Hi all,

So I have been a vegan for around 5 years and an antinatalist for about the same time as well.

I was staunchly angry in the beginning, whereas now I am leaning more nihilistic and also observing that veganism has not taken hold over the world and humankind. I used to see more vegan products available, whereas now I find fewer options are available in the places I frequent and all that.

I was in a psychiatric ward and the only vegan person was me out of around 40 people or so. This was a major reality check for me, cause all these years I had been practicing veganism on my own and never had any obstacles due to practicing it solitarily.

Everything feels aimless at times, and maybe it does, cause veganism + antinatalism seems like the best combination of philosophies that a sapient human being can arrive at.

The EuropeAN 2026 Tour is about to start soon.
The EuropeAN Tour is an activism journey with the goal of trying to initiate grassroots antinatalism activism in Europe. During the tour, antinatalism outreach events will take place in about 20 cities on the span of 23 days, starting from the 3^rd of July.

Here is the general plan with details for each city in the link.

📍 London 3-5 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/1762207091598791

📍 Amsterdam 6-7 July - I will be joining Anonymous for the Voiceless’ “Another Dam Month” campaign. But if you are in Amsterdam and want to do Antinatalism outreach or just meet, please contact me.

📍 Cologne 8 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/1492798945474841

📍 Marburg 9 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/2848046055556107

📍 Stuttgart 10 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/1778406336935450

📍 Mannheim 11 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/1015411517851045

📍 Heidelberg 12 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/846703488205358

📍 Darmstadt 13 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/1683188589471653

📍 Tübingen 14 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/949847124750842

📍 Munich 15 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/1312398170607691

📍 Augsburg 16 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/1004670339024830

📍 Leipzig – 17-18 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/2187194335400177

📍 Wrocław 19 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/1321863936191791

📍 Krakow 20 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/1570302134486926

📍 Lodz 21 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/1041068425277721

📍 Warsaw 22 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/1561158715400028

📍 Poznan 23 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/940789645655933

📍 Berlin 24-26 July - https://www.facebook.com/events/1049717840962909

For more details about the EuropeAN Tour, or to join the journey’s WhatsApp group, please send a message to the following Email: [theeuropeantour2024@gmail.com](mailto:theeuropeantour2024@gmail.com), or send a private message on Facebook to www.facebook.com/ANTNatalism

Outreach events’ location might be affected by outside constraints so it’s really important we’ll be in touch. Please don’t hesitate to contact me.

If I am coming to your city, please join me!

A few years ago, I started writing a book about Veganism, Antinatalism, Efilism, and Promortalism; the arguments for and against each position and the philosophical connections between each philosophy. I got about half way through and got burnt out so it has sat. Recently, I got the idea of starting to work on it again though I am having reservations. I am trying to figure out the usefulness of the book given that these topics are more widely talked about and easier to find online then when I first started so the niceness of having a “one-stop-shop” is there but far less necessary. Additionally, I am trying to figure out the time use effectiveness of working on the book compared to other time spent in “the real world” actively helping others through volunteer work in my local area. It seems like my initial appeal is because of the sunk-cost fallacy of all the previous time I had spent working on it; while the cons are it’s necessary, the range/scope of people who will even read it due to my lack of internet/real world clout, and the alternative cost of not doing active work to help others.

All vegans should be anti-hierarchical

Veganism is the philosophy that seeks to exclude - and ideally eliminate - all forms of exploitation and cruelty to animals. Carnism, the opposite of veganism, is the philosophy that allows for the exploitation and cruelty to animals for any/all/most use functions.

A hierarchical power structure is one in which power (the ability to enact one’s will in the world in relation to self and others) is narrowing to a smaller and smaller group of individuals whose ability to enact their own wills becomes every increasing as one’s position on the structure is increased and visa versa the lower one is on the structure. This increase in the enact of one’s will higher on the structure alongside the decreasing the lower one is allows for those higher up to exploit those lower for the gains of those at the top. This exploitation is established, maintained, and increased by domination - the enforcement of that will to ensure compliance (ie physical violence, social customs, economic suppression, etc).

All vegans are against the exploitation and cruelty to animals because there is the understanding that human animals are not above non-human animals and that this hierarchical power structure of carnism that has been created is incorrect and un-just. If vegans are willing to admit that the hierarchy of carnism is unfounded and unjust then they should also think that all human animal hierarchical power structures (sexism, racism, classism, the State, etc.) are also unfounded and unjust and should be in support of horizontal power structures instead.

Hello everyone, I'm running a little survey to investigate about demographics of veganantinatalists.

Thank you in advance.

Pro-Extinction on Instagram: "Translation of Signs: END OF EXISTENCE | END OF SUFFERING

NO LIFE DESERVES TO BE EXISTENT | NO LIFE DESERVES TO SUFFER

EXISTENCE IS THE CAUSE OF SUFFERING | EXTINCTION IS THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.

Infographic: Next time before telling "existence of life is awesome", [victim of war, disease, predation, etc. etc. suffering], look into their eyes!

Placards: "FUTURE FREE FROM SUFFERING, BEGINS WITH TOTAL EXTINCTION, FOR ALL SENTIENCE"

"ALL ANIMALS NEED NONEXISTENCE TO TRULY BE FREE FROM SLAVERY"

"EXISTENCE OF SUFFERING IS MEANINGLESS, ONLY TOTAL EXTINCTION IS ETHICAL AND RATIONAL"

It's currently trending as a result of the elections. What are your thoughts about it? Can this trend help spread awareness of vegan antinatalism?

I would like some pragmatic thoughts about the future of antinatalism (pardon the irony)

What would be your practical proposals to help antinatalist thought reach critical mass over time?

My first idea is to campaign for antinatalism to be added to national curriculums (usually placed within religious studies), as a means to represent antinatalism as a legitimate viewpoint

Has anyone had any thoughts about how we ensure antinatalism is still considered when our generation is no longer here?

The dark side of parenthood — A necessary critique

antinatalism #ethics #philosophy #budhism #childfree #parents #parenthood #children #vhemt #davidbenatar #betternevertohavebeen

I like to look for new ways to get people to think about antinatalism.

My questions to you are, would this experiment seem evocative or not? And is this flawed to you, and if so, how?

Assumptions

The existence of a limbo or afterlife in the experiment is set up specifically for pronatalists who have a misunderstanding of antinatalism. I.e. preventing existence is the same as killing.

Thought experiment

After you die, before your afterlife, you wait in a pre-afterlife waiting room. When you're seen, before you progress into an afterlife, you are asked if you want to relive one last time. The caveat however is that everyone else in the waiting room has to relive their own life again. All of their lives will be relived regardless of whether it was mostly joy or suffering.

Without knowing the history of others who are in the waiting room. What do you think is the most ethical option?

I like to look for new ways to get people to think about antinatalism.

My questions to you are, would this experiment seem evocative or not? And is this flawed to you, and if so, how?

Assumptions

The existence of a limbo or afterlife in the experiment is set up specifically for pronatalists who have a misunderstanding of antinatalism. I.e. preventing existence is the same as killing.

Thought experiment

After you die, before your afterlife, you wait in a pre-afterlife waiting room. When you're seen, before you progress into an afterlife, you are asked if you want to relive one last time. The caveat however is that everyone else in the waiting room has to relive their own life again. All of their lives will be relived regardless of whether it was mostly joy or suffering.

Without knowing the history of others who are in the waiting room. What do you think is the most ethical option?