I'm Nogai my tribe is kangly but my haplogroup is Q-B287 it's meant to be yeniseian origin the kets population have it at 94% how rare is it in Turks altogether?

i watched a video about traditional chinese makeup/face painting, and it made me wonder.
most countries have traditional makeup or face painting, for ceremonies, certain events, or maybe as a sign of status.
is this a thing in turkic cultures as well?
id love to learn more! :)

Modern Hungarian individual from Alföld, (Eastern Hungary AKA the hungarian plains/Steppe) Shows significant affinity with the Early-Medieval Magyars. (Conquering Hungarians) At about 15-16% autosomal admixture. The Csongrad-Csanad county in Hungary is characterized by flat, forest-steppes, agriculture and historical significance to the Magyar settlements as it was a hotspot for Elite graves and ornaments found. This is a qpAdm Conquest-Era split for this modern Hungarian individual. This genetic medieval split perfectly represents the Local native population and the Incoming Magyar tribes in the 9th century. The Local population was swiftly assimilated in the Area , but the Magyars did continue to be homogenous for a while before intermixing with the subjects (Local people such as slavs, germanics, balkaners.) Modern Hungarians from this area of Hungary show a higher than baseline autosomal admixture of Conqueror Magyar dna. As the Baseline for north (not north alfold )and West Hungarians typically sit at around 3-8%. (There are exceptions). This individual in this case has 15.5% Conquering Hungarian (Magyar) Admixture and the Rest being the Assimilated local population at 84.5%. This admixture makes them unique and clusters them slightly away from the Carpathian baseline. The Conquering magyars themselves were approximatley 30% Bronze Age Central siberian , 10% Bronze age Mongolic , 10% Excess Hunter Gatherer (koskino boborkinyo), and Overwhelming 50% was sintashta-Andronovo-like. (proto-indo-iranian).

The Hephthalites (also known as the White Huns, Shvetahuna, or by their native name Ebodalo) were a major tribal and political confederation in Central Asia during the 5th and 6th centuries CE.

Origins and Identity

Names: Called White Huns in Western and Indian sources, Haytal in Arabic-persian texts, and Yeta in Chinese chronicles.

Language & Culture: Little is known of their native language. They included both nomadic and settled urban groups, practiced polyandry in some accounts, and adapted elements of Sasanian and Central Asian culture.

The Origin Debate: The Hephthalites (White Huns) were a polyethnic Central Asian confederation whose exact origins remain one of history’s most debated questions, with strong scholarly arguments pointing to a mixed Turkic, Altaic, or East Eurasian ruling core that heavily assimilated into the local Eastern Iranian culture and languages of Bactria and Tokharistan

1. Linguistic Clues in Names and Titles

Even though the Hephthalites adopted Bactrian (an East Iranian language) for official administration and coinage, multiple remnants of Turkic languages are found in their elite naming conventions and state titles:

Theophoric Names: The name of the famous Hephthalite ruler Mihirakula is interpreted by some linguists as a Sanskritized version of the Turkic Mihr-qul (meaning "slave of Mithra/the Sun").

Royal Titles: Elite titles found within Hephthalite contexts—such as Kagan (ruler), Tarqan, and Khatun (queen)—are classic, definitive Turkic socio-political designations. While some argue these could have been borrowed, proponents of the Turkic theory view them as evidence of an underlying Turkic-speaking ruling elite.

1. Connection to Early Turkic Groups (The Gaoju and Rouran)

Proponents of the Turkic origin theory often trace the Hephthalites back to early tribal entities on the Mongolian steppe:

Chinese Chronicles: The Book of Wei and the History of the Northern Dynasties provide early historical clues, noting that the Hephthalites were descendants of the Gaoju (also known as the Tiele). The Gaoju are globally recognized by historians as an early Common Turkic-speaking nomadic group.

The Rouran Vassalage: Before their western migration into Bactria, the Hephthalites (known in early Chinese sources as the Hua) were vassals of the Rouran Khaganate, a powerful proto-Mongolic steppe empire. This places their geographical and cultural ethnogenesis directly in the Altai-Siberian-Mongolian sphere.

Once they settled in Bactria, Sogdiana, and northern India, they adopted local systems. Their official administrative language was Bactrian (an Eastern Iranian language), and their rulers used Iranian names.

Scholars and numismatists frequently highlight this visual continuity to trace the political and cultural transitions in the Hindu Kush and Kabul regions during the 6th to 8th centuries CE

The Turk Shahis did not appear out of thin air; they were a direct political offshoot of the northern Hephthalite structures.

Ciao a tutti!

Mi chiamo Michele Lupoli e sono uno studente all'Università per Stranieri di Siena in Italia. Attualmente sono in Corea del Sud come studente in scambio e sto conducendo una ricerca per la mia tesi sulle comunità Koryoin in Corea del Sud e in paesi come Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Russia e Kyrgyzstan.

La mia ricerca si concentra sul cambiamento linguistico all'interno delle comunità Koryoin, in particolare su come il Koryoma si sia evoluto nel tempo.

Se hai qualche minuto, sarei molto grato se potessi partecipare a questo sondaggio. Se possibile, apprezzerei anche molto se potessi condividere il sondaggio con altri membri della comunità Koryoin.

Il sondaggio consiste in 21 domande, per lo più a scelta multipla, con alcune domande aperte. Ci vogliono solo pochi minuti per completarlo.

Ti ringrazio molto per il tuo tempo e aiuto.

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I suppose you have heard of Bektashi before. The 13th century sufi mystic who influence early Ottomans. And this painting is particulary comes up when you search for him.

Well, something catched my eye: the hat he is seen wearing here. Not only it reminds me of Saraquj, a type of hat usually seen among Turks in pre-mongol invasion, but also Börks that modern day Kazakhs and Kyrgyz consider part of their traditional clothing.

I decided to learn when and where this painting was made. According to wikipedia, this painting dates to 15th century. The artist is unknown, but the painting is kept in Nevşehir.

What interests me is that, typically, artists often depict figures from different timelines/societies looking as they belong to the artist's own people. A prime example of this is Rashid al-din Hamadani. He was a 14th century Persian scholar who lived under the rule of Ilkhanate. In all of his depiction of Seljuks, Ghaznavids and other pre-mongol invasion Turks; he is seen depicting them with literal Mongol garments instead of time period accurate clothing. This happens due to the fact that said artist has never seen the people he is depicting with his own eyes, thus not familiar with them.

So, an Anatolian Turk depicting Bektashi wearing a hat like this means the artists has seen this type of hat before. Does thay mean these type of hats were still in use in Anatolia during 15th century?

I've noticed a thread here about the Kryashens and thought to myself.

What if the majority of Turkic peoples had embraced Christianity (such as Nestorian/Eastern Orthodoxy/Catholicism) instead of Islam, from a historical perspective, how significantly would this have affected us and how others perceive us?

What I mean is that today the islamic world doesn't really embrace turkic peoples. Just like most of our neighbors don't particularly care for us either.

Plus, turkic peoples themselves are so diverse that we're like some kind of mixed hybrid of different origins. Could christianity have done a better job of uniting us or creating our own civilization?

What do you think?

Second calculator doesn’t represent the actual genome it’s just how you can model them , the Kryashens formed from Volga tatars and nogais who converted to Christianity, mixed with Slavs and formed a nation , the biggest groups are in Tatarstan and bashkortostan , they speak a form of the Tatar language , and retained a culture rooted in both orthodox Christian and central Asian Turkic traditions

Greetings to all Turks! Our goal on this page is to get to know other members of our family, stand in solidarity, and be together—just like in the old days.

''O Turk! Unless the blue sky collapses from above and the dark earth gives way from below, who can destroy your state and your traditions? - Orkhon inscriptions''

Let’s consider the regions inhabited by Turkmens, as well as the Turkic peoples in Siberia and the Altai Mountains.

Some of us are Muslim, some Christian, and perhaps some are Shamanist. Yet, all of us—to varying degrees—can find our way from Gagauzia to Anatolia, and from there to the Altai and Urmia, simply by speaking a Turkic language.

Let’s get to know one another

Note: I am open to any suggestions. This is my first time creating a page on Reddit, so I apologize for any mistakes.

And my DMs are open! (r/TurkicFamilyTree )