r/USACE • u/Forward_Moment_2012 • 10d ago

Building Paperwork :-D

I have seen 3 new policies this year with more to come (at least 2 according to headquarters).

How is the ‘initiative‘ working out for ya?

https://www.army.mil/article/290683/army_announces_building_infrastructure_not_paperwork_initiative

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u/Jaquing-Porneaux 10d ago

Building even more paperwork, and having meetings about meetings . . .

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u/Forward_Moment_2012 9d ago

Those are the best meetings. "Why are we here?'

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u/ErosBro 10d ago

There is more paperwork for us and our contractors and far less is being built.

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u/Dizzy-Elk7097 10d ago

They said concentrate on civil works and minimize non core programs. Does this mean handing over all military design projects to the private sector?

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u/robinhoodoftheworld 10d ago

At first I was naively excited for some changes. There were drawbacks, but if we really had less needless paperwork than at least there were positives too.

That lasted for about 4 months. Now I have more paperwork and milestones and meetings than before and less time to do the actual work.

I think there's a large disconnect between different poles at the HQ and leadership level and it doesn't seem to be getting better.

I don't want to be a pure doom and gloom guy. There are some changes that I like and are a positive. But a lot of them are not as advertised.

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u/Forward_Moment_2012 9d ago

I am finding that no matter what the 'guidance' (DTO, Fragord, Memorandum...) is from HQ, they still find a way to continue with the old ways.

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u/Impressive-Dress-590 Biologist 10d ago

There will never be less paperwork as long as the gate keepers are in the way.

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u/farfanseaweevil 10d ago

Telle is now the Sec. Army and MG Kelly is helping with his transition. So neither of those people are in those spots anymore…sort of.

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u/Accurate_Grocery6532 10d ago

What specific paperwork and meetings were added since BINP came out?

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u/h_town2020 Civil Engineer 9d ago

More meeting with more paperwork to do things that used to didn’t require paperwork.

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u/Dangerous_Present798 6d ago

Check out the Progressive Design Build being promoted on the MILCON side of USACE. Cheaper and faster... ha!