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Hated Tropes An adaptation completely botches the original theme and message

Mulan(2020)-They give Mulan superpowers which is not only lame it goes against the message of the original about equality and struggle,plus they removes Shang because apparently having Mulan date her superior was "problematic" even though Shang genuienely respected Mulan and their rank was never brought up

I am Legend(2007)-You know why the story is called "I am legend"? SPOILER ALERT the protagonist is the actual monster,humanity is gone and the vampires have a actual society and the protagonist kills and terrorize them

Animal Farm(2026)-On the very slim chance that Andy Serkis ever sees this,here's the thing Andy,Animal Farm was not a children work it was not supposed to have a happy ending,you never heard of cautionary tales before?

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u/foxfire981 8d ago

Leaving a full ride scholarship for a partial scholarship because "Hawaiians don't know what Marine Biology is." That movie was so racist.

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u/NaCl-And-C12H22O11 8d ago

I would imagine that Hawaii is actually the best place to study marine biology, because you know... HAWAII IS SURROUNDED BY THE VAST OCEAN, also native Hawaiians get a good tuition deal, fucking take up that amazing damn deal and stay in Hawaii with your sister!

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u/Bamzooki1 8d ago

People go to Hawaii to learn marine biology. It's the world's best program. Nani didn't even need to leave. She could've lived at home with Lilo and commuted to uni.

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u/First_Foundationeer 7d ago edited 7d ago

No.. it's not the best.

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All right, you pasty folks really like to imagine things look good on the islands like when y'all fly over for a sweet little summer vacay.

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u/Kylel0519 7d ago edited 7d ago

Still better than San Diego, would’ve maybe made sense if they went for Santa Barbra, CA (the actual like #2/#3 school in the U.S. for marine Biology) instead of Hawaii, but no she went to a college know for bioengineering and STEM?

Edit: damn your comment became racist FAST

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u/Amy_Chure 8d ago

All while missing the undertones about how touristized Hawaii and how that effects the native population for "hey look at how fun theme parks are"....

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u/muqrxo 8d ago

You’re never gonna believe where UCSD is

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u/Frost-Folk 8d ago

Only water on one side, half as good

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u/Hungry-Remove-9892 8d ago

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u/Bamzooki1 8d ago

Why would do Man dessicate the oceans? Is he stupid?

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u/bluedituser 7d ago

Nahh he’s fighting AquaMan. Destroy the Aqua and then it will be a fair Man v Man fight

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u/NewAudience6075 8d ago

And where is this not the case?

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u/TurnoverStrict6814 8d ago

I have a degree from the University of Hawaiʻi and I was born and raised here on the Big Island. There are better marine science programs out there for sure, especially depending on what your area of interest is.
I think it’s actually more important to get out of here and expand your horizons a bit than staying here your whole life.

Granted this is a real world take, not the hot garbage that was the live action Lilo and Stitch.

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u/anono227 7d ago

Speaking as someone who has a cousin who moved to Hawaii, it is. He went to study, got his Phd, and now works in Marine Biology. Still in Hawaii. 

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u/Severedeye 7d ago

But you have to remember that to a certain group of people California is the center of the universe so the school had to be there.

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u/BipedalHorseArt 7d ago

Yea, but you need land for laboratories and libraries and Hawai'i doesn't have enough of that. /s

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u/First_Foundationeer 7d ago

It isn't. People who don't live here night imagine that because of the pictures, but pictures ain't academic strength. But it's great if you want to surf and be in the ocean. 

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u/lePROprocrastinator 8d ago

I dont even wanna know the entire movie beyond memes

Im not even gonna larp it

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u/LaLloronaVT 8d ago

Honestly the original animated movie, sequel movies, and the series, are all pretty solid. At its worst the series is just fine but I never felt like it had a dog shit moment. It really felt like one of those series that ended good and didn’t need to be continued or remade.

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u/Dragonfang65 8d ago

There is no Lilo and Stich (2025) in Ba Sing Sae. Same with no The Last Airbender or Promised Neverland. None of these exist in Ba Sing Sae.

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u/Bamzooki1 8d ago

Incidentally, neither does the quote "There is no war in Ba Sing Se." It's a mandela effect

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u/Nick_Wild1Ear 7d ago

S2E13 22:16 City Of Walls and Secrets The Dai Lee tell Jet, “There is no war in Ba Sing Se. There is no war within the walls. Here we are safe. Here we are free.”

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u/Bamzooki1 7d ago

Oh damn, the Mandela effect might be a Mandela effect

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u/Funkycoldmedici 8d ago

The meme stuff is straight up lies, though.

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u/Zephronias 8d ago

They stopped my pal Pleakley from crossdressing, the cowards.

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u/Ektar91 8d ago

How

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u/Funkycoldmedici 7d ago

All the ‘Nani abandons Lilo to the foster system to fuck off to a lesser university instead of the better one that she gets for free’ is just not in the movie. The whole movie makes a point of the ohana idea with their neighbor they’ve known and been extended family with their entire lives. Nani doesn’t have free college available in Hawaii, that’s just not a thing. She does have a full-ride scholarship to UC, and it is a higher rated marine biology school than UH. Being an island doesn’t automatically make it a better school. The UH campus isn’t even near where Nani and Lilo live, it’s an hour+ flight away on another island, not a convenient commute.

So the movie ends with Lilo and Nani realizing having this bigger family, Nani getting to pursue her dreams for free, and she has an alien portal gun, so she is still in Lilo’s room with her any time she wants. Everybody wins. Don’t get into from memes.

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u/DuelaDent52 8d ago

Huh? You’ve got it backwards. She HAS a full ride scholarship to UCSD. The gag of mispronouncing marine biology is across two characters, one of whom is elderly and the other is like six.

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u/foxfire981 8d ago

Native Hawaiians are provided full ride scholarships to University of Hawaii. In other words she's already given the option, since she lives on the same island as the university, to basically just go to school without losing her home or giving up her sister.

And the UC scholarship still will not cover travel costs and basically any other expenses than the Uni. So basically the movie is claiming the only way for her to get the education that are wants is to go to the mainland.

And other than the "college educated social worker" everyone else acts like they've never heard of it if a native Hawaiian.

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u/Benoit_Holmes 8d ago

This isn't accurate. There are scholarships for native Hawaiians but they are not all full ride, and full ride scholarships cover things like room and board and sometimes have things like a living stipend (though the movie never specifies).

Also she does not live on the same island as the university. She lives on Kauaʻi which only has a community college. The University of Hawaiʻi is located on O'ahu.

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u/TurnoverStrict6814 8d ago

This isn’t true. At all. Financial aid and scholarships specifically for kanaka exist, but it’s not just provided.

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u/captainfalcon200523 8d ago

To be 100% fair, she does have a magic portal gun. But also this whole movie, the movie that was made to say “Tourists are a bunch of shit bags and should leave Hawaii alone”, was all an ad for Alani.

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u/TrioOfTerrors 8d ago

And UCSD has the Scripps Institute which is considered one of the premier marine biology centers in the world.

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u/LazyEights 8d ago

This is really one of the things that they shouldn't have expected audiences to know but you're absolutely right.

Whatever your opinions on Nani giving up custody of Lilo while she went to school, the notion that there's no reason for her to leave Hawaii to study marine biology just isn't factually correct.

She wants to leave Hawaii because UCSD has a better marine biology program than any school in Hawaii.

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u/TrioOfTerrors 8d ago

I agree. 4 or 5 lines of dialog about how Scripps had been her dream since before their parents died and she had sacrificed that to take care of Lilo and suddenly the custody thing combined with the portal for instant visits whenever makes much more sense.

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u/TheLordOfAwesome2 8d ago

It's the kind of racism that clearly comes from a place that is oblivious to the fact it is racist.

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u/King_WhatsHisName 7d ago

Leaving a full ride scholarship in Hawaii - which allows you to study marine biology with both tuition and residency absolutely free if you belong to a natively Hawaiian people (which Nani does) - for a lesser scholarship in California across the Pacific Ocean, where a massive body of water will separate you from your sister whom in the original movie you fought tooth and nail to keep from being taken away by CPS

Thank you Disney, very cool

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u/Funkycoldmedici 8d ago

She has a full ride scholarship to UC San Diego. There’s literally nothing in it like “Hawaiians don’t know what marine biology is.” Making shit up isn’t necessary.

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u/Greydragon38 8d ago

Wait that was a point actually made in that abomination of a remake?!?