system
Kord Firefly High-Energy Laser system
Boeing Compact Laser Weapon system

"High-energy lasers and high-powered microwave systems are tools that can be effectively used in a layered drone defense," said U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Matt Ross, director of JIATF 401. "This pilot program will test these capabilities in an operational environment so we can understand how best to integrate and sustain them to defend the homeland."

Directed by the Fiscal Year 2026 National Defense Authorization Act, the pilot will evaluate these systems' performance providing real-time data and feedback on the systems' requirements, costs, and best practices.

JIATF-401 is conducting this pilot program in close coordination with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), U.S. Northern Command and the Services. Earlier this year, JIATF-401 partnered with the FAA to conduct a safety risk assessment during a live-fire HEL demonstration at White Sands Missile Range, New Mexico. As a result of this testing, the FAA determined that the system posed minimal risk to the National Airspace System and established a framework for continued coordination.

"There is no silver bullet, or one size fits all solution to countering the threat of drones," Ross said. "Directed energy gives commanders another option within a layered defense, complementing existing counter-UAS capabilities with a scalable, safe, and effective way to respond to drone threats. This pilot program will give us vital information in a real-world environment so we can employ these systems to protect the homeland."

While these systems represent the first capabilities selected for the pilot program, the DoW and JIATF-401 will continue to evaluate additional directed-energy technologies. In December, the Department will host a directed-energy shoot-off at Dugway Proving Ground to assess additional high-energy laser and high-powered microwave systems to identify promising capabilities for future operational use.


https://www.dvidshub.net/feature/JIATF401

https://www.idga.org/command-and-control/articles/jiatf-401-explained-how-the-pentagons-new-counter-uas-task-force-is-changing-drone-defense


r/area51 • • 10d ago

Groom Radiosondes X4857093 and X4857082 10/5/2026

3 Upvotes