r/anticapitalism • u/TheExpressUS • 14h ago
Elon Musk accused of killing Starlink connection for Ukraine defense drones
https://www.the-express.com/news/world-news/217916/elon-musk-accused-killing-starlink772
u/PriorityPrimary1475 14h ago
Starlink needs to be taken over for national security reasons.
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u/og_capsuleer_593 14h ago edited 14h ago
Elon Musk is now a valid war target and I highly advise Ukraine to make that clear to him
He travels a lot and there will be opportunity for him to simply not make it to his destination and be replaced
If I was Ukraine I would tell him "If you want to be involved in the war, we will remove you from the war."
It would be the only warning he gets, and I would have spies infiltrate starlink as employees so if he is gonna plan something like that again, his war operation is disrupted and he no longer remains in existence.
Elon is a coward so when faced with it he will probably sacrifice a lacky and catipulate in fear
If not then replace him with a more reasonable leader via kinetic sanctions
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u/Notre-Dame-Gremlin 13h ago
they can speculate all they want, as long as there's no actual proof.
Musk being such a public figure, even a prefectly natural death would give birth to plenty speculation and conspiracy theories.
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u/NamelessCabbage 13h ago
Top heavy. The cybertruck chassis was inspired by his torso.
Edit: autocorrect doing me dirty
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u/dmstattoosnbongs 13h ago
I’m sure he’d have an explanation on why gravity is woke on X from the grave.
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u/ABrotherGrimm 13h ago
You can say killed on Reddit.
Edit: I guess calling for violence is not allowed, but you’re doing exactly that but with TikTok terms. There are other ways to say things other than this TikTok wordplay.
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u/HookLeg 13h ago
Invite him to the Saudi embassy.
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u/Notre-Dame-Gremlin 13h ago
Can being cut into little meat cubes by an electric saw pass as an accident ?
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u/deafblinddame 12h ago
No. The EU and every single country part of the 'coalition of the willing' should give him an entry ban and ban Starlink from operating within their jurisdictions. The only thing these parasitic billionaires care about is money, power and their personal freedoms. Hit him where it hurts. If he doesn't play ball make it a lifetime entry ban.
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u/Doobahtron 11h ago
Why not both?
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u/HuynhAllDay 9h ago
If he disappears while on a flight to somewhere else, he wont be able to live through the other punishments. Personally, i want him to experience every modicum of economic suffering that he has caused to others and him dying would be the easy way out.
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u/SpezRuinedHellsite 7h ago
We shouldn't punish him just for the sake of vengeance. We should punish him to reinforce the rule of law. Either laws have meaning, or they don't, and we're currently sliding down the "laws don't matter" slope.
We should've captured and tried Osama bin laden in a court.
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u/The_Tooter_Snooter 10h ago
For what it’s worth, I think Ukraine has the ability to hit him where it hurts a bit more than Europe does. And when I say “where it hurts”, I mean his tender vitals.
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u/elasticcream 9h ago
Wdym? Elon musk will never be poor. "Hit him where it hurts."? His high score is not where it hurts brother.
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u/fruitpunchsamurai619 7h ago
Wealth brings influence. Tax the motherfucker. Removing money out of politics is easiest way to fix most of the world's problem created by USA and all the billionaires globally.
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u/Ani_Mentor 12h ago
His evil staggers the imagination.
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u/Acorn2016 12h ago
He's basically a real life comic book villain. Goofy as hell, insanely rich, and evil.
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u/_GoKartMozart_ 11h ago
As the rich strip away more and more methods of holding them accountable. They leave us with only one option.
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u/YurpeeTheHerpee 13h ago
Im sure South Africa would be very upset by one of their citizens getting taken out.
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u/Upvoteifyourewithme 11h ago
I don't know if this is sarcasm or not, but he isn't a citizen, and I doubt most would care
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u/bigbigpure1 10h ago
so does that mean he was a valid war target for russia when starlink was active?
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u/Corfiz74 12h ago
Then he could just switch StarLink off completely, I'm afraid.
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u/og_capsuleer_593 12h ago
Not if hes dead because how is he gonna react to them killing him?
Maybe you missed the, he gets killed by Ukraine part lol
And if the next guy wants to join, he or she is free to, and they too can also be removed the same way
Then eventually someone who wants to continue existing will, not interfere and be a war target.
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u/Fun-Dimension5196 14h ago
You no longer have national security. Your president is in collusion with your enemies.
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u/ImportantDetective65 12h ago
The head of the CIA visited Russia a few weeks ago and the head of the FBI is visiting soon. Just some food for thought.
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u/yunghollow69 12h ago
The timing of the missing communication means that they spoke to putin first and timed it with the missile attacks. In other words, america strategically planned an attack with russia on ukraine. Let that sink in for a moment.
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u/RandyMuscle 12h ago
The internet in general should be a public utility provided by the government. It’s fucking stupid that anyone pays for it when it was developed with tax dollars.
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u/sowhyarewe 12h ago
Let me tell you about who funds drug research then grants private companies 20-year patents using those discoveries to make bank with inflated name brand pricing in the US....
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u/ComfortableChicken47 14h ago
Like the current regime is better than this shitbag South African scum
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u/PriorityPrimary1475 14h ago
The current regime will be gone soon, is that what you want for musk?
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u/ComfortableChicken47 14h ago
I’d rather wait for this regime to be gone and then take everything fElon owns and deport his ass back where he came from
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u/Cybermeld 14h ago
There is strong precedent for it now and we know he was here illegally for a bit.
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u/National-Charity-435 13h ago
Problem is that the president is also trying to extort Ukraine by not giving them ballistic missile warnings
He's desperate for any good oil news and putin has sown enough poppycock that Ukraine is hurting the global oil..even though russian oil has been sanctioned the US
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u/xxShathanxx 14h ago
No need competition is coming. Starlink will probably lose the government contracts around the world though.
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u/Affectionate_Cup9112 14h ago
You’re presuming president pumpkin pedo didn’t order him to cut the link. This is also associated with intelligence not being relayed to Ukraine.
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u/emlgsh 13h ago
Bad news - the segment of Starlink that was cut off was the one already under US national security (er, well, US military) purview. This is not to say that Musk's presence in the US military apparatus makes that distinction matter.
He (and Newt Gingrich, for some reason) occupies a spot in the chain of command at or above the level of top generals as of like a week ago.
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u/RobotSpaceBear 9h ago
Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Last time Musk cut Ukraine's Starlink when he realised it was about to allow thr Ukrainians to strike many Russian vessels with drones, the US government took ovet that branch of Starlink because of national security. This latest Starlink limitation on Ukraine is not Musky's fault, it's 100% a US government action.
Not that it makes it any better, they're both scums for making that decision.
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u/kuebel33 14h ago
But like by a country that isn’t the U.S. because you can’t trust this admin to actually do the right thing in any circumstance.
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u/CapinWinky 11h ago
It already was, it is starsheild run by the DoD and that is the entity providing military Internet to Ukraine.
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u/OilInternational2566 14h ago
This guy is the richest man on earth.
And he could use his power and riches to become a literal modern Messiah and fix so many things.
BUT NO.
That’s not what he wants to do. That’s not how he wants to be remembered.
And that’s what being a fucking “alpha-male” asshole & ketamine addict will do to your brain.
He will go down in history as a giant douche instead.
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u/Ok-Highlight8715 13h ago
People dont get it. He isnt rich because he's actually smart. He is rich because of a charade that conned the government, first in California and then in the US, into giving him a bunch of contracts and tax breaks which helped inflate his company's stock price. The CA government started catching wise way back when they discovered Tesla plants illegally polluting and he didnt follow through on his hyperloop bullshit. Then suddenly he's a republican because they let him buy in more easily.
Tesla's stock price is way higher than it should be according to traditional metrics (has been for awhile) and so is SpaceX which is where his net worth primarily comes from. If he loses access to the US government, its very likely shareholders will not be so enthralled with his companies. Russia is running disinformation campaigns for Trump and Musk all over the place, and my tinfoil hat theory is they own quite a bit of SpaceX stock too. If they lose to Ukraine, Dems win and Musk loses his sweet ride.
This was the plan all along. My blood went cold the second he promised those satellites. He never intended to help them win the war, he just needed to make it look like he was.
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u/Glittering-Fuel-5055 12h ago
He’s rich because he has absolutely no morals
For instance, he recently got it set up so that more full self-driving equals more money for Elon, and then as soon as that happened, he took away the car’s ability to do any kind of self-driving without paying
If you buy a brand new Tesla right now, it can’t do any lane keeping or anything at all unless you pay for full self-driving
He is fully willing to make everyone’s life worse. He is fully willing to downgrade the product. He is fully willing to piss off millions of customers because he wants even more money.
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u/bricoXL 12h ago
He did a nazi salute, twice, when Trump was elected. We don't need to look much further.
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u/wolfy2526 9h ago
Noooooo that was totally a "my heart will go out to you" gesture...everyone does that gesture. He's autistic, he didn't know! heavy /s
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u/Aggravating_Moment78 12h ago
Yup, SpaceX is basically vaporware, totally over inflated and reliant in government contracts
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u/Relative_Average758 11h ago
The rumor is that USAID had data on him shutting down satellites to protect a Russian interests, which as. DoD contractor is a war crime. That act wiped out a town of 300people.
Which is why he completely dismantled USAID. - and if you’re wondering why a US foreign aid administration would have any of that information, it’s also rumored to have been a boots on the ground front for intelligence services back to the 70’s.
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u/howdidigetheretoday 14h ago
I do believe his goal is to be king of the world.
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u/Ok-Highlight8715 13h ago
No his goal is to hold up the house of cards he's built. His net worth is only as high as his stock price. If that collapses, so does he.
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u/Mushroom_Boogaloo 13h ago
Funny thing is, he wants desperately for the masses to love and adore him like a saviour, but he categorically refuses to do anything that might allow him to achieve that goal.
It would be tragic if he wasn’t such a monster.
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u/BrolyDisturbed 13h ago
His goal isn’t to fix things. His goal is to keep himself above all others.
If he starts fixing the world, to him (and other zillionaires), it means healthier and smarter people that would eventually revolt against them. The goal is to keep you dumb, unhealthy, and broken so they can keep on being elites and hoard their wealth and power.
Why else do you think they’re all so cushy with the government(s)? Why else is all of their tech/products exist to either monitor you, make you consume certain content, feel a certain way, etc.
The system isn’t broken for them, it’s working just as intended.
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u/Confident_Shape_7981 12h ago
That's the funny thing, though. He DOES want to be seen as a modern messiah.
He just refuses to do anything that would actually give that to him. He wants to be adored, but because he'd have to give up .0001% of his wealth for it, he refuses.
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u/Rymnarr 12h ago
I'm starting to think all these people have something held over them. So they just have to continue to be assholes because they're told to. Only billionaire who doesn't seem to be is McAfee and he's living the high life and is fucking crazy but leaves the world alone.
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u/Resident-Escape-3441 14h ago
What did they think would happen using a nazis fucking satellites!?
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u/Intelligent-Try-4738 12h ago
Sadly it's the only real option right now. Europe, Amazon, Blue Origin, and others are trying to catch up but they aren't there, yet.
Note: Delta did sign up to use the satellites of a competitor just a couple of months ago and Elon was not happy. We're getting close to having competition in this space!
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u/War1today 14h ago
Musk is the same person that convinced Trump to spend $500 million to resettle nearly 18,000 white Afrikaners in South Africa to USA. Afrikaners were responsible for the racist apartheid regime which violently ruled South Africa from 1948 to 1994. The word apartheid means apartness" (Afrikaans for separateness), and the movement involved Afrikaner nationalism, racial superiority, and the fear of losing political and cultural dominance to the Black majority. It classified every South African into racial categories (White, Black, Coloured, Indian), and forced physical and residential segregation by removing non-whites from areas designated for whites. It restricted the movement, labor, and urban access of Black South Africans, lowered educational standards and restricted curricula for Black students and segregated public spaces like transport, beaches, and restrooms. And the Afrikaners killed, tortured and raped with impunity.
That is what Musk advocated for, getting these people to the USA, and this is what Trump supports.
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u/Greendale_Official 13h ago
He really is the anti-Tony Stark. Seeing old posts from a decade or so ago seeing people praising him makes my skin crawl.
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u/Brodman1986 13h ago
Oh people still praise him, just the other side of the aisle.
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u/audeo03 11h ago
And the reason that DOGE targeted USAID first. A fairly obscure agency that helped black Africans
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u/Waste-Switch3966 10h ago
Listen to the audio book by Trevor Noah "Born a Crime: from a South African Childhood" I say listen bc the dude speaks multiple languages and rolled into a sentences here and there in the stories and does some hilarious voices as he reads it. It's well written, educational and funny (especially ch 3 - the childhood poop story). Also the 10th edu is great bc at the end he answers a bunch of questions from readers which was great for to know what happened to Toby, don't want to spoil anything. Can't recommend it enough.
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u/Jaeee20 14h ago
I hate this vile piece of shit maybe even more than I hate trump
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u/SnooPears2373 14h ago
It's really neck-and-neck, though, isn't it? It's like history's shittiest olympics.
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u/OrneryVirus9340 13h ago
If it’s neck-and-neck you’d have to throw Charlie Kirk into the mix surely?
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u/H00dedcrow 14h ago
Now his company has gone past the IPO stage, he can go back to destabilising the world to make MORE money I suppose.
How he sleeps at night is beyond me.
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u/ScoredCretaceous 14h ago
Performatively, one assumes
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u/enmaku 13h ago
He pays someone else to sleep for him, then posts screenshots from that guy's sleep tracker to brag about what a good sleeper he is
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u/TrumpetOfDeath 12h ago
I’m betting Trump asked him to do this after he made a deal with Putin to get Russian oil
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u/I_Dont_Work_Here_Lad 12h ago
Ketamine is a dissociative medication so that probably helps quite a bit.
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u/uttercross2 14h ago
There really has to be a European alternative to Starlink. Musk cannot be trusted and Europe really needs to distance itself from him and his wayward politics and political meddling.
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u/Puzzled_Caregiver_46 14h ago
I believe the EU has several in the pipeline. Iris2 is one of them. Unfortunately it's not coming online until 2029.
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u/Different_Beat_730 11h ago
I've got great news for you! Nokia and ICEYE started working together exactly for this reason.
Nokia you all know of, and ICEYE makes small radar satellites already used by multiple European militaries and governments.
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u/Specific_Celery4899 14h ago
He's doing this to get richer. Back in politics for the Midterms and MAGA doesn't like Ukraine. Musk is spending hundreds of millions of dollars again for absurd & illegal gains. Then he's out of politics again. Doesn't care one bit of the lives this'll cost.
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u/Stitching4Gold 12h ago
This is your daily reminder that just under, just over or around 50% of these commenters are not real people, reddit has been a training ground for bots from the early days so it might actually be much more than 50% That data centre might have gotten rid of some of the pro paedo-cheeto bots but thats only a drop in the ocean of the grand total. Try not to worry too much about what other people online say. Most of them are just rage bait bots.
Especially the Name-Name-Numbers. If thats you and you arnt a bot, then dont get all surprised pikachu at people when they get sus. You use the same default name option that bots get when accounts are being made en masse. It takes a second so take your strop elsewhere.
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u/Relative_Average758 11h ago
There are Bot farms in SE Asia, China, NKorea, as well as hybrid accounts.
We’ll never get rid of all of them. But it’s refreshing for now.
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u/FourScoreAndSept 8h ago
Yes, but each farm has a slightly different (government sponsored) agenda, so…
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u/Tall_Weekend_5469 10h ago
That's me, and no surprised Pikachu here. I'd rather you be sus of me than fooled by "it".
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u/Dangerous_Reporter14 9h ago
Also a reminder to delete unused accounts (on any website) and change your passwords. People hijack old accounts and use them as bots to peddle propaganda among other things. There’s a reason 2FA came to be, so that you can’t spam create accounts. it just so happens that you can use it to protect accounts. If you use 2FA to make an account then leave it compromised well guess what, that account is essentially a white walker now. And it has your fingerprints on it.
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u/FunAppointment9436 7h ago
I should change my name, but I've grown rather attached to it.
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u/SilkyPatricia 5h ago
Exactly what a bot would say
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u/CatgirlFucker8008 2h ago
What a great post, I'll be sure to share it with my fellow humans!
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u/Cohens4thClient 11h ago
It helps to remember the bots are unable to say anything nice. I like to taunt them into it, they cant because the programmers know they need anger, insults and divisiveness.
If its a hidden history account, I get suspicious. If the account has existed for years, but has a strangely low number of posts and comments, it was likely bought or salvaged frkm the original owner who quit.
Accounts under 3 months old are the easiest to dismiss.
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u/lordorwell7 8h ago
My suspicion is that Reddit allowed accounts to hide their history in an effort to conceal how bad the bot issue is becoming.
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u/Wizinit29 14h ago
After Trump is gone, SpaceX/Starlink will be nationalized for national security and Musk will face a myriad of criminal charges.
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u/HolyShitIAmOnFire 14h ago
As cool as that sounds, no Democrat has the grapes for it.
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u/Wizinit29 14h ago
It will be a popular move, so I expect there are several who could jump on it.
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u/willychonka54 12h ago
You Americans really need to stop depending on 'the democrats' to come and save the day. They are all corporate owned outside of bernie and AOC and that's specifically why Bernie is always pushed out during primaries and AOC will never get the nod.
Corporations require stability and any actions that propose to upend that stability (even if it's corrupt republican stability) they simply won't do it.
Look at the Canadian tariffs. These should be instantly revoked the second congress is controlled by the dems but they won't be because their corporate overlords are making bank right now and they don't want that gravy train to stop.
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u/What_a_fat_one 13h ago
Democratic voters are the ones who get to decide, and even the most milquetoast of Democratic voters have been halfway between a state of trauma and murderous rage for the past two years. By the time 2028 rolls around I think you might be surprised who voters decide they want to be the face of the party.
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u/PositivePrimary6904 12h ago
Hope his actions cost him his reputation and he looses his power because he is a real threat to democracy working behind the scenes for trump exploiting media lies and trying to cheat the electorate voting system past and present stealing data and misleading people he is dangerously sitting on power that not one man should hope Europe and other countries boycotts starlink and the rest of his company and makes their own tech without being dependent on dangerous USA 🇺🇸 the government is treacherous destroying democracy and abandoning their allies and siding with the enemy terrible people and we are all tired of them everyday the headline more lies cheating corrupt politicians and wealthy people corrupt people running the USA and making the world so unsafe
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u/this_is_a_long_nickn 11h ago
He’s pissed because he lost the bots upvoting his shitty posts, due to Ukraine putting the russian bot farm literally in the cloud
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u/Wonderful_Pension_67 14h ago
Just arrest him....grow a pair EU
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u/RebelliousInNature 14h ago
He is just a rich guy. Same as any other rich guy.
He has no super diplomatic powers or rights.
I say this turkey needs his wings clipped internationally.
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u/ioncat144 14h ago
Straight up POS traitor. Needs to be held accountable just like his handler! Money before life, as fucking always. Rich pieces of shit!
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u/Autothotsrollout1 13h ago
When Russian bots disappear, it becomes way harder to push whatever narrative they're spinning. This was done to ensure his midterm plans go through
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u/Counselor_Mackey 14h ago
This is how Trump got such a good deal on diesel from Russia, all he had to do was tell Elmo to “turn off Starlink” for a minute so they could fire on Ukraine successfully. More treason from the administration.
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u/What_a_fat_one 13h ago
Good deal? It's shit quality diesel and more expensive than just buying from Canada.
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u/EqualShallot1151 14h ago
EU should stop all imports of Teslas while evaluating the risk of them spying for the US.
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u/momoenthusiastic 13h ago
This is why this shit shouldn’t have been private in the first place. The next democratic presidential candidate should run on the platform of privatization of SpaceX and make Internet affordable again
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u/Woyzeck17 13h ago
So when does someone declare war on him?He’s an active participant in combat with more money than most armies.
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u/hyperiongate 13h ago
It feels like the rich are deciding the outcomes of wars. This is not new. What is new is how being super rich makes this almost effortess.
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u/Bumpy-road 14h ago
Blood is on your hands Elon!
We should treat him like any other Putin supporting oligark
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u/Relevant_Bag7550 14h ago
Elon is just a Bond villain with bad posture.
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u/TheAdminsAreTrash 12h ago
I've said it before and I'll say it again, that's a serious insult to Bond villains lol.
Bond villains generally aren't needy and pathetic to the extreme, and usually they have friends, or at the very least, sycophants that actually respect them. Whereas elon might be the most pathetic human being to have ever existed.
And, iirc, there's also never been any pedo Bond villains. Whereas elon attended trumps underage Mar-a-Lago auctions, along with Ivanka and Jr.
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u/NurglesGiftToWomen 13h ago
“Oh shit, the Russian bots I paid for died in the drone strikes I paid for to create fear in the elections I paid for!” -Musk, probably
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u/CptMcDickButt69 12h ago
At what point should civilized governments come together, roll into their offices and just take over in face of an emergency? We have become far to comfy with governments taking the basic rights of normal men and women willy-nilly while people of power seem to have their "rights" extend far beyond any reasonable state authority/needs.
He is just the richest man because the people and our governments allow it for some bullshit reason. We can just cut him and the other loonies off their world-ender money schemes and morally it would simply fall under self-defense.
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u/SaitamaHitRickSanchz 13h ago
So... how is this not an act of war by the US against Ukraine? Musk is working with the Dept. of War on the "future of warfare". Musk is a representative of the United States while he serves at that capacity.
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u/LSTmyLife 12h ago
This is arguably tangential but I think of it every single time. How mamy billionaires do we have? Not a single fucking one of them decided to be Batman. Not one. Across the board they all went Lex Luthor.
This bothers me all the time.
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u/PigglyWigglyDeluxe 11h ago
Almost like a singular global internet provider ran by one person is a bad idea
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u/Legitimate_Staff487 9h ago
If we had a functioning government nearly every venture that made Elon rich would have been nationalized under the defense production act almost immediately.
It's not too late to do that, either.
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u/jgoose132113 7h ago
elon is mad that Ukraine keeps on blowing up the Russian bot farms that make up the majority of his engagement online.
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u/Mother_Middle8883 12h ago
I’m all for Capitalism, but one person should not be able to become a trillionaire.
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u/MadScienzz 14h ago
I've often thought the whole SpaceX thing is actually reignighting the Star Wars programme of the cold war era. Having geostationary satellites with the ability to drip payload (recent testing on dropping items, specifically liquids and electronics from low orbit) kind falls in line with orbital warfare...?
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u/OriginalEchoTheCat 13h ago
Deport Elon musk and his brother for lying on how they got here, overstaying their Visa, and lying on their immigration paperwork
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u/kdotismydad 13h ago
This isn’t the first time he’s done this and tried to leverage starlink in his geopolitical games
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u/DrTommyNotMD 13h ago
Very easy to verify. No reason to accuse.
This is either facts or lies. Not “accused of”.
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u/LimpConversation642 13h ago
What do you mean accused? this is literally what happened today. They cut starlink to military drones and some operations went down the drain because it's the only reliable connection source these days

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u/Switchmisty9 14h ago
Not the first time Starlink has been leveraged against the Ukrainians.
Elon Musk is the dictionary definition of a terrorist