Trying to make silver is literally fighting demons bro.

I've come back to this game again in the past week, and holy shit silver is doom and despair. It's to the point where I can MVP in high tier premiums (without using prammo, and with a premium account) and barely manage to break even.

Like bro what happened

Hey everyone, hope you’re well.
Had a game a moment ago where a player deliberately sabotaged and threw the game to ensure the team did not win.
The game was a tight and drawn out game, the player in question asked a camping night stalker to come with come with him late in the game with only a handful left on each team but he didn’t, just stayed camping in his spot.
This clearly must have flicked a switch for this player and from that point onwards they spammed good game and placed themselves against the border of the map, actively removing themself from the game.
The game progressed on for the next few minutes, teams slowly getting spotted and taken out one for one until it was just myself and this player in a 2v2. About 3 minutes were remaining at this point.
They spent the entirety of these remaining minutes spamming me, spamming good game and driving along the edge of the map in the opposite direction to where the enemies were last spotted (on highway this is)
I got killed, and they spammed great shot and good game until the timer ran out.

I messaged them to ask what their issue was and as guessed, they were consciously sabotaging. “Coward player don’t help me = I don’t help coward player” with a bunch of wheelchair, chicken and clown emojis.

I reported them in game, though not sure how effective that is. Is there anything else I can do?
Looking at their game history it seems they might do this quite frequently.

Im really glad the developers are paying attention to improve the game. Im sure only good things can come from this.

The format of the questions is that they ask a question, then you have to rate the subject from 1-10 based on how satisfied you are.1 is unhappy, 10 is happy).

Some example questions: How would you rate the following aspects of WW2 mode: -Quality of team composition? -Frequency of battles that end too soon? -Que wait times? -Players skill level in battle? -Number of vehicles? -Time required to research a vehicle branch to the highest tier? -Vehicles play style diversity? -Impact of premium vehicles in battle? -Vehicles visual design? -Variety of maps? -Map balance? (and many more questions)

I tried to be objective and fair. For example I looked back through my last few games to see if premium vehicles were at the top of every match(they were not) suggesting that premium vehicles are not OP in real world games.

This is a great game, and it makes me optimistic about the future of the game that the developers care about improving it!

Gorynych seems like a slow, Prem ammo and arty magnet

Not sure how to feel about Asterion, dont see them very often

Had my eye on the Wraith a while ago, but I already have the standard Mutz, not sure if the extra armor is worth the cost to mobility

Anyways, what would you pick? Not hurting for anymore heavy or medium 8's

Notes: 

• Release Date: 
  • M6A2E1: idk 2016?
  • Bog Horror: Oct 2018
• Balance History: 
  • 7.1.1
  • Heath: 1500 -> 1550
  • Reverse speed: 10 -> 14
  • Hull rotation speed: 24 -> 28
  • Accuracy: 0.42 -> 0.4
  • Aim time: 2.29 -> 2.1
  • Accuracy during turret rotation: 0.18 -> 0.16
  • Armor changes: 
  • Armor around turret ring: 191 mm -> 229 mm
  • Frontal roof armor: 41 mm -> 63.5 mm
  • Turret cheek armor: 180 mm -> 208 mm
• Dispersion: 
  • Turret: 0.16
  • Movement: 0.22
• Weight: 67 tons

Overview: 

• A super unarmored M6 with a proto T29 turret slapped on it. 

Pros: 

• Pref MM
• 10 Degree of gun depression 
• Strong front armor 
• Above average damage potential
• High 280 ammo rack HP
• High 67% silver multipler  

Neutral: 

• Average HP
• Average VR
• Average shell velocity 
• Average enough pen for a pref tank (though use to be above average) 

Cons: 

• Poor mobility overall 
• Poor accuracy 
• Poor dispersion values 
• BAD DPM
• Bog Horror does not come with built in camo
• Also it just has bad camo, and just really tall. 
• High engine fire chance 

Armor: 

• Armor at list angle [armor against AP with 5 degree of normalization] 
• Its got strong front, but weak sides. 
• Turret:
  • Front: overall its ranges due to complexity. Generally about 250-280 [225-245]. The turret ring is also circular flat 229, but somewhat hard to aim at.  This is also true for directly next to the gun. 
  • Sides: eh not great as its a big flat 89mm mostly. With the forward section being curved its becomes a easy pen as soon as the turret is turned. 
  • Rear: actually very thick due to needing a counterweight. So outside the lower section its not half bad. So be happy when the occasional light tank somehow misses your giant hull and hit the 208mm section. (I suppose you could also troll by poking your rear turret over a hill?)
  • Roof + Cupola:  well the roof is pretty meh at only 25mm so easy arty hit. The cupola is also not much as its only 89mm, but it is easily hidden by the gun depression (and the general height of the tank). 
• Hull: 
  • Upper front: 191mm at 44 degrees, so about 265 [245]. The corners are weaker at only 38 degrees so 240 [228]. Overall pretty thick for a tier 8 as it blocks standard ammo enough, but that's before gun depression. That pushes it to around 330 [293]. 
  • Lower front: The mid section has the same thickness and angle as the upper plate. The lowest plate is at 78 degrees with a 56mm spaced armor plate. So yea even when poking over a hill that section will still block most shots. Of course most shots will still hit the larger mid section. 
  • Sides: this is where it becomes negative news. 66mm on both sections. The lower section is covered by 20/25mm spaced protection but that's only good for HE really. 
  • Rear: eh its okay i guess at 51mm, but that's only good for 105mm HE protection. 
  • Roof + Floor: eh not great at only 25mm, meaning HE and facing hugging will hurt this tank. This includes the sponson floors which is a lesser known weak spot. 
• So yea front to enemy works well enough on this tank to bully a lot of tanks… assuming they cant flank you at all. 

Gameplay:

• This is a slow paced tank. Movement and gun fighting require patience. You are not getting anywhere quick and your DPM is garbage. Combined with your poor gun handling and accuracy you'll often pause to make sure your shots land. 
• Keep your turret pointed forward as the sides quickly become weak. 
• It depends on what kind of enemy your facing, but this is generally a good bully due to the only weak spot being the cupola. This means facing hugging is pretty good (unless they are tall enough to shoot your roof). 
• This of course doesn't mean you shouldn't try to go hull down as the hull can pen by premium rounds so best to make full use of your armor. 
• Equipment: 
  • Stablizer 
  • Turbo 
  • Rammer / vents
  • optics

Counter Gameplay: 

• This is a tank that has trouble dealing with faster tanks with good DPM. its side armor is poor and the DPM even more so. 
• Shoot the sponson floor as it's an easy pen if you're short enough. 
• Outside flaking it, it mostly is shoot the cupola. 

Cosmetics: 

• Well its something for sure. This is a big chonky tank. The original M6 was only 0.1m shorter than a tiger 2 (3.1m). Now this version got a bigger turret pushing it to 3.48m. 
• The hull used to be interesting on the M6. This unarmored version is now a bit boring. Anyhow there isn't too much detail on the tank otherwise as its generally lacks anything. I suppose there is a couple vision ports on the front hull sides which is nifty. 
• Turret… yea its a big fat turret. Gotta have room to use the 105mm T5 gun which is really underpowered for its size. 
• Bog Horror on the other hand is quite the difference. 
  • Yea it lives up to the name as it really looks like a tank that was stuck in a swamp for a few years. Lots of greenery and even stained the base color of the tank. 
  • Outside all the green the only other detail is the red eyes on the gun mantlet. 
• Cosmetics: (Bog)
  • Emblem: 2, one small space on each side of the turret
  • Inscription: only one on the left rear turret side
  • Flag: rear right of the turret

General Thoughts: 

• Boi this is a old tank. The pen use to be actually not a big hindrance as well the armor and pen level use to be quite a bit lower back in the day. Same with the DPM. The 1.6k was still poor, but the average for mediums and heavies used to be 1.8, now pushing over 2k. 
• This really hasn't had enough support over the years even accounting for the fact its a pref tank. The one buff did help a lot with usability, but update 7.1.1 was a very large wave of buffs so the general level remained the same if not a bit worse. 
• What would I do for this tank? 
  • Well I could say screw it and buff the pen to match the T32 as the STA-2 is a cheating cheat of a tank and has one of the highest pen for a T8 medium. But I tend to not think that's the best. 
  • I'd probably lean to a bit of reload and turret dispersion / accuracy boost. 
  • The mobility is generally okay for what the tank is as its quite heavy and is an older tank up armored so wasn't designed for the weight. 
  • Not much else otherwise. I could see HP and VR but thats generally up to if the tank is really that poor performing. 
• Of course I actually prefer a general nerf across the board for tier 8+ but that's a lot of work sadly. 
• I do say the ammo rack HP is oddly high for any tank in general. Tier 10’s cap out at 260 and only tier 10 germany the the Type 5 have 280. 

Buy?

• Mmm, that's debatable. It is cheaper for a tier 8 heavy, at least the base version of the tank. The Bog is 1.5k higher and doesn't even come with camo built in. 
  • The base tank is one of the handful thats always available in the premium TT so thats something. 
• It's a very very old tank so its hard to say if its holding up as well now a days. I’m  leaning to not really as the gun is quite weak outside the pen being okay. 
• Should you get it? Well id say dont bother with the regular tank as Halloween tanks are more fun. At time of review release the Bog is on sale for 6.6k which is pretty decent for a tier 8. 
• I guess it depends on how much value you put into 

History: 

• M6 Heavy: Link
• Tank Encyclopedia: Link

7 or 8 in a game oer side is ridiculous. It just feels like random explosions going off while you're wondering where it's coming from, oh and then you're dead. Maybe there should be a limit.

Bin nicht mehr so häufig online wie früher aber suche aktives Regiment zwecks Aufgaben und ein paar entspannte deutschsprachige Spieler zum zwischendurch zusammen Zocken spiel zur zeit fast nur Moderne Panzer hab mich ewig davor gedrückt und bin vielleicht noch bisschen eingerostet 😂

Anyone else having this issue? I only have the option for ww2 and cold war, I've gone through my settings and everything is allowed and not blocked idk at this point im at a loss.

Really not feeling this season . I already have the reward tanks that are not new .I dont want an era 2 light which I will never use . And for the 6000 gold reward a very soft tier 9 that will never be high tier.

Give me a tank people hate , like the Night Stalker .

Watch how many people buy that .

Sitting this season out.

For me, its gotta be the Obj 477A and Obj490 B when it comes to 1v1 and its face hugging you and straight up in front of you.

Next is the Wiesel Tow for obvious reasons.

Next is the EE-T1-P2 armor so strong but if you know where to aim at it, no problem to this tank.

Next are the ATGMs with an arming of 65 meters. Suddenly the light tanks with 65 meter arm distance are so close to you to get that 1200+ damage.

What’s your irritating tank to face in ERA 3?

If you are a silver tank player Cold War is unplayable right now. XM80ts and MonsterJaggers are a perfect mix to make silver tanks just meat.

Hey guys! I'm new to World of Tanks Console, and I'd really appreciate some advice on how to progress faster.

I'd especially like your opinions on which tech tree to grind. I'm currently deciding between the Soviet heavy tank lines leading to the Object 705A, IS-7, and Object 277.

Which line has the best armor? I'm looking for a tank that can push forward, take a few hits, and help defend my teammates without getting destroyed too quickly.

Which line would you recommend for a beginner, and do you have any tips for progressing faster?

Thanks in advance!

Pretty sure this isn't typically 13 silver. 🤔🤣🤣

Make the Nightstalker a tier 10. It is an absolutely stupid overpowered tank. Even against tier 10's it doesn't really affect it and its just silly. I reccomend your development team sit down and play against 3 on each team and see how much fun all the other players have. Fortnite/cod/Battlefield sells skins, not guns that make everyone else have a disadvantage. Truly sad what this game has become the past few years.

Is it just me, or is this game becoming increasingly frustrating because of certain tanks that are basically the same overpowered BS with slightly different designs?

Take the GAU-8 Black and the M163 VADS, for example. They’re basically the same ridiculous autocannon concept, except the M163 is smaller and even more annoying to deal with.

Then there’s the Wiesel MK1 and the XM800T. Again, practically the same BS. Small, fast, annoying vehicles that can absolutely shred you before you even have a proper chance to react.

And don’t even get me started on the Object 477A Molot and Object 490B. Both are ridiculously armored tanks that can feel almost impossible to deal with in certain situations.

What frustrates me the most is that I can have a genuinely great match in something like the T-80BV or the T-72BU, get 5–6 kills, play carefully and then suddenly get destroyed by someone driving one of these exact tanks.

It feels like no matter how well you play, there’s always some ridiculously overpowered vehicle waiting to ruin your match. And it’s not even about losing. I can accept getting outplayed by someone who’s genuinely better than me. What I can’t stand is feeling like certain tanks have such ridiculous advantages that skill barely matters anymore.

I’m not saying these vehicles are literally identical or have no weaknesses, but they all contribute to the same frustrating experience.

I’m genuinely reaching the point where I’m considering uninstalling the game. I want to enjoy World of Tanks, but lately it feels like I’m fighting the game’s balancing decisions more than the actual enemy team.

Because it’s just not fun anymore. Seriously. I’ve had the game since 2017 and have earned dozens of trophies (including some rare ones) but now it’s just nothing but frustrating.

Every now and then I manage to destroy an Obj. 490b but then another Obj. 490b or Obj. 477a immediately shows up. It’s the same story with the Wiesel MK1 or XM800T: as soon as I destroy one, another one appears right away. I once encountered four of them on the opposing team and wondered how that’s even possible.

Does anyone else feel this way, or am I just getting fed up with the current state of the game?

Is this true? I had been playing all morning. I closed the game to get some stuff done, I am now getting the message that the service is not available when I try to log in. It is 15:21 Pacific Time.

BECAUSE AMX 30B DON'T GOT BUFFED

Spoiler, it did not…

For the monster hunter challenge I always go for the most expensive tank. This year it’s the grimroot or arcane cannon. Don’t really remember them from last year. Which one is better? Which one to go for? TIA

Sure maybe not 12 men, but certainly at least could upgrade the amount to 8

While waiting for a server update decided run some math that nobody will see because nobody scours old posts on reddit

100 points Gorynych 9 000 gold / 3 600 000 silver or Höllenhund 7 800 gold / 3 120 000 silver

250 points Wraith 9 240 gold / 3 696 000 silver or Inferno Chimera 8 500 gold / 3 400 000 silver

375 points Asterion 7 500 gold / 3 000 000 silver or Pharaoh's Fury 12 500 gold / 5 000 000 silver

550 points Grimroot 8 500 gold / 3 400 000 silver or Arcane Cannon 10 000 gold / 4 000 000 silver

If you want silver dont pick Grimroot or Arcane Cannon, pick Pharaoh's Fury and Wraith or Gorynych instead of wraith if 96k silver doesnt matter that much, tbh you can make the silver in cw too, this is just for whales that cant use a gold value × 400 = silver value calculator

The Malpractice - I'm not adding the stupid Rx - is a fun tank to play.

Is it a good tank? No.

Is it entertaining to play in this GAME? Yes.

Mission accomplished.

It also cranks out four 60mm rounds extremely rapidly.

As I've said before, and I will undoubtably say again, the Bardelas should have had an autoloader of some sort - preferably 3 to 5 rounds with a short intra-clip time.

As a meme tank the Malpractice has a ROF that's too high, but if you gave the Bardelas the same four rounds with a 1 second intra and 8-10 second full reload it would go a long way towards making the tank actually useable on the battlefield.

One last note - thanks to the devs for bringing such a fun little beastie to pixelated life.

Kudos, gentlemen, kudos.