r/WTF • • Sep 12 '26

Load testing

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u/OllieN94 Sep 12 '26

Can someone please explain this to me as an everyday person and not a professional sparky?

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u/stevecostello Sep 12 '26

They are conducting "load testing" on what sounds like a fairly large, 3-phase generator using water to simulate a load. Each phase has it's own conductor attached to those pieces of copper (I assume copper). Air makes an excellent insulator, so when the conductors are in the air, no current passes between them. Placing that device into the water allows current to pass between the three conductors as the water acts as a resistor, or a load. Probably a safe assumption that the water is actually salt water, as that conducts electricity more readily than fresh water (also boils at a higher temperature... not sure which one they were caring about more, probably both).

The yellow device he's holding is a clamp on ammeter, measuring the amperage in one of the conductors. Looks like it gets up to around 12 or 13 amps. Fair amount of amperage there. Enough that, even as a former industrial electrician, there is absolutely no fucking way you could pay me enough to do that.

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u/oddiz4u Sep 12 '26

So, how many men is 12/13 amps killing?

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u/TravlrAlexander Sep 12 '26

As many as the voltage lets it run through, I’d wager.

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u/foofighter000 Sep 13 '26

Sounds like some shit Joseph Mengele would’ve done to people.

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u/meatflavored Sep 13 '26

He would have checked how many children and twins it went through.

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u/Glimmu 28d ago

One twin in the parallel test and the other in the series.

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u/StupidWhiteBastard 24d ago

Use triplets and do the test in one run.

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u/owa00 Sep 13 '26

Men? You mean disposable company assets, right?

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u/shamberra Sep 13 '26

Flash-based load-simulating resistors 

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u/panamaspace Sep 13 '26

Well, flesh-based, but they will briefly flash fir a moment.

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u/Black_Moons Sep 13 '26

Typicality called Dummy loads.

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u/Joe_Kingly Sep 13 '26

No, those are listed under "children".

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u/el_f3n1x187 Sep 13 '26

Mickey 19 through 50

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u/ttoksie2 Sep 13 '26

Well india standard 3 phase is 415 volt so at 13 amps thats about a 5 kilowatt load (actually less than I thought it would be).

But thats still equivelent to about 5 toasters so enough for like 5 or 6 people i recon?

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u/musingsofapathy Sep 13 '26

As the fatal amperage is measured in milliamps and I assume the human body wouldn't cause much load before death, I would assume that it would kill anyone who touched that water. The maximum number of idiots killed would depend not on the total amperage, but the ability of idiots to learn from the misfortune of others.

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u/sonofeevil Sep 13 '26

Eh, sort of.

Milliamps CAN be fatal but most won't be.

It's like saying tripping and falling can kill you. It's true, but most people just graze their skin or maybe break something.

Domestic electricians would have a far higher fatality rate if that were the case. I live in a first world country with really strong work safety laws and most of the residential electricians I know have accidentally booted themselves with mains power at least once in their career. (240v 10amp is the standard outlet here)

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u/gixxer710 Sep 13 '26

This is correct. It takes 0.6 milliamps to throw a human heart beat off. Could that kill you? Yes. It can. WILL IT? Most likely not. But it could.

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u/sonofeevil Sep 13 '26

I don't have the data to back this up but I'd say you'd be at more risk by several orders of magnitude driving to work than by getting a momentary boot from 0.6 milliamps.

Considering Tens machines operate in the 1-120 milliamp range and these are a clinical tool.

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u/schplat Sep 13 '26

TENS machines usually have some very clear verbiage to not have the leads span the heart. Basically the point is to use the skin/muscle/nerves to transmit the current back to the TENS unit, and the electrical signal never passes through your heart or CNS.

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u/sonofeevil Sep 13 '26

I'm aware.

But that wasnt my point.

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u/Smackety Sep 13 '26

True, but if you attached the tens to your heart you might have a different result.

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u/Edraqt Sep 13 '26

people just dont understand electricity, because you dont really need to understand it unless you work with it.

A lightning strike is like tens of thousands amps at millions of volts, but theres zero frequency and it only lasts for miliseconds so you have a high chance all of that just travels along your body and burns you a bit (or a lot)

you need the right (wrong) combination of amps, voltage, time and frequency to kys with electricity.

and even if none of those are zero, some of them being super high can also be safe. like if the frequency is huge to your bodies signals that mostly work on chemical gradients its the same as if it were zero.

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u/sonofeevil Sep 15 '26

Literally nobody understands that electricity.

There is a great veritasium video on this

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u/IsaacTheBound 27d ago

That's milliamps across the heart. The human body is a large resistor itself, but 415 volts will push through lethal amperage without much hassle.

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u/ttoksie2 Sep 13 '26

I dunno, I've booted myself with a 600amp welder at 80 volts open circuit current (operating current is about 40 volts) before and am not yet dead

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u/stevecostello Sep 13 '26

Yeah. I was a Navy electrician. I've take hits on everything from 28V (window wipers on the bridge) to when my hands were inside a 30A 440V 3-phase motor controller (that I trusted to be locked out/tagged out). AANnNnDdd I caAAmmEe oUut jUsssT finNneEE!

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u/sebassi Sep 13 '26

Depends if you put them in series or parralel. In paralel it's enough to kill about 400 men. In series it's all the men. 

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u/Vector-storm Sep 13 '26

Hundredths of 1 amp can cause heart palpations and nervous system damage that can lead to death. At 480v common.

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u/Darthbella Sep 13 '26

The lethal level starts at 0.1 Amps so quite a lot of killing power not to mention the risk of arc flash

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u/roger_enright Sep 13 '26

All of them.

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u/maison_deja_vu Sep 13 '26

None, as long as they’re wearing their safety flip-flops!

/s obviously 

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u/tootom Sep 13 '26

I have seen heating water being used to simulate a load during (big - MW sized) generator testing before, in the UK. ( They had a bank of 14 metal containers, with about 1m3 of water in each, and big conductors in each.) Same principle but no one was allowed anywhere near them while the tests were taking place.

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u/musingsofapathy Sep 13 '26

I have seen people do this with 120v wall current to boil around 3 gallons of water. No salt added to the water but the minerals out of the tap made it plenty conductive.

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u/StupidWhiteBastard 24d ago

Probably a safe assumption that the water is actually salt water,

I wondered that too. I reckon though if it was salt water the chlorine produced would prevent anyone standing next to it. They'd be coughting their guts out.

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u/ye3tr 13d ago

12-13A per phase sounds pretty low for a generator like that, no? Could be 120-130A. Not a diesel tech but that engine is hauling ass. Probably about 80kW total @ 220/380V with a little napkin math. Would explain the cable thickness and all

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u/technobrendo Sep 13 '26

So that's why this thing sounds like a turbo diesel engine

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u/The_Ashamed_Boys Sep 13 '26

Don't know the voltage so not sure of hoe much power it actually is. Unless there's a good guess as to the voltage.